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Who Would Win General Discussion

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  • edited 2012-12-16 07:24:36
    Definitely not gay.

    aw no-one answered me


    Anyways, who would win: Gandalf or Tanatos from Secret of Mana

  • The thing is that Gandalf hasn't shown any sorcerous abilities save longevity, setting things on fire with his mind, great flashes of light, and the supernatural force of his will and voice. Gandalf's magic was the length and breadth of his knowledge of people, places, history, his wisdom, and his legion of well-earned allies.


    Whereas Thanatos seems to be a demigodlike Last Boss, capable of stealing life and mind control. 


    But then you also have to consider that Gandalf is a Maiar of Valinor, an angel of power in human form. And given his abilities as a fireworks-maker and his habit of stowing loads of the things in his robes, he might just be able to blind Thanatos and hit him over the head with his stick over and over.

  • edited 2012-12-16 08:10:06
    Definitely not gay.

    Gandalf beat a fire-demon once


    Also thanatos is the penultimate boss

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    I don't think Gandalf's powers work in a way that would significantly aid him here.

  • Oh yeah, he did that.


    But he did it off-camera and died and changed color so I'm not counting it.

  • Ridi, Pagliaccio, sul tuo amore infranto!

    All of IJBM vs Alex.

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    Several people here know things besides swords. I'm assuming any of the people here who know how to use bows would win, assuming Alex doesn't be a coward and sneak up on us from behind >:(

  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!

    Not to mention pure numbers would overtake him. Life ain't a vidya.


    Harry Dresden Vs. Dante, Son of Sparda.

  • Which Harry? Because Harry is crazy powerful now.
  • Kichigai birthday!!
    Also Platinum brawl Dante vs Amaterasu vs Bayonetta vs Viewtiful Joe vs Gene vs Jack
  • Ridi, Pagliaccio, sul tuo amore infranto!

    I only know the fighting styles and abilities of a few characters there. I know Bayonetta would be Dante, and probably Amaterasu and maaaaybe Viewtiful Joe.


  • Lions vs. the gods of Time, Space, Antimatter, and Creation doesn't seem a very fair matchup.



    If they can be put into small balls and bossed around by children, these gods don't seem particularly tough.

  • edited 2012-12-16 09:17:03
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!

    Hideki Kamiya has canonically said Bayonetta would beat Dante, so Bayonetta beats Dante.


    Even if you don't like word of god stuff, Dante's never done anything on the power level of kicking a god from pluto to the sun.

  • Ridi, Pagliaccio, sul tuo amore infranto!

    ^ Exactly my logic. Both the word of god, and just seeing what she does in the game.


    And since Amaterasu is a God, Bayonetta would beat her.

  • Definitely not gay.

    If they can be put into small balls and bossed around by children, these gods don't seem particularly tough.



    A Pokemon that is too powerful for a Trainer will explicitly not obey it.


    And that still doesn't change the fact that an army about two times the size of the Spartan army of magical animals would rip apart a million lions.

  • Ridi, Pagliaccio, sul tuo amore infranto!

    Fine, a TRILLION lions :p

  • Definitely not gay.

    It's not even a question of numbers. When you've got flyers like Thundurus and Zapdos, the lions won't even be able to touch you.

  • Ridi, Pagliaccio, sul tuo amore infranto!

    It would be really fun to watch though.


  • A Pokemon that is too powerful for a Trainer will explicitly not obey it.



    Yet a ten year old is eventually capable of commanding any pokemon. Still, further analysis of the pokemon franchise is the way to madness.

  • Anyway, if we're speaking of Dresden as of Cold Days, Harry and Dante are a pretty even match.



    The differences are that where Harry has variety in attacks with evocation, Soulfire, and a Fae Court Mantle, Dante has the legendary endurance that all spectacle fighters do.
  • edited 2012-12-16 10:04:41
    But you never had any to begin with.

    These are the same children who are the best trainers in their region.

  • edited 2012-12-16 10:17:37
    Ridi, Pagliaccio, sul tuo amore infranto!

    Yeah, I've never seen a Cooltrainer Male with a fucking Zapdos.


    It is canonical that all the player characters are the best of the best that their region has to offer. Red being the best of the best of the best. And Gold and Kris are better than that!


    Actually, there is evidence supporting that the player characters of Pokemon B and W 2 are the strongest trainers ever.

  • edited 2012-12-16 10:23:35

    These are the same children who are the best trainers in their region.



    They are still ostensibly children. You know, the little buggers we (rightfully) try to let nowhere near the steering wheel of a car, guns and weapons of mass destruction.


    In general, the whole concept of Pokemon falls apart if you accept the premise that Pokemon are all that strong, but the games have pushed further in that direction with each gen.

  • Ridi, Pagliaccio, sul tuo amore infranto!

    You just aren't FRIENDS with your Pokemon, Noimporta. You just use them for battle.

  • Wait, that means that...


     


    ... Oh, god, the Pokemon universe is pro-reg.

  • Ridi, Pagliaccio, sul tuo amore infranto!

    Oh god, extremely.


    Pokemon League? Gym Leaders? Trainer ID? Against Stolen Pokemon and Team Rocket who are unauthorized trainers?

  • Definitely not gay.

    They are still ostensibly children. You know, the little buggers we (rightfully) try to let nowhere near the steering wheel of a car, guns and weapons of mass destruction



    The suspension of disbelief is weak with this one.



  • Oh god, extremely.


    Pokemon League? Gym Leaders? Trainer ID? Against Stolen Pokemon and Team Rocket who are unauthorized trainers?



    Isn't there also an ID for each specific Pokemon? And whatever mind control trickery the pokeballs are about... it's like those collar thingies from X-men.



    The suspension of disbelief is weak with this one.



    Well, I have no problem when actually playing the game. But it's just that the world-building would work much better if the pokemon weren't as strong as they're generally assumed to be.


  • edited 2012-12-16 10:39:33
    That's because the weight of bullshit is too heavy.
  • Definitely not gay.

    Pokemon is full of violations of known physics, and you still have trouble with believing that a kid can control omnipotent forces of nature

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