Howdy, Stranger!
It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
If you have an email ending in @hotmail.com, @live.com or @outlook.com (or any other Microsoft-related domain), please consider changing it to another email provider; Microsoft decided to instantly block the server's IP, so emails can't be sent to these addresses.
If you use an @yahoo.com email or any related Yahoo services, they have blocked us also due to "user complaints"
-UE
If you use an @yahoo.com email or any related Yahoo services, they have blocked us also due to "user complaints"
-UE
Comments
Hey these guys from Something Awful have some criticisms about us, I think we should take them into consideration.
"It's Something Awful, your argument is invalid."
The Fetish Fuel pages were something we received criticism for, and they were spun off into their own wiki.
To go further back, the problem with there being numerous anime examples that people had to wade through to get to their "medium" of choice was a big part of why there was a push to replace the AC system with the Folders system, so that people can easily ignore the categories they don't like.
So criticism is taken into account, and if the community agrees changes do occur, albeit more slowly I'm sure than many of the critics would like.
At the same time, though, not every criticism levelled at us is something that we should automatically change. For example, the vast majority of criticism I have seen for TVTropes outside of SA is against the No Such Thing As Notability policy, which is at the core of TVTropes operation. These criticisms usually come in the flavor of slamming us for having pages on Anime, FanFiction, and Webcomics, and would basically have us making value judgments on whether a given work is "worth" being listed. In my opinion, changing that would be going in the wrong direction.
There is also the fact that a not insignificant amount of the criticism comes from people that have no interest in seeing the site improve, they just want someone to laugh at. This has the effect of putting people on the defensive, and unfortunately makes it easier to miss the valid points that are otherwise brought up.
according to them, we're all nothing but a bunch of weeaboo pedophiles
who'd gladly fuck our sister while telling all this in an aristocrat
joke format to the intetubez.
To be fair, that's usually what Yackfest amounts to.
I'll grant that I haven't regularly visited the right side fora in over a year, but I seriously doubt it's changed that much.
This cycle will repeat, many, many times.
As one of the dregs of the internet you mention, I'll remind you that Fast Eddie acted with little prior input, and was open about not wanting to discuss the matter with anybody at all (including discussing what the new article should be) and willing to ignore the trope thing and just delete everything. This had little to do with who's complaining, but that it was about complaints.
Also, an even better example is Asperchu.
I was one of the dregs too, but I know one thing for sure, I'd hate to be Fast Eddie these days. The guy made this website that was really awesome for a while but things got out of hand and now he has to face assaults on multiple fronts. Fandoms, bannable tropers, banned tropers, This Troper, trolls from This Troper, Something Awful, and so on. For him, TV Tropes is a fight inside and out. I don't envy the guy.
And if it truly did keep all of those entries off the main pages, it at least served its intended purpose.
The phrase, "this troper", is old hat by now.
Have any of you been a part of SA in the past?
You're welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed it. And yeah, I never got to watching the second season, though I've heard bad things about it.
Anyway, more on topic: SA accounts cost money under the idea that it makes the stakes of doing stupid shit a lot higher than your general internet forum. The more money someone pumps into an account, the less likely they are to want to lose it. Doesn't always prevent people from acting like idiots (IN HOSPITAL, LOST FINGAT), but it certainly helps, considering there were 0 bannings yesterday despite over 7,000 users being on the one time I checked.
Honestly, I've found it pretty worth the $10. PYF alone was worth it (if you have a strong stomach, it's a bottomless source of hilarity), but I'm liking the rest of the forums as well. The amount of effort that goes into the Games section topics is especially nice.
Oh, and be sure to check out this thread. It's a beautiful trainwreck.
On moderation/the rules: The way I'd format the rules would be to set up a series of guidelines for what constitutes as acceptable behavior, followed by a list of rules that will absolutely get you banned for breaking (don't be an obnoxious dick, don't post illegal content, don't give out other users private information without permission, yada yada), and an addendum stating that the rules will be enforced (or not) as each moderator sees fit. It gives you some leeway while still giving posters an idea of what will and will not get them in trouble.