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Zetta Ryouiki is getting fixed

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  • You can change. You can.
    Eh, even if it has a reason, it doesn't mean that it still is funny or some shit.
  • Inside, too dark to read
    I find it hilarious that most literary works don't have an Analysis page, but Zeta Reticuli does.

    I feel like binge rereading the great narrative poems and editing their pages with actual literary analysis.

    Should I go for it, or is it too late to save TV Tropes?
  • You can change. You can.
    Do it and see where it takes you.

    I'll watch and document it for future lulz generations.
  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    ^^Do it and post links on the Special Efforts thread I started.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    I don't notice any distinctiveness about girls wearing skirts and socks and how much skin they show between them.  At all.

    I declare that I win.

    ----

    Also, don't turn this thread into drama importing/exporting.
  • Inside, too dark to read
    ^ Schoolgirls Wear Socks is about as distinctive as People Sit On Chairs.

    But because it's Schoolgirls, it's a Japanese fetish, while People Sit On Chairs is not. And because it's a Japanese fetish, TV Tropes must have a lovingly-detailed page for it.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    No, TV Tropes is not a fetish wiki.

    However, TV Tropes is a media device wiki, so if creators are purposely making use of schoolgirls wearing socks and skirts in certain ways as a creative device, it would be trope-able.

    That said, I don't think this is a particularly useful page for TV Tropes.  But we DO have porn tropes, so why not fanservice tropes.
  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    As I said before, I consider it a trope, but people pay far, far more attention to it than they should.
  • Should I go for it, or is it too late to save TV Tropes?

    It has always been too late, since the day TV Tropes was created.
  • They also pointed out that SA often uses hyperbole for humor.

    Humor or not, hyperbole or not, lots and lots of posts from that thread imply that tropers in general suck without implying that TV Tropes suck or why.
  • Electric Boogaloo
    Actually, most of that thread focuses on the "why" of it.

    And the reason it implies that tropers suck without TV Tropes sucking is because the general consensus on that thread is that Tv Tropes could have been a pretty good idea if it wasn't ruined by its community.
  • > However, TV Tropes is a media device wiki, so if creators are purposely
    making use of schoolgirls wearing socks and skirts in certain ways as a
    creative device, it would be trope-able.

    The evidence that they do is pretty scant.
  • edited 2011-08-05 20:46:58
    >However, TV Tropes is a media device wiki, so if creators are purposely
    making use of schoolgirls wearing socks and skirts in certain ways as a
    creative device, it would be trope-able.

    And then it would further have to be proven that they have a complicated and in-depth grading system applied to socks, and that there's an actual value to mentioning any of this shit.

    This was honestly one of the things that convinced me that TvTropes was a lost cause.

  • Apparently, the grading system was something some otaku blogger came up with a couple years ago. It appears to show up on a few blogs and TV Tropes; the -boorus do not use it, and nobody else does to my knowledge.

    In fact, quick Google searches for "zettai ryouiki" and "zettai ryouiki grade" bring up 743,000 results, and 9,460 results, respectively. TV Tropes is the first result for the former, and the third result for the latter.

    So, basically, TV Tropes is the biggest of the (few) places on the internet where the grading system even shows up.
  • edited 2011-08-05 20:55:30
    Actually, most of that thread focuses on the "why" of it.

    Didn't claim otherwise, but saying that it doesn't say anything about the general population of tropers is just wrong.

    And the reason it implies that tropers suck without TV Tropes sucking is
    because the general consensus on that thread is that Tv Tropes could
    have been a pretty good idea if it wasn't ruined by its community.

    I agree, but that goes against what the quoted post is saying.

    ^^^ Yes, a company even tried to trademark it. Wikipedia has info on it. Yes, Wikipedia has an article on Zettai Ryouiki.
  • When in Turkey, ROCK THE FUCK OUT
    And then there are people that use this trope to drool over an underage Nick actor on the main page.
  • edited 2011-08-05 20:56:54
    ...
    @Stormtroper: They do? It's not coming up when you search for it...

    @GLORIOUSLeader: I understand now. When that one delightful fellow accused me of wanting to rape the trope, it was projection.
  • When in Turkey, ROCK THE FUCK OUT
    I deleted it quite a while ago, so it doesn't show up in the page history, but on the iCarly page they put it there and had a description that even linked to Fetish Fuel. It was disturbing, to say the least. 
  • ^^^ Not in English, however.

    There's a German article on it that conveniently turns out somewhat coherent on Google Translate.
  • Hmmmmmmmm.

    ...

    ...What do those two banners at the top of the Japanese language one say? Also, neither of them appear to use the grading system.
  • edited 2011-08-05 21:18:02
    • This article contains important matters were discussed in the notes. To avoid edit wars, please check the notes before editing this article.

    • Written sources such as electronic bulletin boards and personal sites and a description of the individual authors who witnessed the event, including statements based on assumptions of the individual authors and emotions will not meet the verifiability and original research.

    A quick Google image search in Japanese doesn't turn out anything about a table except this:

    http://cdn-ak.f.st-hatena.com/images/fotolife/r/rawlow/20051204/20051204014236.gif

    For the record, the searches were for 絶対領域 (Zettai Ryouiki) plus グラフ (Graph), テーブル (Table) and 表 (Chart, table, list, etc.)

    Edit: Ninjaed.
  • Inside, too dark to read
    So TV Tropes is one of the few, and by far the largest, place where otaku get this sleazy about sock fetishism?

    Hahaha oh God I'm sad now.
  • edited 2011-08-06 00:05:09
    No, it's just one of few places where people copy content from a probably-not-entirely-serious blog post about socks.  Other places might be full of sleazy sock fetishists, but they do it without copypasta'ing other people's blogs.
  • Inside, too dark to read
    ^ My bad. Tropers are sock fetish plagiarists. From an obscure blog.
  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    I thought it was because Miku fuckin' loves Bacon-wrapped hot dogs!


  • Electric Boogaloo

    Zettai Ryouiki is the only reason Hatsune Miku is so popular.

    If the most notable/successful thing about a work is sock-length, I think that says more about the quality of the work than the relevance of socks.
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