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Nakama is being renamed.

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  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    It also sounds really goddamn cool.

    Not the point of the site.
  • MadassAlexMadassAlex
    One foot in front of the other, every day.
    IJBM: This is a big deal.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    It is because of the precedent, not because of the trope, the reputation of the site or whatever. But Nakama was pretty much the standard of what the majority of the site wanted, now that's changed. Thus big deal. Same way that Xanatos Gambit would be if it gets a rename.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    "Not the point of the site."

    I don't give a damn.

    IT SOUNDS COOL
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    edited 2011-07-10 00:54:30
    You can change. You can.
    It also sounds really goddamn cool.

    We already have Up To Eleven, and there's really no point in changing a famous quote/expression to a sily Anime reference.

    ^This shit being...?
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    "Not the point of the site."

    I don't give a damn.

    IT SOUNDS COOL

    Get over it. That's not what the point of the site is, and they're not going to twist the site's purpose to fit it just so it sounds cool.
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    IJBM: This is a big deal.

    YES YES A THOUSAND TIMES YES
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Then step out of it. If you don't particularly care, don't involve yourself in it.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    edited 2011-07-10 01:01:54
    You can change. You can.
    ^^ Again, precedent.

    ^This too.

    Besides, never thought you really cared about the wiki, Malkypoo.
  • VorpyVorpy
    ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    ROW ROW BEYOND THE IMPOSSIBLE
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    ^^Eh, I'm a serial tweaker. I think names were more fun when they were stuff like 'sunnydale syndrome' and 'spikeification'.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Eh, clearer over reference any day of the the week.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    The Wiki is intended to be a resource. Unobtainable? Perhaps, but that's the end goal.

    Clarity over obtuseness. Obtuseness includes foreign titles (many English speakers will not know the words) and references to works (reliant upon knowledge of the work.)
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Of course, if the reference does make the title clear, then it's welcomed, I think.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Yes.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Wonder if we should call the trope Amigos and be done with it. =P
  • inkblotinkblot
    edited 2011-07-10 01:22:42
    000
    "The Wiki is intended to be a resource."

    The wiki is completely unusable as a serious resource and that won't change unless you want to enforce sources and NPOV.

    We're about as likely to get cited in a research paper or even a news article as Cracked.

    "Unobtainable? Perhaps, but that's the end goal."

    If the end goal is unobtainable, the site will end up pleasing nobody and will lose editors.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Not an academic resource...
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Notice that you missed something in that quote of yours.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    If the end goal is unobtainable, the site will end up pleasing nobody and will lose editors.

    No more than Wikipedia's goal of cataloguing everything will.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Also, when has any wiki been used as a source on an academic endeavor? Not even wikipedia is valid. 
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    No wiki is valid as a resource.
  • inkblotinkblot
    edited 2011-07-10 01:41:38
    000
    Wikipedia focuses on consistency and accuracy. It has copies of every revision of their articles, reviews their own articles to ensure it lives up to their high standard and has been compared favorably to Encyclopedia Brittanica. It wants to *make* wikis valid as a resource.

    TV Tropes plays far more loosely, and Fast Eddie had made it clear that he likes it that way. We're read for fun. We're entertainment, not a useful resource, and renaming unclear trope names won't change that.

  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Good for them. Now, why should we care? We're not supposed to be a resource on anything but media. And even then, it's not like we're not reliable or inaccurate. Consistency is another story entirely.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    TVTropes is, I believe, meant to a resource about storytelling.
  • VorpyVorpy
    ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    TVTropes is, I believe, meant to a resource about storytelling.

    It can do other things too.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Yes. They're not its' primary focus, but it does have secondary uses.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    It can do other things too.

    It still hasn't made me breakfast, though. :<
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    That's because you smell bad.
  • MadassAlexMadassAlex
    One foot in front of the other, every day.
    It bugs me that this is a big deal because it flows against the grain of TV Tropes being a naturally changing organism. The names of the tropes have always reflected the small subculture of the community that defines them, and using Japanese terms from time to time is a part of the perspective of the community. TV Tropes isn't some kind of monolithic, academic source of information; it's a natural collation.

    I'm not against change in particular - that would run contrary to everything I've said - but making a huge deal out of a subcultural loanword that most of us understand seems too nitpicky when the same people could be making much more meaningful contributions to the wiki.

    I don't care whether the trope is named "Nakama" or not, but I do care that this kind of thing is somehow a priority issue.
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