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GMH plays Pokémon Perfect Crystal: the Quest for the Full Pokédex



  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    They actually have specific teams that are used for rematches.

    When they call you for a rematch, the game brings up a rematch team, based on the following:
    1. Have you gotten past [event flag] yet? If so, allow a higher rematch lineup, pending the following:
    2. Have you fought the rematch lineups yet? If not, then fight those first, once per rematch.

    So, for example, Youngster Joey and his Rattata.

    The first time you fight him, he has a L4 Rattata. The second time you fight him, I think you need to fight the L4 Rattata again, but then after that, if you've reached Goldenrod City, he now has a L15 Rattata (and will continue to have it for further rematches as long as you haven't reached Olivine City), and if you've reached Olivine City, he now has a L21 Rattata, and so on.

    You can see all his teams and their corresponding event flags here: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Joey

    Different trainers have different event flags I think.
  • edited 2021-07-16 07:28:22
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Come to think of it I forgot to bring my Togepi in for a haircut yesterday.

    Oh well.

    Before this game, I didn't even know that Togepi could get a haircut, frankly.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    seen: Gyarados

    and not just any Gyarados
    Fisher Marvin's Gyarados, specifically:


    I just checked, and apparently this is in the vanilla game too.

    And he also has a L15 Gyarados. There are L15 wild Gyarados in the Lake of Rage, but...L10?????

    Also, there is an ocean of difference between the XP awards for defeating a Magikarp vs. defeating a Gyarados.

    L10 Magikarp: 42 XP
    L10 Gyarados: 457 XP
    L15 Magikarp: 63 XP
    L15 Gyarados: 687 XP
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Pokémaniac Ben has a L20 Slowbro, but at least those are wild-catchable in Slowpoke well. In the vanilla game, he has a L19 Slowbro. lol.

    seen: Slowbro

    At level 21, Bellsprout evolves! Now I have a genuine Weepinbell for my Team Rocket team!

    Record #110: Weepinbell

    Pokémaniac Ron references the name of the rival.

    seen: Nidoking

    I forgot to bring my Surf Slowpoke so I'll need to run back to Mahogany Town in order to catch a Gyarados.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Record #111: Venomoth
  • edited 2021-07-17 16:15:38
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Note to self: Shiny Gyarados is level
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Since I'm gonna try to not get pwned by the Shiny Gyarados, I think I might actually go do the thing I wanted to do earlier, which was go across the sea.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    I ran across a L20 Seaking and decided to just catch it and get it over with.

    Record #112: Seaking

    While on my berry-farming rounds I ran into Raikou again. I threw a Great Ball at it on my first turn, but that didn't work (to no one's surprise).

    seen: Raikou

    Curiously, it was on the same route that I encountered Entei earlier (Route 30).

    Schoolboy Alan calls me to tell me that he's been training with his Tangela, and recently knocked out a wild Pidgey. Good job I guess, what with the type disadvantage? (N.B. it's actually a randomly-generated message.)

    Gonna have Kurt make me some Friend Balls.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Oh wait, for some reason I hadn't read your latest posts until now. There should be a full 2nd gen hack, yeah, I mean, the original was a 3rd gen full-dex hack so all it'd take would be to hack its sprites into Heart Gold or Soul Silver. A quick Google search tells me this is so. I doubt there's one for the non-remakes, though.

    Anyhows, I'm here 'cuz I found there's an actual playable Cursed Black hack and you must dooooo eeeeet
    was revisiting this thread since i've been thinking a lot about pokémon lately and wanting to get back into this, and i was reminded of this post
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    New "rule" to deal with a situation I didn't originally foresee (somehow):

    My secondary objective is to make (nearly?) every pokémon in its final evolution form viable for some sort of endgame team.

    So instead of just dumping fully-evolved mons into the box never to be used again, I should generally aim to train them up to, roughly speaking, level 50, or whenever they get their last moves.

    (I've always felt bad about just dumping my Crobat who just evolved because of happiness, heh. And similarly I've been a bit anxious about leveling up my Ekans/Koffing/Meowth too much. Now I don't have to be.)

    This also means sorting out their movesets.

