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Dark Souls: Siegfried stops writing a journal like some bitchy teenager, the game is discussed.

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  • edited 2012-03-31 18:13:29
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    Got to play more today. Killed the Witch of Izalith.


    That leaves Nito and the Four Kings. I kindled the bonfire before the former up to its maximum level, and my pyromancy is maxed out ATM so I should be fine. Though I'm tempted to upgrade my old Claymore to Fire +10. It's only at Fire +4 right now. Worth backtracking, or should I just use the man-serpent sword +15?

  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Nevermind, killed him. Didn't even take a third of my pyromancy.



    Almost ready for four kings. Can't summon Beatrice though, because I didn't use her for the butterfly -_-
  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    the stupid tree things in the garden keep killing me :<

  • Only let one of them attack you at once if possible.  Stay at a distance so they don't use their grabby attack.  Block their attacks and then retaliate.


    And as for INUH... Four Kings are easy.  Just make sure you have a shield with high magic resistance because I really don't know how to dodge their magic attacks.

  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    According to the wiki, using the Dark Hand as a shield causes their magic attack to fail entirely. So I'd be tempted to do that if it weren't for the hand only having 80% physical block.

  • Their physical attacks are very easy to dodge, so blocking their magic is much more important than blocking their physical attacks.


    You might even be able to get away with carrying both and switching as needed, though. 

  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    I'll experiment. I have the highest damage it's possible to get with a pure physical weapon (well, theoretically I could grind strength, but screw that) and I have pyromancy maxed out as well. And I ditched the ring of favor and protection ages ago, so that's taken care of.


    My main concern is that there's more than one enemy, and Ornstein and Smough made me hate fights like that. I should be able to take them out before being attacked by the next ones to spawn for the above reasons though.

  • When I did Four Kings, both on the first playthrough and NG+, I had no problems killing them all before the next one would spawn.  Though, I don't really know how my damage would compare to yours, since I was entirely using sorcery.

  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    My Great Chaos Fireball tends to do ~600-1000 damage, depending on the enemy. And my sword (my weakest attack) does 400-ish physical damage. 

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    Only let one of them attack you at once if possible.  Stay at a distance so they don't use their grabby attack.  Block their attacks and then retaliate.



    There's three at once, in one of the areas just near some white fog.

  • One foot in front of the other, every day.

    Backtrack. Get them into a narrower area and make attacks of opportunity. 

  • edited 2012-04-01 08:23:45

    And if you have it, using Fire Orb will probably help, although you might want to save your spells for the next room if I'm remembering where you are correctly.

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    > spells


    what are these

  • Do you not have any pyromancy yet?

    If not, you should really probably go to the Depths... right now, and rescue the pyromancer there.  Pyromancy is ridiculously useful throughout the whole game.

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    I don't even know what the Depths are. I only know that I can go into the Garden and I'm not sure where else I could even go.

  • edited 2012-04-01 08:38:30

    Do you have the Basement Key?  If not, it's... somewhere in the Undead Parish, I forget where.


    Anyway, you use that to open the door on the bridge with the wyvern.


    That brings you to the lower part of the Undead Burg.  There are several important things here.


    A sorcerer is locked in a room, which requires the Residence Key to open (bought from the Undead Merchant back at the start of Undead Burg), or just the Master Key if you have it.


    There is a shortcut to Firelink Shrine past the fog gate that leads to the boss (not inside the fog gate, but, like... don't enter it and just keep walking through the area and you'll get there eventually), which I'd recommend you open before fighting the boss, since it'll be way easier to get back that way if you die.


    And if you beat the boss then you can go to the Depths, the entrance to which is right at the end of that part of Undead Burg, so... you'll see it when you get there.


    And the Depths suck a lot and you don't actually have to do most of it if you have the Master Key, but you probably should anyway, and even if you do have the Master Key you ought to do the very first part to rescue the Pyromancer so you can use Pyromancy and get the Large Ember so you can upgrade weapons to +10. 

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.

    I don't actually know where any of that is.


    I'll go back there tomorrow and see if I can figure out where all this is, when it's not twenty to one twelve.

  • edited 2012-04-01 14:45:38
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    Killed the Four Kings, killed Gwyn, linked the fire. Four Kings were easy, but I'm not sure I'd have managed Gwyn on only the second try if I hadn't had Solaire with me.


