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Who Would Win General Discussion
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aw no-one answered me
Anyways, who would win: Gandalf or Tanatos from Secret of Mana
The thing is that Gandalf hasn't shown any sorcerous abilities save longevity, setting things on fire with his mind, great flashes of light, and the supernatural force of his will and voice. Gandalf's magic was the length and breadth of his knowledge of people, places, history, his wisdom, and his legion of well-earned allies.
Whereas Thanatos seems to be a demigodlike Last Boss, capable of stealing life and mind control.
But then you also have to consider that Gandalf is a Maiar of Valinor, an angel of power in human form. And given his abilities as a fireworks-maker and his habit of stowing loads of the things in his robes, he might just be able to blind Thanatos and hit him over the head with his stick over and over.
Gandalf beat a fire-demon once
Also thanatos is the penultimate boss
I don't think Gandalf's powers work in a way that would significantly aid him here.
Oh yeah, he did that.
But he did it off-camera and died and changed color so I'm not counting it.
All of IJBM vs Alex.
Several people here know things besides swords. I'm assuming any of the people here who know how to use bows would win, assuming Alex doesn't be a coward and sneak up on us from behind >
Not to mention pure numbers would overtake him. Life ain't a vidya.
Harry Dresden Vs. Dante, Son of Sparda.
I only know the fighting styles and abilities of a few characters there. I know Bayonetta would be Dante, and probably Amaterasu and maaaaybe Viewtiful Joe.
If they can be put into small balls and bossed around by children, these gods don't seem particularly tough.
Hideki Kamiya has canonically said Bayonetta would beat Dante, so Bayonetta beats Dante.
Even if you don't like word of god stuff, Dante's never done anything on the power level of kicking a god from pluto to the sun.
^ Exactly my logic. Both the word of god, and just seeing what she does in the game.
And since Amaterasu is a God, Bayonetta would beat her.
A Pokemon that is too powerful for a Trainer will explicitly not obey it.
And that still doesn't change the fact that an army about two times the size of the Spartan army of magical animals would rip apart a million lions.
Fine, a TRILLION lions
It's not even a question of numbers. When you've got flyers like Thundurus and Zapdos, the lions won't even be able to touch you.
It would be really fun to watch though.
Yet a ten year old is eventually capable of commanding any pokemon. Still, further analysis of the pokemon franchise is the way to madness.
The differences are that where Harry has variety in attacks with evocation, Soulfire, and a Fae Court Mantle, Dante has the legendary endurance that all spectacle fighters do.
These are the same children who are the best trainers in their region.
Yeah, I've never seen a Cooltrainer Male with a fucking Zapdos.
It is canonical that all the player characters are the best of the best that their region has to offer. Red being the best of the best of the best. And Gold and Kris are better than that!
Actually, there is evidence supporting that the player characters of Pokemon B and W 2 are the strongest trainers ever.
They are still ostensibly children. You know, the little buggers we (rightfully) try to let nowhere near the steering wheel of a car, guns and weapons of mass destruction.
In general, the whole concept of Pokemon falls apart if you accept the premise that Pokemon are all that strong, but the games have pushed further in that direction with each gen.
You just aren't FRIENDS with your Pokemon, Noimporta. You just use them for battle.
Wait, that means that...
... Oh, god, the Pokemon universe is pro-reg.
Oh god, extremely.
Pokemon League? Gym Leaders? Trainer ID? Against Stolen Pokemon and Team Rocket who are unauthorized trainers?
The suspension of disbelief is weak with this one.
Isn't there also an ID for each specific Pokemon? And whatever mind control trickery the pokeballs are about... it's like those collar thingies from X-men.
Well, I have no problem when actually playing the game. But it's just that the world-building would work much better if the pokemon weren't as strong as they're generally assumed to be.
Pokemon is full of violations of known physics, and you still have trouble with believing that a kid can control omnipotent forces of nature