I am not ready to quit TV Tropes yet

MillerCross

You've been posting there, Bob?

Bob

>_>

<_<

^_^ Hehe, how absurd! A lil' angel like me? No, don't be silly. What?

vacasama

I'm pretty sure you're little but an angel?  Riiight.

Bob

Hey, Lucifer's an angel.

Vorpy

And so are you, Bob....-wink-

vacasama

So you're an angel of guro?

DonZabu

^^^ So are these two:

Bob

No, silly. I am merely the princess of guro.

I'm the angel of lesbian sex and cockteasing.

Vorpy

Stop making me want to watch that show.

Stop it

Nova

"Madrugada has been very clear on this subject. We are not to change what people are voting on.

Which is "Should Troper Tales be removed?

This does not address what, if anything, is done with them afterwards. It is only about whether they should continue to exist as pages on this site.""

Sorry, Madrugada. You have made your position on this very clear.

Nyarly

Somehow my motivation drains. It's not that I don't care anymore, but... I don't know. Maybe it's the dumbness of dontcallmewave and this guy with the Snape avatar. I mean, seriously.

Actually, I feel the urge to change my vote to "no". Not because I changed my mind. Just for fun.

MillerCross

your definition of fun is...odd.

ninjaclown

Wrong thread.

Counterclock

It's the mentality of the thread that really demotivates me.

It's like, people compared fixing TT to bashing their hands against a wall, and yet, maybe that's just how TvT is...

We're bashing our hands against a wall trying to clean up TvT.

Central Avenue

Somehow I stopped caring a while ago.

Probably when it became clear that the mods had no intention of ending the vote anytime soon.

Stormtroper

Actually, if you wouldn't mind dumpster diving and finding all the
threads that dealed with fixing Troper tales in the past. link those in
the deletion thread and in the 'fix' thread.

I'll do it. That is, I'll go through Wiki Talk and check each thread with a Troper Tales related title.

Stormtroper

I'm done. This is what I found on Wiki Talk and Special Efforts.

About Troper Tales in general:

• 
  This troper still appearing in troper tales - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13126140750A56522300&page=0
• 
  [Official] Troper Tales Redesign and Rename - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13067432560A75040100&page=1 - Important thread
  
• "This Troper" on Troper Tales pages - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13061624940A24906000&page=0
• Troper Tales for works - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13045237220A70600600&page=0
• Proof that Troper Tales is harming the wiki's reputation - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13040975770A08893000&page=1 - You know, the one about legal murder. Important, sort of.
  
• Regarding the Troper Tales Pages Scheduled for Deletion - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=12984809310A76780100&page=0
• TroperTales curator questions - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=12971971630A34020100&page=0
• What Troper Tales is and isn't for - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=12951871440A80486200&page=0
• What to do about Troper Tales. - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=12966242990A37382800&page=1#25 - Important thread
  
• Are troper tales implicit real life examples? - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=0nkly2f9etycaw0ravhpjps0&page=1#25
• The Troper Tales Great Hunt - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13057426050A79589100&page=1#9 - Important thread
  

About specific Troper Tales:

• 
  No troper Tales for Petite Pride? - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13115826890A18780500&page=0
• My Troper Tales Entry Is Being Deleted - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13064126940A56000100&page=0 - wut
• The TroperTales/BadAssSomeThing pages - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13052925750A48210400&page=0
• Troper Tales/Humans are Bastards: Do we really need this? - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=hqo9tm895d7vkmw5fe2kbnb2&page=1#22
• What to do now.: Troper Tales.Fetish Fuel - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1296693474014840100&page=1#25
  

About tangential Troper Tales things (straight questions, technical issues, etc.):

• 
  Whats up with TroperTales.NoJustNo? - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13121830240A80300500&page=0 - Technical issues.
  
• 
  Can we create a troper's tales for Wartime Wedding? -
  http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13119811220A81500500&page=0
• 
  Problem indexing new Troper Tales - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13118710930A58140500&page=0
• 
  Troper Tales archival problems - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13110534540A75340100&page=0
• What happened to Troper Tales? - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13107470540A45140100&page=0
• Can't get Troper Tales page to be created. - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13068111460A14080100&page=0
• Troper Tales page disappearing - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13014446530A32517200&page=0
• Folders on TroperTales/NightmareFuel not working - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=12984809310A76780100&page=0
• What happened to the Troper Tales index? - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=12918395240A03359300&page=0
• Strange grammar in place of This Troper on Troper Tales ... - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=5h70h74bdgkjkv28na0mecyn&page=1#3 - This is a question about a one-man effort, so I'm putting this here.
  

Other:

• Regarding how the wiki receives criticism. - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13059270440A88157600&page=1 - This thread was in response to the This Troper page being deleted. Troper Tales gets talked about.
  
• Oh yeah, and the two threads that got talked about here.

If you think this is worth posting over that thread, feel free to do so.

Nyarly

• My Troper Tales Entry Is Being Deleted - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13064126940A56000100&page=0
  - wut

Oh dear, the pedophilia guy. I remember that incident too well for my comfort.

Scrye2

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From HG 131:
"I really feel like I'm going to puke now. I'm not joking or exaggerating, I really feel like I'm going to puke."

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Funny, I say the same thing every time I read pro-pedophilia troper tales. Who knew?

Counterclock

From that first Link of Storms, are they really that...

Just wow.

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"As somebody who contributes to the wiki almost exclusively through Troper Tales...


I would have to say I don't like the idea. I like the current
background, but I could sort of get used to a forum-ish thing. My
bigger problem is the inability to reply. Troper Tales doesn't have
'natter'. It's basically a forum, except more...specialized"
 
~Morgie

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Now, this is not meant as a personal attack on the person.

Rather, it's a post expressing my disbelief at the quote.

Radd

The page for her, just...

vacasama

Sounds like a typical troper according to SA.

nohaynicklibre

>See a guy in a thread complaining about Western cartoons because they have small eyes.
>Go on his page
>All of his favourite shows are anime
>He says that bill that's banning several mangas in Japan is going to destroy the country

I don't mind if you thump this and I'll understand,just wanted to vent

Nova

While I'm usually the first to jump on the "security is a process, users should learn" bandwagon (judtifiedly), the truth is even if users are in an enough position of knowpower to secure their computers proactively or reactively , that can very likely not secure their connections. Encryption at the backend does not transfer security to the frontend — companies that want to offer a safer frontend use SSL or an alternative.

Not saying that the current system is bad, considering that there's not much else to protect than the actual handle and that for most cases it's easy to recover (however, I foresee cases where someone will have their account compromised, used for trolling, leading to FE's favored strategy of Orwellian Retconning things, like posts, out of existence, which means content that can not be recovered), but pointing out that you shouldn't be claiming to offer security at a level that you're not and shifting blame on users for potential failures. That's Business CS 101.

Translation?

The_Edge

^

MillerCross

Cygan: Basiaclly, lolol Eddie should stop promising security to its users, even though that's one of the few things he hasn't done

Also, our connections are not safe either.

Nova

Actually, by claiming to use a secure system (That's the purpose behind the username-and-password deal, to give your account some security by ensuring that nobody else can use your account, which does offer the implication that your account is secure and thus, as long as you keep the password to yourself, you're safe) and not actually securing it, he is violating an unspoken promise- he's offering a system that is used to make your system secure and not actually securing it.

Radd

I don't know how somebody would actually get to the passwords.

Nova

Cookies or something. I don't know, but apparently others do and have.

MillerCross

[REDACTED] did it a coupla weeks back to hack into Fast Eddie's account.

In fact, he was the one who changed the avatar and everything.