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"I pay for you, be my slave."

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  • edited 2011-06-25 13:07:35
    ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    If that's the case he should be contacting somebody to help him then rather than telling us. I COULD call the child protection agency and get his crazy dad and his harpy mother sent to jail, but I don't even know who he is so it's not like I could help him anyway.

    which obviously sets a precedent that such a thing has happened before or been threatened.

    The reason I don't believe him is because sympathy trolling. Why in the hell didn't he mention this in the OP and only waited until people disagreed with him to mention it? It's like people mentioning the problem after people tell them to stop worrying.

    I remember awhile ago there was something with his dad threatening to hit him too but that suddenly turned into a retcon for this new crazy political dad thing he has now, and I was still wondering what the fuck happened between him and his dad but he refused to reply to anyone at all or comment on that whole thing, so I said fuck it and called trollnanigans.

    Vorpy: Appeal to Worse Problems. Come back when you don't have a a fallacious argument.

    And you are a hypocrite. Your argument is invalid. See? I can use empty logic to dismiss arguments too. I R DE SMART AND I WIN AGUMINTZ.

    Now tell me, is your dad actually hitting you or not? You totally ignored me when I was asking that a while ago in March or whatever.
  • Vorpy: He used to, frequently, but he doesn't as much now, saying that I'm "too old for it". He was always political, but I never really noticed it until I started posting on TVT.
  • $80+ per session
    By the way it sounds, Chagen might be confusing beating, with getting a spanking.
  • I do find it weird how spanking tends to be dismissed though, since it still is violence against children a lot of the time.
  • ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    Violent spanking, yes, where it's done to inflict pain out of anger, rather than used as a feint consequence, since most children can cry and be shocked over the stupidest things, like being found when hiding from their parents or being told no when trying to buy candy, or even being pulled away from somewhere.

    Spanking isn't meant to hurt them or leave bruises or damage, but most of the time people just went "They won't learn anything if it doesn't hurt."
  • Your parents DO own you.

    They feed you, clothe you and do EVERYTHING for you. Don't like it? Leave.

    Can't leave? Tough shit.
  • edited 2011-06-25 15:55:58

    ... (and here I was thinking this was actually going to be an interesting topic about labour relationships. That's what I get for coming off reading Homage To Catalonia)

    May I have a primary source? Like having your parents actually post here?

  • Conductor: Going by that logic, when I have kids, I have full right to abuse them. Glad to know you condone child abuse.
  • May I have a primary source? Like having your parents actually post here?
  • We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year
    Well, that is the logical conclusion to be made from that line of logic.
  • Chagen: Do not put words in my mouth. Ever. I didn't say that. I never ONCE said they have the right to abuse you. I said they own you, because they do.

    I own a dog, it doesn't mean I can beat it.
  • edited 2011-06-25 16:27:06
    We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year
    I own a dog, it doesn't mean I can beat it.


    >comparing a parent-child relationship to an owner-pet one
  • edited 2011-06-25 20:07:46
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    You see it has abuse. But do they touch you? Do they not give you food, clothing, and education?

    Yes (but not sexually, just like, throwing me around and smashing my head into stuff), no, no, I pay for it, respectively.

    Do I have a right to complain?
  • Yes. But you don't. Much.

    Funny how that works out.
  • If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    I know.

    Just thought I'd point this out.
  • $80+ per session
    That sucks, Cygan. I would say you have way more right to sympathy than Chagen does. But you don't fish for it anywhere near as much as he does. Funny how that works.
  • Oh for the love of god Guys Chagen is just asking for a little udnerstanding. is it too much to ask for sovereignty from ones parents?
  • Sure. The first time. Which was wayyyy back in the original ijbm, if I recall.
  • This is actually one of the few times that I'll have to agree with Chagen...

    Of course, you have to remember that Chagen isn't exactly good at getting the point he wants across, typically getting it fettered up in argument...

    I will remind you all that I have what appears to be the same problem with my parents (a little bit more extreme, but still, along the same lines), neither of them listen to me, and my father uses whatever avenue he can for control, this very excuse being one of them. It would be hypocritical for you to tell him to just deal with it and then give me support on a different thread.

    I will simply ask Chagen to elaborate a little more on the situation, since it seems that there might be more to this than meets the eye, and hopefully this will stop being an argument and more about support. After all, this is a place for venting about things that bug you, doesn't this count?
  • We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, For the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year
    It would be hypocritical for you to tell him to just deal with it and then give me support on a different thread.


    They've never let that stop them before, why would they now?
  • I didn't plan on stopping them, Wicked. Mostly just throwing it out there and hoping for the best.

    Like a molotov at a Witch.
  • When in Turkey, ROCK THE FUCK OUT
    Don't worry, guys! I do neither! 
  • BURN THE WITCH!
  • I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    The witch is the hottest character in the L4D series.
  • edited 2011-06-25 21:35:28
    They're somethin' else.
    Ok. Chagen.

    Tell us specifically what your parents do to you or have done to you that is so horrible. Tells us in specifics, in a list and leave out no details, and most of all, DO NOT EXAGGERATE. We want to know. We need to know, if we want to stop condescending you.

    I'm all ears. Tell me.
  • edited 2011-06-25 21:34:47
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    ^ This.

    Without hyperbole, though. Just tell it how it is.
  • I think Miles and Tnu, have got it right. I think we have a slight miscommunication here.

    Anyway, most of my annoyance at my parents comes from our ideological differences. Most of what we do is argue, it was only during my earlier years that they actually beat me, though my mom still goes crazy every once in a while--last time was today.

    My dad still pushes his right-wing bullshit and my brother refuses to do anything useful, like get a job or go to school, despite getting a 15-year-old girl pregnant with 4 children. Not to mention I'm more terrified of him than either of my parents. Even though he lives 5 miles from us.

    Looking back on it, the only things my parents do is push their beliefs on me and refuse to respect my wishes sometimes. And the intermittent arguing and the fact that my mom can scare the shit out of me (even though I prefer her to my dad).
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