    Anyway, started NG+. Killed the Asylum Demon on the first loop, then killed the Minotaur (in two hits) and had Beatrice help me kill the Moonlight Butterfly. She was really helpful; she took out at least 3/4 of its HP while I just stood in front of her holding up the Crest Shield, since I didn't have a good ranged weapon.


    Also, the Silver Serpent ring + New game plus bosses = a lot of souls.

  • edited 2012-04-01 14:48:28

    Also, the Silver Serpent ring + New game plus bosses = a lot of souls.



    + Symbol of Avarice = even more souls.


    While you should probably have the Covetous Silver Serpent Ring equipped at all times except maybe when you really need a different one (Four Kings, Lost Izalith, maybe the bottom of Blighttown or the part of Sen's Fortress with the Titanite Demons), you can actually equip either or both of those items just after killing a boss, and since there's a delay before it actually gives you the souls, you'll get the extra 44% souls even if you weren't equipped with either item when you actually killed the boss.

  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    I haven't had the good fortune to get one of those.



    Incidentally, I consumed every single boss soul from the first loop because i didn't really need any of the items. I'll make bette use of the ng+ ones though since their soul yields don't matter as much this time around.
  • I haven't consumed any of the boss souls since I want to get every item in the game, partly for the achievements, but mostly because I want an excuse to finally stop playing Dark Souls and move onto other games I haven't played yet...

  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    When I beat ng+, I'll start a cleric file, then I'll get Demon's Souls. Migh play other games between them. Idunno.
  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    So. Rang both bells. The Gargoyles got a bigger buff than most of the other bosses I've run into so far.


    Then I decided I'd kill the Ceaseless Discharge. You know, the easiest boss in the game, that will only hit you once if you know what you're doing?


    It one-shotted me through my dragoncrest shield. I have endurance at 50 and vitality in the high 20s and its first attack still went through the entire endurance bar and the entire health bar. What. The. Fuck.


    So then I did Sen's Fortress. I'm right before the Golem, but I figured I should take a break.

  • edited 2012-04-01 17:27:05

    Then I decided I'd kill the Ceaseless Discharge. You know, the easiest boss in the game, that will only hit you once if you know what you're doing?



    No, Ceaseless Discharge is more difficult than the Pinwheel, Moonlight Butterfly, Darkroot Hydra, Iron Golem, Gaping Dragon, and Tauros Demon for the sole reason that Ceaseless Discharge actually requires some amount of effort beyond just standing in one spot and spamming spells. 

  • edited 2012-04-01 17:35:03
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    I said if you know what you're doing. After all, if you do, he'll only attack once, and if you have the Dragoncrest shield (on the first go-through) you can just keep running through the attack.

  • edited 2012-04-01 17:34:54

    Is that so?  -looks it up-  Oh, hey, yeah.


    That's... actually really silly that you can do that.  Especially since it's not really that hard a boss fight even if you just fight it normally. 

  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    It's not that hard for a sorcery specialist, maybe. For the other builds, it's not so easy.


    And yeah, it's pretty silly, but I love doing it.


    I looked back at the video and apparently it is possible to evade his one firespew attack entirely, if you're fast enough. I guess I'll have to do that, since getting hit by him is apparently instant death now.

  • edited 2012-04-01 17:45:46

    Actually, I don't really think it'd be much different whether you use sorcery or not.  For the most part I was just waiting for him to do his vertical punchy attack that leaves him open afterward, then spamming spells at him after dodging it.  Which means it was pretty much the same as if I were using melee attacks the whole time, although sorcery did let me Crystal Soul Spear him a couple times right at the start of the fight, which cut down on the amount of time I really needed to be fighting him, so... 

  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    He's also apparently really weak to magic, though that's just what I've heard.


    My main annoyance when fighting him is that he has that one "burn fucking everything" attack. Once you're closer, it's less annoying, but the fight doesn't really interest me all that much, so I usually just trip him.

  • Well... yeah.  That still does seem like a much better way to fight him and I'm sure if I end up needing to fight him in a NG++ then I'll do it that way (although I think I won't have to get that far, since I think to get everything that I don't already have, I'll just need to get a couple Sunlight Medals and kill Sif again on a third playthrough).

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