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Nakama is being renamed.

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  • HatterHatter
    Glaives are better.

    "We Happy Few" or "We Band of Brothers," then.

    It's ultimately a quote from Henry IV.

  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    @Cygan: I agree that it's a possibility, which is why I included that bit in my post. However, he's had ample opportunities to Admin Fiat away Nakama in the past, but he's chosen not to do so. So it remains to be seen what will happen.

    In the past, there was always an overwhelming majority in favour of keeping it as-is, and it was determined as not worth the effort.
  • ChagenChagen
    edited 2011-07-10 00:17:55
    [tɕagɛn]
    I prefer one word.

    That's why I like "Nakama". It's a simple word. I can say "Bob and his Nakama". "Bob and his Band of Brothers" sounds a little wordy.

    That's why I support "Camaraderie". It gets the point across and it's one word. 

    Though it's fucking impossible to spell correctly. 
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    "We Happy Few" or "We Band of Brothers," then.
    It's ultimately a quote from Henry IV.

    Too similar.
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    ...Coterie?

    /wodfag
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Though it's fucking impossible to spell correctly. 

    Not really...
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Because we have that word in Spanish, I do not mind at all. =D
  • ElbeemElbeem
    edited 2011-07-10 00:22:22
    @Cygan: Again, I'm not saying it's impossible for Eddie to drop the fiat hammer on the title if the crowner doesn't work out for renaming.

    I'm just not sure why you seem to be so certain he will, given that there's no indication of such in the TRS thread.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Eddie is unpredictable while predictable, to say the least.
  • HatterHatter
    Glaives are better.

    It describes the trope the best. Just because a popular series named after it came out relatively recently doesn't mean the average newbie can't navigate to it easily.

    A trope named after moonspeak, though, isn't as easy to find if you don't know anything about anime or whatever.

  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    Nor is Xanatos Gambit, but hey.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    To be honest, it takes three seconds to click a link and find out what it means.

    Anyone too lazy to do that needs to GTFO the site.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Yes, but it makes enjoying a work page harder. and wiki walks easier, I'll admit.

    Now, it's a subjective deal, but I hate wikiwalking. When I want to consult something, then I want to find out in the quickest possible way, not by having to click on thirteen tabs to completely understand a sentence.
  • VorpyVorpy
    ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    Now, it's a subjective deal, but I hate wikiwalking. When I want to
    consult something, then I want to find out in the quickest possible way,
    not by having to click on thirteen tabs to completely understand a
    sentence.

    Laconic
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Thriteen Laconic tabs, then.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    Oh what the fuck

    they're thinking of altering Beyond The Impossible from it's common use of "Taking things to utterly awesome/ridiculous extremes"

    dude

    that's just wrong
  • DonZabuDonZabu
    edited 2011-07-10 00:42:03
    Let's be honest here: this isn't much about understandability and whatnot so much as it's about TV Tropes's image.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    edited 2011-07-10 00:39:59
    You can change. You can.
    Beyond the impossible should be:

    Up to Eleven repeated over and over within a single work.

    Notice how it is used just to mean "Up To Eleven", but more!

    ^To be perfectly honest, I didn't think of that till you mentioned it just now.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    @Cygan: Again, I'm not saying it's impossible for Eddie to drop the fiat hammer on the title if the crowner doesn't work out for renaming. 

    I'm just not sure why you seem to be so certain he will, given that there's no indication of such in the TRS thread.

    It's Eddie >_>

    -shrug- It's the most likely course of action he'll take, given his disdain for the name.
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    edited 2011-07-10 00:40:35
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    ^^^This. So much this. Which is why it annoys me.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    But that use is more awesome and better IMO.

    A lot of these "mis-uses" are cooler than the original use. That's Trope Evolution, not Decay.
  • NovaNova
    edited 2011-07-10 00:41:24
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Let's be honest here: this isn't much about understandability and whatnot so much as it's about TV Tropes's image.

    It's about how people can view the Trope. If there's an incomprehensible name, people aren't going to be linking to it.
  • VorpyVorpy
    ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    Evolution,

    but the bible says Evolution is bad DO IT FAGGOT I DARE YOU TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    The bible never actually says anything for or against evolution.
  • DonZabuDonZabu
    edited 2011-07-10 00:45:41
    ^^^ That's a part of it, maybe, but the real focus here is that people on TV Tropes are sick of other people calling them weeaboo neckbeards, so they're starting to take steps against the most infamous culprits in that regard. That's why Nakama is getting the most high-profile rename, while other trope names that might be similarly incomprehensible aren't.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Well, if that was the case, then it would have been brought up and agreed upon in one of the 100000 threads we've made about reputation.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6jdzkoqezbb2n4oy1igh74wm&page=0

    The entire point of the trope is to be negative.

    THE ENTIRE FUCKING POINT.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Now, now, let's not go and bash TRS, because that'd be importing drama and shit.

    Also, because I forgot to adress here:

    But that use is more awesome and better IMO.

    It is also incredibly redundant. 

  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    "It is also incredibly redundant. "

    It also sounds really goddamn cool.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    That's a part of it, maybe, but the real focus here is that people on TV Tropes are sick of other people calling them weeaboo neckbeards, so they're starting to take steps against the most infamous culprits in that regard. That's why Nakama is getting the most high-profile rename, while other trope names that might be similarly incomprehensible aren't.

    No, we started renaming them because it was brought up in a thread. This thread was brought up by fans of anime when Eddie vetoed a trope called Ryokan, a specifically Japanese inn, and agreed to let it back in under the name "Ryokan inn", despite the redundancy.

    We argued for a while as to whether Tsundere needed renaming (consensus said not really). Then Nakama was brought up, and a bunch of people said "Yeah, that one needs to go" in relation to the earlier discussion, so I started a thread on it.

    It has such a high profile because the last few times it was brought up there was a lot of argument, and Eddie didn't want anyone to be able to say "We didn't know Nakama was being renamed!"
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