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How easily the mind can be swayed by sex drive.

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  • Because you never know what you might see.
    There's nothing to argue against, because there's no reason anybody would go through with your sci-fi procedure.  It doesn't resemble sex in any of the crucial respects with regard to why people actually have sex, only in superficial respects.
  • basically from 13-18 is when your sex drive first kicks in, and it kicks in in force. Couple that with that youth generally correlates to not having all the necessary education, and you're looking at the only time in your life where sex drive really is a force to be reckoned with.

    If you're still having problems with it by the time you reach 20 though, then you're stupid.

    Have you seen the frequency of casual sex in many people's college years, man?
  • edited 2011-06-30 10:16:30
    no longer cuddly, but still Edmond
    You know what? Fine. You don't get it. You think making whoopee just for kicks is awwright. Whatever. But if I ever see an IJBM topic called "the condom broke" or "I had an unplanned pregnancy" or "I actually don't know jack shit about raising children," I'm going to post in it just to remind you that if you had listened to me, you wouldn't be in whatever mess you're in right now. You could've avoided it, but you thought a couple of minutes of pleasure--pleasure which, by the way, can be faked using your right hand--outweighed the long-term consequences.

    The sad thing is that "casual sex" is such a huge part of our culture that I've known people to do it again and again, constantly be bitten in the ass by the consequences, but keep doing it anyway, and then turn around and defend it on all sorts of Penn and Teller-esque high-falutin' moral grounds--ideals I'm sure were far from their heads when they were in the backseat of that car.

    As they say, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
  • Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    sure is holier than thou in here
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    You can also refuse to lead a horse to water when it's thirsty, and it will likely protest.
  • Implying holier than thou isn't the usual.
  • I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    @MoeDantes

    When you get RSI from masturbating too much or your partner leaves you due to never getting any I'll jump in your threads and berate you for your lifestyle choice etc etc.

    Or I wouldn't because it would be a massive dick move.

    Also you mainly seem to moaning about the risks of sex, everything has risks, life has risks etc.
    People are constantly taking risks doing everything and casual sex has many factors that make it low risk.
    I mean you could say driving is as bad as casual sex, you can be prepared and prevent stuff by driving not drunk and wearing a seatbelt however if some other careless driver fucks you, you get consequences.


  • no longer cuddly, but still Edmond
    You know what the problem with comparing sex to driving a car is?

    The whole point of driving a car is to go somewhere. This is not a "risk," this is what you're trying to do in the first place.

    The whole point of sex is to make a baby. This is not a "risk," this is what you're trying to do in the first place.

    Or it would be, except that all these fucked-up ideas have dilluted it. Seriously, having sex without intending to make a baby is like playing Mega Man 2 and not trying to beat Dr. Wily or his minions.

    Which reminds me of something--remember a few minutes ago when I said you can "fake" the pleasure of sex with your right hand (and excuse me if I'm going into uncomfortable territory here)? Well, that's always struck me as bizarre. I mean, think about it, when you really like something you want more of it, right? I like my fudge-stripped cookies, so when I'm done eating one I want another. When I play a great video game I want to play it again and do better. But with sex? The minute you've satisfied your drive, its gone, you don't want it anymore. Those steamy anime you were watching suddenly just look stupid.

    In that sense, the "sex drive" is more like a drug addiction--an addiction that can easily be displaced in a no-cost, no-risk way. Which is yet another reason why letting it influence your decisions is dirt-stupid.
  • edited 2011-06-30 10:43:02
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    The "drive" in "sex drive" is not the "drive" in "drive a car".

    > The whole point of sex is to make a baby. This is not a "risk," this is what you're trying to do in the first place.

    Not quite.

    At least in humans and dolphins and some other species, individuals have sex because it's pleasurable.

    It just happens to be a clever gambit that also propagates the species along the way.
  • edited 2011-06-30 10:45:24
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    ^^



    At least in humans and dolphins and some other species, individuals have sex because it's pleasurable.

    It just happens to be a clever gambit that also propagates the species along the way.

    Ah, Glenn, you forget,
    Or it would be, except that all these fucked-up ideas have dilluted it
    Come on, man.  Common sense.
  • no longer cuddly, but still Edmond
    Glenn, you're not making sense.

    Ian said I was moaning about the "risks" of sex, which he compared to the risks you face when driving a car.

