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Magic: The Gathering

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Comments

  • a little muffled

    It's boring. Card is probably good, but the original Ghost Council was interesting and tricky, and this one isn't.

  • Oh man, blue-black Lord of Extinction and a Gideon that could plausibly kill all the eldrazi by himself.

  • Clan Defiance is awesome! X damage to both a creature and its controller for XRG is great as-is, but the potential to do it to another creature as well is what cements it.


    The only real problem with it is that it has to compete with Bonfire in a Standard environment.

  • You can change. You can.

    I saw the spoilers.


    I am an excited person.

  • edited 2013-01-02 10:39:52
    Has friends besides tanks now

    . . . At least Gideon can't take out Obzedat. 8)


    I think he's a boring as hell card, but that semi-dependence on the opponent's field (to be fair, if they don't have anything, he's still a 4/4 for 2WW) probably just makes him a good sideboard card. I guess it depends on what decks are running around? (Standard chat again; don't know what Modern decks he fits into, and I only sorta care for Legacy, and not at all for Vintage)

  • The frustrating thing is that he doesn't have any impact the turn he comes into play. His +1 can toughen him up, but if they have enough creatures that it does so significantly, it seems more likely he'll end up as an expensive and ineffective fog.


    But: style points.

  • Has friends besides tanks now
    At least the Dimir cards are really cool.
  • Also, Biovisionary, because we need more alternative win conditions that involve cloning.

  • You can change. You can.

    Biovisionary + Cackling Counterpart + Populate = Standard just got new combos baby

  • a little muffled
    Or just Infinite Reflection + mana dorks.
  • Copy that.

  • Has friends besides tanks now

    I already love this set so much more than RTR.

  • a little muffled

    > better than rtr
    > doesn't have filibuster counters

  • edited 2013-01-02 14:20:56
    Has friends besides tanks now

    Those are pretty good, as is Dracogenius, but I'd rather win with cloning than congress. Plus, Gatecrash has Dimir, Orzhov, Gruul, and Simic.

  • a little muffled

    yes but


    izzet


    (also azorius)

  • ^^ tUMUt

  • Has friends besides tanks now

    also azorius



    booooooooooooo


    I'll give you Izzet, though.

  • Simic >= Your favourite guild

  • a little muffled

    I can accept greater or equal.

  • But you never had any to begin with.

    Biovisionary + Mirrorweave. Game, Set, Match.

  • edited 2013-01-02 16:16:46
    a little muffled

    Unless your opponent has four creatures too, in which case their trigger resolves first.

  • But you never had any to begin with.

    Hence why you cast it on your opponent's turn.

  • edited 2013-01-02 17:07:56
    a little muffled

    I suppose, but that gives them an extra untap and draw between your casting Visionary and winning.

  • Has friends besides tanks now


    +1

  • edited 2013-01-02 18:46:30
    smote

    Heh. That needs to be played right after someone uses Azorius Charm's lifelink effect.

  • a little muffled
    Alternatively, in response to Thragtusk.
  • edited 2013-01-02 18:52:06
    smote

    Well yeah, but I meant for the flavor. 


    Speaking of which, I just noticed the flavor text of this printing of Watery Grave has Ral Zarek on it. It's about time.

  • a little muffled
    Oh, true. Didn't see that.



    Responding to Tusk just makes me happy because it's reminiscent of the days of Flames of the Blood Hand vs Loxodon Hierarch battles.
  • Has friends besides tanks now
    It also downgrades Sphinx's Revelation quite well.
  • You can change. You can.

    Or just Infinite Reflection + mana dorks.



    I forgot Infinite Reflection was a thing. 

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