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Who Would Win General Discussion

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  • edited 2012-12-16 10:56:50

    Pokemon is full of violations of known physics, and you still have trouble with believing that a kid can control omnipotent forces of nature



    There's a difference between realism and verisimilitude. To not alex a lot about it, physics breaking affects the former, while the kids thing affects the latter, and it is usually the latter which makes us accept or reject a story/setting/concept. Or, as someone put it more eloquently, "It is easier to accept the impossible likely than the possible unlikely".

  • Definitely not gay.

    Look dude, kids controlling powerful forces of nature is the entire point of the game. If you can't accept that...well, I have nothing more to say.


  • Look dude, kids controlling powerful forces of nature is the entire point of the game



    I thought it was more about flashy cockfighting, but hey, opinions.

  • Definitely not gay.

    The two are not mutually exclusive by any means


    And no, it really isn't about opinion. The game is objectively about a kid who controls magic animals.


  • The game is objectively about a kid who controls magic animals.



    There's a difference between "magic animals" and "omnipotent forces of nature"

  • Definitely not gay.

    But the former can include the latter.

  • Dio Brando vs Albert Wesker.


     


    This is Part 1 Dio vs RE5 Wesker, because The World is overpowered and would let Dio win easily.

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    But the former can include the latter.



    Yes, but the two cause different expectations among players.

  • You can change. You can.

    Maaaaaan


    how many threads have turned into analysing pokemon lately

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    Two. This being the second.

  • Definitely not gay.

    Yes, but the two cause different expectations among players.



    How so?


    Magic is about doing things that violate the laws of conventional science. It is not that big a stretch to include omnipotence: it is simply a matter of degree.


    And animals are undeniably forces of nature.

  • You can change. You can.

    And animals are undeniably forces of nature.



    A force of nature is a natural phenomenon humans can't control.


    If pokemons were a force of nature, the premise of the game would be wholly invalidated.

  • Definitely not gay.

    Well anyways, it's really ludicrous to be bugged about something that's the entire freaking premise.


    I mean I agree that Pokemon would make a good deal more sense if the Pokemon weren't as powerful as the 'dex and lore bits say they are, but they are and it's stupid not to be OK with that.

  • I'm a damn twisted person

    Scott Free vs GLADoS and the entire testing facility. 

  • Definitely not gay.

    Well anyways:


    Magus (pre-Ocean Palace) vs Kefka (pre-godhood)

  • You can change. You can.

    Well anyways, it's really ludicrous to be bugged about something that's the entire freaking premise.



    "Bella loves an abusive vampire". Boom.

  • Definitely not gay.

    You can just not read Twilight, in the same way as you can just not play Pokemon.


    And if you read Twilight for bile fascination, you really have no right to complain about how disgusting the premise is.

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    That doesn't make it ludicrous to be bugged by it.

  • You can change. You can.

    - sigh -


    Look, just because you don't play Pokemon or read Twilight doesn't mean that their flaws are going to stop being present.


    Regardless of why you read Twilight, you always have the right to complain about your issues with it. There's no such thing as "No right to complain" when it comes to media unless the complaint itself is unfounded. And none of the complaints here are except yours right now.

  • Definitely not gay.

    Augh, maybe we got sidetracked a bit.


    The point I'm trying to make is that it's rather sad that Noimporta's suspension of disbelief has been broken by how kids can apparently control things more dangerous than guns and cars. While I could get behind that if Pokemon was a more realistic series, the premise of Pokemon needs to run on several unspoken agreements. One of these unspoken agreements is that (how many times does this have to be said?) kids can control Pokemon, which are dangerous. 


    I'm just annoyed that suspension of disbelief has been broken when logically it shouldn't have been.

  • I'm a damn twisted person

    So right, the Scott Free vs GLaDOS probably requires some caveats. I mean if he has the Mother Box with him, it's basically another Tuesday for him. Well then again, the Mother Box works to the point that it will service the plot more than an explicit I Win Button.


     


    Granted, Scott is an out and out physical god, so really he could plow through the testing center no problem. On the otherhand, Shilo Norman with the motherboxxx or a portal gun is a more fair toss up.


    (okay it isn't. He escaped from a black hole and death)

  • Definitely not gay.

    My knowledge on Scott Free is limited, and while I know lots about GLADoS and her merry crew I can't comment.

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    The point I'm trying to make is that it's rather sad that Noimporta's suspension of disbelief has been broken by how kids can apparently control things more dangerous than guns and cars.



    It's no more sillier than people being bugged by the fact that Superman's entire disguise is a pair of glasses.

  • Definitely not gay.

    I'm not so sure if that was an unspoken agreement in the first place. :/

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    It is.


    As Noimporta pointed out earlier, I urge you to go read up on the concept of narrative verisimilitude. That is where this problem stems from.

  • edited 2012-12-16 11:56:46
    Definitely not gay.

    But yeah I see where you're coming from. It really is confusing how people can accept that Superman can lug around cars and shoot fire from his eyes but bitch about how his Clark Kent getup is just a suit and a nice pair of specs.


    ^ Ninja'd

  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    You can just not read Twilight



    Twilight is an explicit attempt to teach an entire generation of girls a few lessons:



    • If you're in an abusive relationship, it just means the guy really loves you.

    • Your only worthwhile traits as a female are virginity before marriage and childbearing afterwards.


    And based on its sales, it appears to be succeeding. I'd say people who don't read it have every right to hate it.

  • Definitely not gay.

    Hey Alkthash, can you at least post a list of Scott Free's known feats so I have something to work with?

  • I'm a damn twisted person

    Neh, whenever we talk superhero shit, just fire up wikipedia.


     


    Oooh, I know. The Lord Ruler from Mistborn vs Doctor Doom. Or Magneto. Or the Avengers (lets go with movie line up for sake of convenience). 

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    The Lord Ruler, for the first two. Probably the Avengers otherwise.

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