    I've been planning to get back into this by looking through my boxes to see what I have and to consider their movesets through lots of Bulbapedia lookups. (Sidenote: For some reason Bulbapedia now has a captcha.)

    Maybe I'll do that as they come, rather than all at once.
  • edited 2022-12-08 07:33:52
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Booted up a Pokémon game!

    Current status:
    Badges: 4
    Pokédex: 102
    Time: 110:29
    Pack: berries and apricorns for days, balls for days, weird things, TMs/HMs

    (N.B.: It seems base stats for HP don't correlate numerically with actual HP in the same way the other base stats do with their corresponding stats.)

    Current team

    Vulpix L14 [Fire]
    39HP, 22/20/23/27/26 (current)
    38, 41/40/50/65/65 (base stats)
    73, 76/75/81/100/100 (Ninetales base stats)
    Seems like a somewhat decent statline, kinda lacking in physical but having great special defense and speed.

    Current moveset: Ember, Tail Whip, Quick Attack, Roar
    Ideal natural moveset: Flamethrower, Confuse Ray, Quick Attack, Safeguard or Fire Spin?

    HMs available: none

    Ninetales has basically nothing except (for some reason Flamethrower at a higher level.
    Can evolve anytime after level 31 (37 if I want Fire Spin sooner).
    Not sure whether I prefer Fire Spin or Safeguard.

    Flaaffy L20 [Electric]
    63HP, 29/32/45/37/29 (current)
    70, 55/55/80/60/45 (base stats)
    90, 75/75/115/90/55 (Ampharos base stats)
    Great special attack, decent special defense and reasonably tanky. but slow.

    Current moveset: Tackle, Thunder Wave, Thundershock, Headbutt
    Ideal natural moveset: Thunder Punch (Ampharos only, at level 30), Thunder Wave, Thunder, Cotton Spore(?)
    Ideal moveset in my playthrough: Thunder Punch, Thunder Wave, Thunder, Headbutt

    HMs available: Strength, Flash

    Cotton Spore is great for messing with the opponent's speed but I'm not sure how useful it will be to me. It's also only 80% accurate. Light Screen seems great but Ampharos's special defense is already respectable. Thunder Punch and Thunder give decent total PP while Thunder Wave provide guaranteed paralyze. Headbutt gives extra type coverage and also makes Flaaffy/Ampharos my designated Headbutt user.

    Skiploom L20 [Grass/Flying]
    59HP, 32/27/27/35/45 (current)
    55, 45/50/45/65/80 (base stats)
    75, 55/70/55/85/110 (Jumpluff base stats)
    Great speed. Crap offense; other stats aren't great either.

    Current moveset: PoisonPowder, Synthesis, Sleep Powder, Tackle
    Ideal moveset: PoisonPowder/Leech Seed, Mega Drain, Sleep Powder/Cotton Spore, Tackle

    HMs available: Flash

    Very little offensive capability (Tackle as a backup move?!), but seems to be useful for statusing. Sleep Powder is more useful for catching mons. For strategic stalling, Poison/Leech Seed/Mega Drain would be optimal (with Sleep for backup). I probably won't bring this into battle, but will keep it around when looking to catch stuff.

    Machop L22 [Fighting] (traded pokémon)
    70HP, 43/32/24/24/25 (current)
    70, 80/50/35/35/35 (Machop's base stats)
    80, 100/70/50/60/45 (Machoke's base stats)
    90, 130/80/65/85/55 (Machamp's base stats)
    Excellent physical attack, unsurprisingly. Decent HP, defense, and special defense. Useless at special attacks and very slow. This would mean flinch moves are useless, by the way.

    Current moveset: Low Kick, Leer, Seismic Toss, Karate Chop

    HMs available: Strength

    Ideal moveset: Vital Throw, Foresight, Seismic Toss, Cross Chop

    Machop's low speed makes Low Kick's flinch chance near-useless. On the other hand, it makes Vital Throw very useful. Scary Face lowers opponent's speed 2 stages, which could put machop on par, but that decreases the usefulness of Vital Throw. Cross Chop is like Karate Chop in being a high crit move but isn't as accurate as Karate Chop and has far less PP, but it's twice as powerful and I've got other attacks here. Submission is only 80 base power and has recoil; compare Cross Chop's 100 and Vital Throw's 70, while Seismic Toss will probably be my workhorse. If I wanted an 80 base power workhorse move it'd be Strength, which is more accurate anyway. But I probably won't put Strength on this mon because it levels up faster than others.

