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  • He who laments and can't let go of the past is forever doomed to solitude.

    The explanations in Prometheus are about the Space Jockeys mostly, not the xenomorphs themselves.

  • edited 2012-06-24 00:46:33
    One foot in front of the other, every day.

    In Res, Weyland-Yutani is out of business. Which is kind of silly, because the Alien itself was only ever a facade of a villain with Weyland-Yutani being the true villainous force. 3 was more of a prison drama character development thing, but also with an Alien. Its biggest addition to the mythos was suggesting that an Alien takes traits from its host, although a lot of supplementary material has since blown that way out of proportion (including Prometheus, in fact, if the ending stinger is anything to go by). For the most part, though, it was a completion of Ripley's character arc and a redemptive story about prison monks. 


    ^ The thing is that there's no real way to explain Space Jockeys that lives up to their mystique. Prometheus did it as well as it could perhaps be done, but that doesn't mean leaving the question open wasn't a superior approach. I respect that you prefer answers over mystique, but in that case, the Alien mythos probably isn't your kind of thing to begin with. There's been a lot of comic books, games and books that attempt to explain things, but all those explanations fall flat when compared to the intrigue of ignorance the core films provide. 

  • You can change. You can.

    Space Jockeys? You mean the Engineers?

  • He who laments and can't let go of the past is forever doomed to solitude.

    That I do. I am wondering how far from Alien proper will the possible sequel go.

  • You can change. You can.

    I really do hope Prometheus becomes a franchise of its own not tied to Aliens mythos except by some associations here and there. I see some really good potential there, but it's not within the Alien stuff (Except for Weyland-Yutani, of course. Weyland-Yutani are best villains)

  • He who laments and can't let go of the past is forever doomed to solitude.

    From what I read on wikipedia, that's what Ridley Scott wants, have the possible sequels be even more tangential to Alien. It would basically mean that we have this universe with two stories told in it. How about that?

  • You can change. You can.

    i am totally ok with this

  • Oh so half the reason is that they went with self-contained episodes and the other is because they want people to associate with their latest creation?


    I'm okay with the former, but the latter makes me fume. Follow-the-your-partner is the exact reason why we now have Dark Avengers instead of Thunderbolts.

  • edited 2012-06-24 01:05:18
    One foot in front of the other, every day.

    The further from Alien the better, probably, but it might be too late. It also sort of established itself as a "monster movie", at least in part, and fanbases are always hungry for content. The thing about Prometheus is that it spends some of its runtime trying to be a prequel to Alien and other parts trying to be something completely different, and whenever it's trying to be a prequel, it feels like an imitation rather than a part of the same whole. 


    I mean, I can't be the only one disappointed with how the alien organisms in the movie were handled. The movie is great atmospherically and still managed to create significant tension, but compared to the original Alien (and I guess this will always be the thing), the monsters felt uninspired. For instance, the kraken-like tentacle monster towards the end resembles the Alien in terms of lifecycle, but is otherwise a completely generic and forgettable monster but for the film it was in


    All that said, Prometheus shows a lot of potential as its own thing while also proving how tragic the fall of the Alien franchise has been. If you haven't noticed, the bipartisan filmgoer in me and the Alien fanboy in me have entirely different opinions on this film. 


    Right now, I just hope that the Alien at the end of the film was a huge mistake and that they'll go back to the original design if they decide to reuse the monster

  • He who laments and can't let go of the past is forever doomed to solitude.

     I respect that you prefer answers over mystique, but in that case the Alien mythos probably isn't your kind of thing to begin with.



    You are completely right about that. Which is basically why I like prometheus, the references to alien might have hurt your understanding of it but to me, they are nods to a story I don't actually care for.

  • I'm a damn twisted person
    Kraken - for what it's worth Thunderbolts has been fairly mediocre for a while. So it's not like a solid title is getting rebranded to capitalize on sudden popularity.
  • Still, why can't they stick with the name.


    WHY


    DARK AVENGERS SOUNDS DUUUUUUUUMB

  • You can change. You can.

    I honestly don't mind them rebranding the Avengers to be more like the movie provided it ends up being as good as the movie was. Which I'll admit is unlikely but whatever.

  • Well, another cube draft today, but there was drama so I'll spare the update. Fuck that shit.

  • Free festival in the Hague today, with Amy McDonald as one of the final acts. Too bad the weather is utter shite.

  • I am actually the kind of person that wants answers, not mystique.

  • So, I told my friend about a poem I was gonna write. Does the title "The Shy Princess and the Copper Knight" sound like a porno to you guys?

  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    A very odd porno, but yeah, kinda.

  • >Adam Ant plays there in full pirate garb


    Yeah, McDonald couldn't top that.

  • Really? Damn...it's not meant to be! How is it porny? I don't understand! XD

  • "you duck spawn, refined creature, you try to be cynical, yokel, but all that comes out of it is that you're a dunce!!!!! you duck plug!"

    It's not that porntastic to me... Now, if it had title along the lines of "Shy Princess and long copper Knight"...

  • Sounds like a post-modern fairy-tale.

  • I'm a damn twisted person
    And the endless jokes about how "hard" the copper knight is. And Shy Princess sounds kinda like a stripper name. Demure yet naughty.

  • So, I told my friend about a poem I was gonna write. Does the title "The Shy Princess and the Copper Knight" sound like a porno to you guys?



    Not really, in fact, asking if it sounds like a porno will only make people try to justify it sounding like a pornography.


    I'm curious about what it is, but not too interested as it sounds like too many stereotypes played out to their logical conclusions.

  • We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year

    I've been reading a fair amount of keyboardings telling that the villain in Snow White and the Huntsman is the one I should be rooting for. Maybe I should actually see it...

  • You can change. You can.

    well, she's played by Theron. Rule number 43 of the movies is that you always root for Charlize Theron. Even when she's an ugly-ass serial killer

  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!

    ^^Isn't she, like, trying to murder someone for being prettier than her? That's kind of hard to justify. Then again, internet.

  • You can change. You can.

    Film reviewer Adam Brannon stated that Snow White and the Huntsman was less sickly sweet than its competitor Mirror Mirror, but conversely said that it lacked depth, comparing it unfavorably to 2010's Alice in Wonderland.



    yannow, when things are being compared unfavourably to burton movies, you know it's time to reconsider your life

  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!

    Man, to be worse than Burton's Alice you have to be really dedicated to sucking. You have to go at sucking with the same fervor most movie makers do at making something good.

  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    So, I'm probably not going to be living on my own for some time, but ever since I discovered that it's possible to get free furniture by making it out of pallets, I've been really looking forward to eventually getting an apartment or whatever. Is that weird?
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