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Samus being a bounty hunter

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  • He who laments and can't let go of the past is forever doomed to solitude.
    Pirates have to be destroyed, there's no doubt, it still doesn't mean that other groups won't try and use the metroids themselves, the galactic federation has done that already.
  • Because she's never been implied to Bounty Hunt before.. means she can't do it in the future?

    She was never implied to be in fear of Ridley before :3

    @Alex. Metroids can be cloned by the pirates... So eliminating the Metroids wasn't even a good tactic.
  • One foot in front of the other, every day.
    If cloning's par for the course, then nothing will eliminate the Metroids. Unless someone was to track them all down, destroy them, and then destroy all data concerning them. And then kill everyone with knowledge of them. Everyone.

    That said, I do not feel bad in the slightest about slaughtering them en masse. Suckers gunna get iced.
  • edited 2011-09-27 13:09:02
    He who laments and can't let go of the past is forever doomed to solitude.
    In Metroid II, the last few metroids left were the ones on the planet, after the hatchling was cloned by the federation, then they began to be widespread again.
  • One foot in front of the other, every day.
    Wasn't it the Pirates that cloned them, thus how widespread they were on Zebes after a certain point?
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    1. I think that she's a bounty hunter basically by technicality.  She's probably done some bounty hunting work before.  Most likely before or after she worked directly with the Federation, she was an independent contractor for the Federation.  I mean, after all, she has to pay her bills in some way, right?  Having access to an amazing ship and insane firepower does make her a prime job candidate for these kinds of dangerous duties--especially when we're talking about outer-space bounty-hunting in a multi-sentient-species universe.

    2. The games, on the other hand, are pretty much mercenary work, or in the case of Fusion, mercenary work gone awry.due to the details of the mission.  She is definitely NOT there to capture any fugitives--not like Kraid and Ridley would be up for that anyway.  Especially Ridley, as he seems to be quite bloodthirsty.

    3. I really liked that video about Other M.  Thanks, @MadassAlex.  I haven't played Other M, but I've definitely heard a lot about the premise, as well as a lot of criticisms of the game, so I've wondered what was wrong with it.  That commentary acknowledged that the premise was a good idea, but the execution was not done well, and this was the missing link.

    4. I don't think crying should be a big part of Samus's characterization, except when used very, very, very sparingly in very special circumstances.  She's gotten used to living alone, not so much projecting strength as not projecting anything at all, really.  I don't remember why this was mentioned but whatever.

    5.
    > I could have forgiven a lot. But goddamn that voice actress. She had no ability to emote. None. At all.
    She was actually told specifically to use an unemotional tone in her voice-acting, so it's not her fault.  For some commentary from the "real" Jessica Martin, see this video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOZeapJn9z8 .  Here is Jessica Martin singing: www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3WPpD5IyTM

    6.
    > Metroid II - Actually I've never been clear on if Samus was hired
    to exterminate the Metroids or if it was entirely a personal mission
    after she had a "fuck I never want to go through Torian again" reaction.
    I think she was hired for it, but you're right, neither Super nor Fusion actually confirms it.
    For reference: Super intro: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls5uo4xidwQ , Fusion intro: www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLLgZfhAZ7M

    7.
    > Metroid Prime was great because it tapped into the atmosphere, isolation
    and mystery that made the originals so powerful. With the addition of
    the scan feature, it also meant that it could tell a story via fragments
    and implication, which was very in-character for the series.
    This.  I didn't really enjoy the series early on, but I definitely enjoyed the half or so that I've played of Prime so far.  I REALLY, REALLY like the use of the scan visor to provide fragmented details about the story, setting, and backstory.

    I also really like the music and atmosphere of Prime and Fusion.  ZM's music is also great, though the atmosphere isn't as good.
  • You can change. You can.
    Because she's never been implied to Bounty Hunt before.. means she can't do it in the future?
    She was never implied to be in fear of Ridley before :3

    Welp, when you're using something you yourself consider a bad characterization device as an argument as to why another characterization device is good because they have the same characteristic, then...yeah
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    > If cloning's par for the course, then nothing will eliminate the
    Metroids. Unless someone was to track them all down, destroy them, and
    then destroy all data concerning them. And then kill everyone with
    knowledge of them. Everyone.

