All Purpose Pokemon Thread

Crimson

See the thing is, even ROM hackers can't make the A.I. more intelligent past a certain point. So they use other tricks to make fights harder.

ClockworkUniverse

Couldn't you apply the elite four AI to other fights, though?

Crimson

I think all the Gym Leaders in BB/VW have E4 level A.I.

ClockworkUniverse

I meant all other fights. If we're talking about improving difficulty.

Tachikaze

Well, I'm pretty sure they gave one random early game trainer maxed out AI and perfect EVs and IVs. But given his name, they kinda had to. >.>

Radd

What was his name?

Tachikaze

Youngster Joey.

Vorpy

Randomized Elite 4 pokemon, who match up against yours to determine the more fucked up match-ups (oh hey he's running 2 Electrics, I should get Ground, and oh, an Ice pokemon, let's do some fighting stuff against it).

Games much harder when you don't know what you are playing against and can't plan accordingly.

Crimson

^So turn the E4 into the Battle Tower?

*Shudder*

Vorpy

Good trainers don't build their teams around one common weakness, ya know. The Elite 4 could just be very good trainers with a giant array of badass pokemon to choose from, rather than type-themed trainers.

Icalasari

The battle tower blatantly cheats

Lance blatantly cheats

It would be the perfect match up

Tachikaze

Can't argue with that...

Battle Tower cheats more though.

Vorpy

Well I mean not with the Fire Fang thing, but each Elite 4 and Champion gets a pool of extremely well-trained pokemon, and 5/6 are randomly chosen and played with, so each time you go down the Elite 4 it's like a whole new experience.

Icalasari

^ Would be good if it did something like the anime (a tournament then you face the E4 if you win said tourny)

RedEyedAbyss

That was essentially the Pokemon Stadium games, only replace E4 with Mewtwo or Rival Rival.

707ruz

Stadium didn't choose random pokemon for their trainers...

IanExMachina

If I was an Elite Four member I'd start a massive PR campaign describing how I like X pokémon type and pose with a few of that type I owned.

Then I'd have a team that either countered the main weakness to my media favourite type, or just use a balanced team.

So in other words I'd lie and be a poor sport.

Icalasari

^ *coughLancesayinghetrainsdragontypesthenhavingaGyaradosandanAerodactylonhisteamcough*

Nova

Well... Gyarados is like a fish-dragon. And it can learn Dragon-type moves.

707ruz

Lance trains Flying types.

Seriously, all his original G/S HG/SS team are flying types.

Forzare

If Lance had been an exclusively Dragon-type trainer (instead of Pokemon that kinda look like dragons if you tilt your head and squint), he'd have had six Dragonites.

RedEyedAbyss

And Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald's Elite Four lineup (Phoebe: Dusclops, Banette, Sableye, Banette, Dusclops; Glacia: Sealeo, Sealeo, Glalie, Glalie, Walrein) just goes to show how lame that would be.

I think Will's team was one of the most diverse for sticking to one type.

Icalasari

^ At the very least the Sinnoh Elite Four shouldn't have even bothered with claiming types in DP (I'm looking at you, Flint!)

Tachikaze

To be fair, he had a hot air balloon, something with a body tempered by the heat close to poke-earth's core (which makes total sense when it suddenly evolves on top of a mountain or...anywhere the player is allowed to go really) and something based on a playboy bunny...or at least that's how TvTropes justifies his team. >.>

Icalasari

^ Dammit, other than the playboy bunny, Bulbapedia accepts that as the reasoning as well and says that it is a fire themed team

...Still, I'd rather the Elite Four switch to themes. That would be more fun

For example...

...Ok, yeah, I suck when I can't make a simple five Pokemon themed team that isn't mono or dual type

nohaynicklibre

Is Bulabapedia down for all of you or just me? I did see the message saying they were moving servers, but that only said editing would be locked

Tachikaze

^^ Manectric, Arcanine, Houndoom, Stoutland, Mightyena, -insert 6th dog pokemon that I can't think of off the top of my head here-? -elemental monkeys-, Hihidaruma, Infern- wait, that'd be too fire heavy...umm...yeah, if they went with species based teams, colour based teams, body type based teams, etc...

Icalasari

^ Pikachu themed!

Pikachu, Pikachu, Pikachu, Pikachu, Pikachu, and Arceus, just to throw you off

Tachikaze

I like it! But I kinda meant like the two species-y teams in my post. >.>

Also, egg groups.

Icalasari

^ "I'm the ground gym leader"
"Sweet! I choose you, Blastoise!"
"Go, Shiftry!"
"ಠ_ಠ"