Thoughts on the Spanish Language

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Que?

glennmagusharvey

glennmagusharvey wrote: »

Shark, California

Then again, to be fair, it's not that English speakers don't know Spanish. Because, even in English, we have the town of Wall, famous for Wall Drug.

Stormtroper

glennmagusharvey

heh, she has a point

also

buénosu días

me chamo Korone

estudío español

grashias

Stormtroper

I find it odd that one of the things she pronounces wrong is her own avatar's name, given that it's almost the same as in Japanese.

glennmagusharvey

ahora que ya no estoy escuchando el vídeo en un dispositivo movíl en la cama

SUPÉEEEEINGOL

HONA

SOY COLONE

ME CHAMO COLONE, ¡YEEY!

¿ESTO DÍO ESPAÑOL?

¿STD ESTI DÍO ESPAÑOL?

y luego, inglés gratuito

Stormtroper

tbh I'm always reluctant to mock the pronunciation of learners. It makes me image myself getting mocked over mine.
(Also, supeingo (スペイン語) is correct Japanese.)

glennmagusharvey

Heh, I guess you're right.

But yeah, I definitely agree with her that Spanish phonology is more consistent and easier to learn than English phonology.

Stormtroper

Mis reversos.

glennmagusharvey

Is this a meme among Spanish-speakers?

Stormtroper

Not as far as I'm aware, I just heard about it yesterday.

Stormtroper

If this were in English I'd post it in the videos thread:

glennmagusharvey

¿Cuál es la diferencia entre "un fuego" y "un incendio"?

Stormtroper

Un incendio es específicamente una calamidad en la que cosas que no se deberían estar quemando se están quemando, lo que en inglés sería "fire outbreak", en cambio uno puede referirse a una fogata o antorcha como "un fuego".

glennmagusharvey

The dish was reportedly created at the Lincoln Grill restaurants in Hilo, Hawaii, in 1949 by its proprietors, Richard Inouye and his wife Nancy, at the request of teenagers from the Lincoln Wreckers Sports club seeking something that differed from a sandwich, was inexpensive, and yet could be quickly prepared and served. They asked Nancy to put some rice in a bowl, a hamburger patty over the rice, and then top it with brown gravy. The egg came later. The teenagers named the dish Loco Moco after one of their members, George Okimoto, whose nickname was "Crazy". George Takahashi, who was studying Spanish at Hilo High School, suggested using Loco, which is Spanish for crazy. They tacked on "moco" which "rhymed with loco and sounded good".[1][2][3] To Spanish-speakers, however, the name can sound very odd, given that they hear it as "crazy snot" (moco is Spanish for "mucus").[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loco_moco

glennmagusharvey

This is Spanish, isn't it?

(timestamp: 3:13)

Stormtroper

It is. "¿Qué está pasando con el corral/los alcaldes/los consejales/el presidente Zapatero?"
Also: lol

Stormtroper

TIL about the terminology variety in what's called "lima" and what's called "lemon" (edit: rather, "limón"), as well as that in English "lemons" are strictly the yellow ones.
I knew that Danganronpa puzzle felt too oddly ambiguous.

glennmagusharvey

We call the green ones "limes". Wiktionary says that "lima" in Spanish can mean "lime" or (dialectally) "lemon" in English, and indicates that "limón" in Mexican Spanish also means "lime".

When I look up "limón", Wiktionary says that it means lemon, and is synonymous with "citrón" in this regard, while "citrón" is defined as either "lemon" or "citron" in English, while a "citron" in English refers to a very different fruit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citron

For reference, this is what English wikipedia shows as the general species name for each of these terms:
* lemon: Citrus limon - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon
* lime: multiple species - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lime_(fruit) - the most common variety is the Persian lime, Citrus x latifolia, which is a hybrid between a Key lime and a lemon. In turn, the Key lime, Citrus x aurantifolia, is a hybrid between the small-flowered papeda/small-fruited papeda/biasong/samuyao, Citrus micrantha, and the citron (see below).
* citron: Citrus medica - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citron

In short, the Citrus genre is hybridized to hell and back, and tracing genetic lineages is a mess. The fact that languages confuse them is probably a side effect of this.

Stormtroper

I've heard about the distinction, but I've never seen anybody irl calling both of them anything but "limón"*, the green ones being the overwhelming majority. Also in a bunch of places the green ones are "limones" and the yellow ones are "limas". Though theoretically whichever is larger should be "limones".
*Edit: Except when mentioning the flavor "lima y limón".

fourteenwings

So I was wading through the vast expanses of Music YouTube when I came across a song title that made me think "Isn't 'P***' Spanish for idiot or something" and then I Google-Translated the whole title and went a bit woozy.



As somebody who is extremely prudish about swearing, it particularly struck me how not knowing any Spanish made this whole thing sounds vaguely wholesome, like early 2000s teen pop.

Basically it's the perfect set-up for a joke about a worldly guy who prides himself on listening to too much music showing off this song to a friend who can speak Spanish.

glennmagusharvey

Que sera sera

I looked at this and thought it doesn't feel right in Spanish, beyond just missing accent marks, based on what I understand about how Latin and Spanish grammar work. Wikipedia confirms it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Que_Sera,_Sera_(Whatever_Will_Be,_Will_Be)

So, what might it be in proper Spanish? Would it be this?

"Pasará lo que pasará"

Stormtroper

Ahmaigah vTubers speaking Spanish badly is better than how I hoped it'd be. I might follow her, the accidental threatening tone is convincing.
And I just realized I never answered the above.

So, what might it be in proper Spanish? Would it be this?

"Pasará lo que pasará"

I hadn't realized those lyrics aren't how I remembered.
Yeah, that works. For a more literal back-translation, "lo que será, será" also works, or very literally, "lo que sea que será, será".

glennmagusharvey

Someone people dubbed at least the first seven episodes of Angel Beats into Spanish.

On a whim I looked up "latidos de angel" and I ran across this.

Stormtroper

Not so much about Spanish than about language learning videos, but:

Stormtroper

glennmagusharvey

Si alguien dice "los tres golpes", ¿qué sabes lo que significa?

(If someone says "los tres golpes", what do you think they mean?)

Stormtroper

Other than literally meaning "the three hits/strikes/coups", no. Is it a specific event? (Or three?)

glennmagusharvey

Aparece ser un plato de la República Dominicana, una combinación con "mangú":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangú

...así como el nombre de una danza cubana por Ignacio Cervantes:

Stormtroper

Ah.
I vaguely remember hearing about the dish once. Not the music tho.