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Deep web sounds like a shitty porno more than anything.
Well I'm sure you can find plenty of shitty pornos there, most of them are probably also illegal.
everyone_on_tor.wmv
Neh, my real problem with tumblr social justice folk is mostly the absurd lengths they seem to go to in order to immunize themselves from criticism. I mean it's pretty much a drinking game of how often you can find a "yes, it's okay to be an asshole to anybody and everybody if X has happened to you, and nothing folks say to the contrary matters". Which is stupid really. Anger is understandable. Acting it out onto random chucklefucks on the internet who probably haven't done anything to you is stupid.
Well that and the big tendency to gloss over classism in their social justice talk. Because no matter your gender or race, poverty really sucks and it's difficult to get out of most times no matter who you are.
Also they really like to abuse that one Dave Chapelle quote and I'm pretty sure none of them really appreciate the concept of privilege as it was originally described anyway.
The most annoying thing I encounter on tumblr is "if you don't reblog this you're a horrible person", where I proceed to not reblog it out of principle.
A huge flaw of a large part of the American left is their tendency to put too little attention towards class issues and focus on racism, never mind the fact that it's basically classism that gave birth to domestic racism. I think I even made a thread about this once.
Yes, you did.
American reluctance to discuss classism related to American reluctance to discuss salary with co-workers? Must investigate further.
There is a post that has been making the rounds for a while that says something along the lines of
"Steps to become an SJW
And now you are hated just because you pointed something is fucked up with the way society works"
And while I entirely agree with the fact that they are right about the fact that society is pretty fucked up, I just hate the general smarminess and the implication that the reason why people are annoyed with this sort of people is not that they're wrong but the general belittling that comes with it.
Well in America the classism was compounded by imperialism and xenophobia over the years.
Sure, but both are products of the capitalist war machine.
One could also argue that the Western brand of xenophobia is a form of classism in itself, if we look at the global population on a macro level, due to complexes of civilizational and material superiority that go hand-in-hand with it.
I think I have a certain affinity towards internet communities, I tend to like them for silly reasons. That said...
Yeah, this has bothered me, too. I think it's part of the nerds hating nerds thing, as they say.
Ah, and Jethro, I remember him being pretty swell, too, never even taking things personally. Though that was years ago and Tumblr wasn't popularly known as the SJL thing, so it'd be unsurprising if he turned into a keyboard warrior.
Also, Jethro, Glenn and Bobby used to blend in my mind back then.
I thought he was Finnish. (Maybe I confused him with somebody else yet again?)
@Stormtroper: Yeah, he's Finnish. That's one reason why I'm mad at him---unless he's lived here I don't trust him to know what would fix the U.S. best, as prejudiced as that may sound, though it's mainly a matter of experience/familiarity.
@Myrmidon: ...Really? Really, Goons?
I like tumblr.
^^ Ahh, that makes sense.
Heh heh, you got me here, sometimes folks, like, can't wrap their minds around that idea.
I don't know, sometimes distance can give you a clearer perspective on things.
Besides, US policy has massive global ramifications, so it's only fair that everyone can have their own opinion on it.
WHOOP DOUBLEPOST.
That's a good point.
I wish he could be more positive and less angry/stuffy about it, though.
SOLVE ALL OF THE PROBLEMS! SOLVE ALL OF THE PROBLEMS AT ONCE! TELL PEOPLE HOW GUILTY THEY SHOULD BE WITHOUT CONTEXT, HISTORY, OR ANYTHING ELSE!
I've never gotten that feeling from Jethro. He's fairly mild as SJW types go.
I ended up unfollowing Anne because of how stereotypical she got, but I haven't unfollowed Jethro.
Mrrrr.
Let's steer the convo back away from Jethro for now, if at least for Alex's sensibilities.
Apparently Reddit wasn't always a mosh pit---back some years ago r/atheism and r/Christianity had a friendly competition to see who could raise the most charity money.
Then r/atheism more recently got a rep as an angry, vitriolic Hellhole. What happened? Eternal September lay down its wrath or something?
If you need to wave your credentials as an atheist around on the internet, you are probably not a good person.
Growth probably. Reddit got really popular really fast, and statistically that should have brought in a ton of assholes. Along with perpetually incompetent moderation, those assholes were allowed to to roam free and influencing some of the more impressionable people there, combined with people not willing to argue with them for various reasons, we get an echo chamber effect that results in...well r/atheism.
Come to think of it, that's exactly what happened with Tv Tropes.
I'm going to paraphrase a non-member here, one Corporal Forsythe, who some of you might know as the mind behind Listening to 11.975 MHz.
He's also one of the few conservative Heapers, and he's got some good insights. One of the ones I agree with most is that the minute people on a site start identifying themselves as members of that site first, it's about time to go. You can see this happen with Tropers, Goons, 4channers, pretty much any large site.
^ Does this apply to smaller sites?
I'm sure some of them it does.
Not this one so much. We do have some issues but I don't think that's one of them.
I still want to hear about that, and I think we could have a reasonable discussion about it.
About what?