    The only "risks" I moaned about were childbirth. I showed Ian that his analogy didn't work because he's comparing something that should be the whole point of the activity, to something that is not necessarily a regular part of its respective activity.
  • edited 2011-06-30 10:50:18
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    @Moe

    You can drive for pleasure, in which case the point for that is pleasure!
    With sex the point can be pleasure and the risk can be of having a child!
    Or for the forward thinking paedophile the child is a pleasure too.

    The whole point of the sexual pleasure from your view is to encourage breeding, as that is the whole point. You really shouldn't be masturbating as that isn't the point Moe! :p
    Also anime always looks stupid.

    Really right not we are just arguing viewpoints I doubt either of us will change, neither is more right than the other.

    In Chagen Car porn it is.
  • Because you never know what you might see.
    Moe, you're in a hole already.  Keep digging at this pace and you'll be hitting magma by evening.

    You are making so many assumptions I don't even know where to begin.  Perhaps you could start by considering the possibility that people are rather more complex than you're making them out to be?
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Just dismiss my driving comment; that was there just because I thought the line sounded cool.

    That said, the rest of my comment still stands.  In probably a majority of cases, people don't engage in sexual activity for reproductive purposes, they engage in it for pleasure.
  • edited 2011-06-30 10:49:52
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Yes, the biological reason for sexual intercourse is reproduction.  That does not mean that it is each individual's conscious reason for sexual intercourse.
  • I think he's not trying to talk about the reason they have personally though.
  • edited 2011-06-30 10:54:01
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    You know what Moe, you've changed my outlook on life.

    I'm never going to eat food I like again, because the purpose of eating is to obtain vital nutrients, and eating food that I like puts me at risk of obesity.

    I'm never going to masturbate, because the purpose of ejaculation is to make babies, and that defies the purpose if it's going to waste.

    I'm never going to just drive around the neighborhood because I like to drive again, because the purpose of driving is to go places, and I might accidentally hit a dog or something.

    I'm never going to sleep for longer than exactly eight hours a day ever again, because sleeping in is not the purpose of sleep, and I might get bedsores or some shit.
  • edited 2011-06-30 10:54:13
    Because you never know what you might see.
    ^^ No, he's assuming it's a stupid reason, because hey, why have sex when you could get the same effect by masturbating instead?
  • I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    ^
    Well at least with masturbating you know what you like and the dates are so much cheaper.
  • Because you never know what you might see.
    >I'm never going to masturbate, because the purpose of ejaculation is to make babies, and that defies the purpose if it's going to waste.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kJHQpvgB8
  • no longer cuddly, but still Edmond
    You know what Moe, you've changed my outlook on life.

    I'm never going to eat food I like again, because the purpose of eating is to obtain vital nutrients, and eating food that I like puts me at risk of obesity.


    What if the food you like does have vital nutrients?

    I'm never going to masturbate, because the purpose of ejaculation is to make babies, and that defies the purpose if it's going to waste.


    No no no no no, the purpose of sex is to make babies. Masturbation is more like a form of garbage disposal, no different than crapping.

    I'm never going to just drive around the neighborhood because I like to drive again, because the purpose of driving is to go places, and I might accidentally hit a dog or something.


    And with the way gas prices have been lately, can you really afford to cruise for thrills?

    I'm never going to sleep for longer than exactly eight hours a day ever again, because sleeping in is not the purpose of sleep, and I might get bedsores or some shit.


    I'm actually pretty sure sleeping is the purpose of sleep.

    I love it when people's attempts to mock me actually turn out in my favor.
  • I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    No no no no no, the purpose of sex is to make babies. Masturbation is more like a form of garbage disposal, no different than crapping.

    You say this but my girlfriend doesn't let me crap on her tits.
  • @Moe-bro: Not to get too personal, but do you practice the celibacy you advocate IRL? Is it voluntarily(cos the rant smacks of sour grapes)?

  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    I'm actually pretty sure sleeping is the purpose of sleep.

    No more than 8 hours of sleep is required.
  • Psychology needs satiation as well.
  • edited 2011-06-30 11:21:02
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    ITT: SOUR GRAPES SOUR GRAPES EVERYWHERE
  • no longer cuddly, but still Edmond
    Not to get too personal, but do you practice the celibacy you advocate IRL? Is it voluntarily(cos the rant smacks of sour grapes)?


    *raises eyebrow at the sour grapes implication*

    Yes I'm celibate and yes its voluntary.

    I've seen what happens to people who have wild nights of pleasure. It has never turned out well for them, and I don't want to go down that same road.
  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    I dunno, I'm feelin' pretty good about all the sex I had in college.
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