    Togepi L10 [Normal]
    29HP, 12/18/14/19/12 (current)
    35, 20/65/40/65/20 (Togepi's base stats)
    55, 40/85/80/105/40 (Togetic's base stats)

    Current moveset: Growl, Charm, Metronome, Rock Smash

    (they're the same)
    HMs available: Flash

    Ideal moveset for this run: Encore/Charm/Safeguard Metronome, Rock Smash

    Slow and can't physical attack well. HP is also rather poor though I guess with its low attack Double Edge's recoil might ironically hurt less? Physical defense and both special stats are better, with Togepi being a possibly viable special defender. Still, not a great pokémon to use.

    Togepi's only naturally learned attack is Double-Edge, which I don't like because of recoil. I instead made it my designated Rock Smash user for now, which means I have to bring it along every time I go through Dark Cave or whateve it's called. For now, at least. I'll probably find someone else to use Rock Smash later, after Togetic's evolution finishes. (TMs are infinite-use in my hack.) This is a mon I don't want to use.

    Slowpoke L22 [Water/Psychic]
    80HP, 41/40/31/31/20 (current)
    90, 65/65/40/40/15 (Slowpoke base stats)
    95, 75/110/100/80/30 (Slowbro base stats)
    95, 75/80/100/110/30 (Slowking base stats)

    The Slowpoke family is, of course, slow. While Slowpoke itself has better physical than special stats, The two evolutionary choices offer a choice between a focus on physical defense and special attack or on special attack and special defense.


    Current moveset: Curse, Tackle, Confusion, Surf
    HMs available: Surf, Strength, Flash, (Slowking only) Whirlpool

    Ideal Slowpoke/Slowbro moveset: Curse?, Headbutt, Psychic, Surf

    Slowbro's available moves are the same as Slowpoke's except that at the minimum level for evolving into Slowbro (37) it also learns Withdraw, which...seems pretty useless. (It doesn't combo with any other move, unlike Defense Curl with Rollout.)

    Amnesia in this gen now increases only special defense by two stages, rather than "special" (which in gen 1 was used for both special attack and defense). So it's not as useful anymore.

    This moveset gives three type coverages. The decently-poweful Headbutt (albeit with a low-ish physical base stat) serves as a utility move and a backup attack. As for special moves, Water Gun is replaced with Surf, which is just as accurate but far more powerful, and Confusion of course is replaced with a naturally-learned Psychic.

    Curse, which might be less effective as Slowwhatever has to go second basically, could even be swapped out for another HM move.

    Ideal Slowking moveset: Curse/Swagger?, Headbutt, Psychic, Surf

    Slowking, meanwhile, is a stone evolution in this hack but (since it was a trade evolution originally) is still capable of learning moves, and at the same rate as Slowpoke, even. The only differences is that Amnesia is swapped out for Swagger, which confuses the opponent and raises their attack stat by two stages, potentially making self-inflicted hits more devastating. It's not completely accurate though is at least decently so (90%).

    Again though its slot seems like the weakest link in case I want to sub it out for an HM move.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Current BOX1 contents:

    Slugma L21 [Fire]
    53HP, 28/27/37/24/16
    Current moveset: Smog, Ember, Rock Throw

    Drowzee L22 [Psychic]
    64HP, 32/30/32/52/27
    Current moveset: Pound, Hypnosis, Disable, Confusion

    Krabby L22 [Water]
    49HP, 54/50/18/18/32
    Current moveset: Bubble, Leer, Vicegrip, Harden

    Weepinbell L22 [Grass/Poison]
    69HP, 50/34/49/32/35
    Current moveset: Vine Whip, PoisonPowder, Wrap, Sleep Powder

    Koffing L22 [Poison]
    55HP, 42/55/37/30/23
    Current moveset: Poison Gas, Tackle, Sludge, Selfdestruct

