How easily the mind can be swayed by sex drive.

Forzare

That Shinji doesn't fuck a bitch though. Well it's not mentioned if he did, anyway. I think.

He fucks [his sister].  And he's apparently pretty popular with the ladies.

And in one of the routes he outright gets saved for being...I don't know. Why was he saved again?

He did get hit pretty hard in the one route he lives in.  And it says he became a better person, so idk lol

vacasama

^^ That's sounds like there's story somewhere.

AHR

Vaca: Not really, I casually mentioned mutual masturbation or something to that extent, and she was all O_o what I don't understand does not compute.

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But his sister isn't a bitch. Well not during that time, since she doesn't have white hair and magical tentacle clothes yet.

Well I suppose she is a "bitch" (in the sense of shit like "i'll make you my bitch") based on how she's locked under that creepy grandpa, but I kind of doubt that's what you meant when you posted that image.

MoeDantes

I would agree with Dantes if he calmed down a little bit.

Don't take this the wrong way but hearing that from you is rather ironic.

Vorpy

OBEY

Forzare

^^ He makes a valid point, though.  People aren't reacting so much to your beliefs as they are to your hilariously over the top attitude.

^^^ I didn't really mean anything by it.  I just felt like posting that since a Shinji was mentioned and it was a sort-of-on-topic shitpost.

Also, [Sakura] is totally Shinji's bitch.

In a not good way.

^

Crimson

If your trying to mind control me via fanservice, you're going to have to do way better than that.

Iaculus

Sorry, I was going to post in this thread, but I kept getting distracted by that fine, fine ass across the street.

Mmm... burrolicious.

LouieW

Iaculus

I agree with this, but I do not think that pleasure is generally a good reason to do something so I have some bias there.

You don't have hobbies, then?

MoeDantes

Is it just me or did Louie's post disappear?

Iaculus, I think what he meant was that there are times when you need a better reason than just pleasure.

I mean, I think popping hydrocodone pills is fun, but I don't ever do it without serious consideration first.

Iaculus

Another bad analogy. Hydrocodone has severe, largely-unavoidable side-effects. Meanwhile, the risks of having sex for pleasure can be considerably reduced. Would you begrudge someone who, say, mountain-bikes for fun?

MoeDantes

Not sure how the mountain-biking analogy is any better and the hydrocodone analogy.

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Mountain biking is safer/has more easily avoidable consequences, I believe.

I've never actually went mountain biking though and idk what hydrocodone is anyway.

MoeDantes

Hydrocodone (generic form of Lortab) is a prescription painkiller. Basically, its Super Saiyan Tylenol. It is known to also induce euphoria, which is why some people get addicted to it.

The problem with all these "casual sex is okay" analogies is people keep overlooking the main point: to have casual sex you have to find ways to intentionally cripple sex so it doesn't do what its supposed to do, while the "risks" of mountain-biking or whatever are things that are NOT part of the design. Since this has become a game of who can make the worse analogies: its like trying to play Tetris and intentionally not wipe out rows of blocks.

IanExMachina

A lot of things we do are not things our body was explicitly designed to do.

Why should changing the purpose of sex be such a huge difference?

MoeDantes

Let me see if I can explain this:

Sex SHOULD be a big thing. It should be a huge, momentous occasion that feels really special when it finally happens. The effect of making it casual takes it from this lofty position, to something mundane. And call me crazy but it seems like that's almost a metaphor for society in general.

Think about it this way: if you only go to a party once a year, then its that big awesome thing you look forward to. But if you go to one every other week, it gets dull. And some things should simply not be allowed to get dull.

This is in addition to all the other problems I've mentioned, mind.

InsanityAddict

Romanticizing it isn't the answer either. It tacks on way too many false expectations.

MoeDantes

Perhaps, but "false expectations" aren't really that big a problem in the long run.

Vorpy

Perhaps, but "false expectations" aren't really that big a problem in the long run.

They are.

InsanityAddict

Varies from couple to couple. The awkwardness that a bad first time can put over the relationship is not to be underestimated.

 

IanExMachina

> Sex SHOULD be a big thing. It should be a huge, momentous occasion that feels really special when it finally happens.

Why?

MoeDantes

For one thing, as I've constantly harped on, the possible (and indeed purposeful) result of sex is creating new life. That is simply not something you should go into lightly, no more than you should murder someone without serious consideration.

Secondly, because I think that some things should be put on pedestals. Currently we've become a society which sees everything as just "eh," and that's created a culture of apathy around just about everything. I feel a little nuts saying this, but this is one of the few things religion is right about--we need to believe in certain things.

Thirdly, I can't help but feel that if you romanticize it, that causes people to think more deeply about it and make less bad decisions. You can almost see this, for example, in the case of marriage--somebody on this forum once pointed out that arranged marriages, which are planned in advance and which those in the arrangement are taught to look forward to, tend to work out better overall than "marriage for love," which turns out to be a disaster again and again (indeed, marriage for love is practically what invented divorce).

Actually that third one has so many problems with it that I'm surprised I can spot them all, but I think I know what I'm trying to say so I'll just run with it.

InsanityAddict

I'd argue further, but I have a party to attend which will probably be spend working the fryer and staying sober in order to move fucktons of grass in the morning because the activities committee decided to have a lawn in the frat bar.  And no, having those each week doesn't lessen the fun.

 

MoeDantes

You know what? I'm not entirely satisfied with my last post. I'm declaring it DisContinuity.

Vivi

Actually, I would say in America, sex is put on too high of a pedestal, in the sense that we don't talk about it commonly enough. If we did, teen and overall pregnancy rates would decrease, STD rate would decrease.

glennmagusharvey

> Sex SHOULD be a big thing. It should be a huge, momentous occasion that feels really special when it finally happens.

Nothing about nature says that this ought to happen either.

Iaculus

Damn straight. I mean, just look at bonobos. For them, casual sex is their way of saying 'hello'.

Also, what would you say gay sex is supposed to do? And, on an unrelated note, why was it marriage for love that gave birth to divorce rather than, say, problems with domestic abuse?

Ponicalica

«Perhaps, but "false expectations" aren't really that big a problem in the long run.»

Tell that to all the couples who divorced because of false expectations.  And their kids.