    I think metroid extermination programs would be put on review after the events of Fusion.

    > She was never implied to be in fear of Ridley before :3

    This happened explicitly in the Metroid manga.
  • One foot in front of the other, every day.
    > manga

    There's your issue.

    Besides, it directly contradicts the games. By the time Other M rolls around, she's defeated him at least five times or so. What's one more?
  • You can change. You can.
    >Metroid manga
    >Used as a serious argument

    come on, glenn, not even i'm that dumb.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    > As for Chozo biology, that's a new one to me. I thought she was
    essentially just human? The way I hear it, Chozo technologies were
    responsible for her recovery rather than literal genetic engineering.

    We know very, very little about how Chozo biotech works, so it could presumably be just about anything.

    Also, by the end of Fusion, she's part-human, part-chozo, part-metroid, and part-X.  Meanwhile, Ridley is a zombie clone cyborg vampire space pirate dragon enforcer, who is also part-X.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    > Besides, it directly contradicts the games. By the time Other M rolls
    around, she's defeated him at least five times or so. What's one more?

    Where does it?

    Also, that event in the manga happens canonically before any of the games, so it makes some more sense that she steeled her resolve to defeat him.

    Also, the whole Grey Voice thing is from the manga anyway.

    @Juan_Carlos: What's wrong with using that?
  • $80+ per session
    Samus is mai waifu
  • You can change. You can.
    because the manga is pretty much on a continuity of its own.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Wait it is?
  • But you never had any to begin with.
    The manga sets up to Zero Mission, so...
  • You can change. You can.
    I said "pretty much"

    characterization and interpretation of events are quite different.

    also, i'm only going by second hand info, so don't quote me on that.
  • $80+ per session
    What Juan said.

    Like the manga of Kingdom Hearts. It sets up the basic events, and how they pretty much happened, but all the added drama and comedy (and fanservice) is not really in the game.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    So she doesn't hang out with two losers, and she doesn't go around her ship wearing only a swimsuit, and she never freaked out at the sight of Ridley?

    What's the world coming to?  At this rate, they're gonna...

    ...

    ...BRING BACK FAKE KRAID!

    ...Y'know, if they ever do that, they ought to make him actually look like real Kraid, or look like NES Kraid.  Either one.
  • no longer cuddly, but still Edmond
    Hear that children? Bounty Hunting is bad, but Genocide against the metroids... a living species is awwwright.


    And keep in mind, Samus couldn't even go through with it--that widdle baby metroid was just so kewt.

    Apparently in her mind slaughtering the big, killer metroids was okay, but she couldn't bring herself to kill the baby (and Super Metroid makes it explicit that it was personal choice this time--she wasn't explicitly under orders to bring back a sample).

    Also, Moe Dantes is funny, the only games after super metroid are Fusion and Other M, Metroid Prime happens way before that.

    He didn't specify did he? Assumptions have no place when arguing.


    I actually did make it clear what I meant. And acting like a dipshit doesn't help your credibility much.
  • edited 2011-09-28 21:07:16
     
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Mod voice:
    If you don't like Dantes's arguments, target his arguments, not him.  Thank you.

    As for Other M, it seems that how good it is doesn't yet have consensus, but there is a lot of reports that there may be consistency issues between Samus's story and character in Other M and in the rest of the series's continuity.
  • Samus.. the one who has travelled worlds and destroyed them single-handedly... has been "shown" to be co-dependant in Other M.

    ???
  • One foot in front of the other, every day.
    I think the East/West split in characterisation is pretty interesting in this case.

    I wonder if Japanese gamers were more accepting of Other M?
  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    I think even by Eastern standards Other M fails at basic storytelling techniques even if the Samus' characterization didn't offend.

    And there is a strong feminist movement in Japan, though they're probably more concerned with bigger issues than bad characterization in a vidya.
  • You can change. You can.
    but it's Japan! Aren't they all about VGs!
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