    Ekans L21 [Poison]
    52HP, 37/30/28/34/37
    Current moveset: Wrap, Leer, Poison Sting, Bite

    Meowth L22 [Normal]
    58HP, 28/28/31/31/50
    Current moveset: Scratch, Growl, Bite, Pay Day

    Growlithe L21 [Fire]
    63HP, 37/28/42/34/37
    Current moveset: Bite, Roar, Ember, Leer

    Quilava L22 [Fire]
    60HP, 38/39/43/37/47
    Current moveset: Cut, Quick Attack, Smokescreen, Ember

    Ledyba L8 [Bug/Flying]
    26HP, 9/12/14/20/16
    Current moveset: Tackle, Supersonic, Flash

    Gastly L21 [Ghost/Poison]
    51HP, 29/23/56/28/47
    Hypnosis, Night Shade, Curse, Mean Look

    Magnemite L21 [Electric]
    44HP, 26/38/46/29/27
    Tackle, Thundershock, Thunder Wave, Sonicboom

    Houndour L21 [Fire/Dark]
    55HP, 34/26/47/34/40
    Bite, Ember, Roar, Smog

    Geodude L22 [Rock/Ground]
    52HP, 45/56/25/25/21
    Tackle, Selfdestruct, Rock Throw, Magnitude

    Psyduck L22 [Water]
    64HP, 36/30/40/34/34
    Scratch, Tail Whip, Disable, Confusion

    Ivysaur L24 [Grass/Poison]
    72HP, 38/41/46/46/41
    Tackle, Sleep Powder, Leech Seed, Razor Leaf

    Croconaw L25 [Water]
    72HP, 51/49/46/48/44
    Scratch, Bite, Rage, Water Gun
  • edited 2022-12-08 07:34:48
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    wrote up Machop. i'm gonna be editing these slowly and little by little

    edit: and Togepi
    edit: and Slowpoke

    edit: handy links to have (edit URL to get base stats and movesets)

    base stats link
    gen 2 learnset link

    I'll get to the rest later
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    I wonder whether I should make a separate thread for this planning stuff.
  • There is love everywhere, I already know
    Eh, probably not.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Actually I just showed up to make a new thread for it. I guess alternatively I could make a Google Doc or Pastebin for it instead...
  • edited 2022-12-11 16:49:29
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Oh no, I realized I've forgotten to log (on my papers) various things I've caught before. So far I've already found two: Gloom and Golbat.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    also somehow i derped and listed Venomoth under Pokédex #111 because it was Receipt #111 lawl

    anyway let me just post this here then


    Pokédex and Moveset Planner

    It's not complete right now but I'm gonna start moving stuff into that document.
  • edited 2022-12-11 17:17:55
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Considering a new policy: Don't catch higher-stage evolutions of pokémon I've already caught, with the following exceptions:

    (A) the higher-stage evolution is underleveled, in which case there's novelty value
    (B) the pokémon is distinctive in some other way (e.g. shiny)
    (C) it's the endgame and I just want to finish the pokédex already (we're nowhere near there yet)
    (D) the pokémon I already have is a baby pokémon (e.g. it's okay to catch Clefairy even if I already have Cleffa)
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    another possible exception to the above: Kadabra, which learns Kinesis at level...1. Which means it's only there if caught wild, and only on Kanto Route 8.

    anyway I added a bunch more movesets and commentary to that doc.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    I think I found an oversight in my dex count. I don't have Gloom yet...in this playthrough. I caught it in my previous one. But I haven't even seen it yet in this playthrough.

    The math works out right without it -- 102 records in-game, 112 records in my own recordkeeping -- which includes separate records for each of 11 Unowns, which only count as one each, so minus 10. 112 - 10 = 102.

    And I checked the rest of the records I have. Yep, that seems to fix everything, except for what's on my paper. Time to look for an eraser.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Record #111: Venomoth

    I just realized that this is probably also very underleveled. I didn't notice at the time, but yeah. It's in the vanilla game too. Johto Route 43 has a 5% encounter rate for level 17 Venomoth at night...and Venomoth evolves from Venonat at level 31.
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