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trollrecommendation images by Smokie.Out of curiosity, what does "required" mean in this context? Essential to understanding the history of the development of the genre? The tropes of the genre at its most exemplary?
That is all.
To be fair to the exposition, they had to put things in dialogue that was otherwise found only in narration. On the other hand, the expository dialogue is one reason that the series loses some rewatch value. The sword fights are kinda terrible, too. Boo.
I'm also very excited to see where the plot goes with all thing. The last couple of episodes made the entire season feel like an introduction, and now the pieces are moving. It's been way too long since a show has had me this invested in the characters, too. Especially Jon and the whole White Walker plotline.
... one could do a pretty cool game about manning the Wall and the challenges therein.
And now this has beat out my thread about socialism in terms of post count.
I say either "CHAH-gun" or "SHAH-gun", randomly chosen.
@Cygan > And don't call me baby.
Shut up, Baby Shirley.
@Chagen > These are two contradictory statements. If something is not good, it is, by definition, not enjoyable.
Chagen, I'm not really liking how Cygan is continuing this, but...you've got to open your mind, dude.
First, as I said before, there are different ways to enjoy things. Second, as I also said before, one can easily enjoy something without thinking it's the best thing ever. I already gave one example earlier, that being the fact that I like Kiddy Grade but also see and admit that it has lots of flaws.
For a corresponding example from the other side: I recognize that Noir is a great series, but I didn't enjoy it as much as I enjoyed Kiddy Grade, despite all its flaws. Watching Noir was like...I just saw this really great movie that I'm sure will get or got lots of rave reviews from the critics, except it didn't touch me emotionally very well.
@Chagen > Also: You're making me think that the 300 bucks I dumped into this series was a waste.
Ehh, don't worry about it. If you gave me a US$300 "Spend This Money On Anime" gift card I'd probably end up with a collection of DVDs that would perenially frustrate Noimporta due to the lack of
Legend of the Galactic Heroesquality animé in his opinion.As INUH put it, it's not a waste if you enjoyed it.
@Chagen > I have seen bad things before. But I enjoyed them, therefore, they are not bad. It's impossible to be objectively bad or good.
As I said before, this is what I used to think. But then I realized that stuff can be generally regarded as bad or good via consensus.
Also, I really enjoy Youtube Poops. I dare you to argue that they're not bad.
@Cygan > Let's pump some actually good stuff into you and see if you can still say this stuff with a straight face.
@Cygan > [animerecommendations.jpg]
Oh no, not this shit again.
I don't respect that chart at all; it just seems to be "4chan's tastes". That said, some of them are pretty good...but it depends on the chart.
I mean, let's try that chart you linked:
Action
* Cowboy Bebop: Seen a movie, this looks good.
* Outlaw Star, FMP and TSR, Trigun, Samurai Champloo, Black Lagoon: Never seen them. No comment. (NST,NC)
* Baccano: Heard it's good; saw a clip and it seemed nice.
Drama
* Rose of Versailles: Don't know it.
* Revolutionary Girl Utena: The art style (noodle people) annoys me.
* everything else in Drama category except CG: NST,NC
* Code Geass: Kinda overhyped, I've heard that it has noodle people (though less noodly than Utena), and it's related to several memes. Wait on this a bit.
Mecha (I'll stop listing series I don't know)
* Gundam: Saw one episode (probably from 00), might be interested in watching.
* Nadesico: May be interested but the amount of attention people dedicate to some deadpan snarker loli character makes me less interested.
* Eureka Seven: One of the best series I've ever seen. However, I would hesitate to classify this under "mecha", as I feel that the mechs really aren't the point.
Sci-fi
* Planetes, Crest/Banner of the Stars: On my watchlist already. Don't know them, though.
* Legend of the Galactic Heroes: That series that Noimporta pimps all the time, otherwise NST,NC
Slice of Life
* Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou a.k.a. Yokohama Shopping Log: on my watchlist already.
* Moyashimon: on my watchlist already, due to its quirky premise.
Super Robots (How does this idffer from mecha anyway?)
* Gunbuster/Diebuster: Possibly interested, though not too excited since it's a Gainax show and I've never been a huge fan of NGE as a mecha Gainax show. (Its characterization is another story.)
* TTGL: Watched the last two episodes, actually. They seemed quite nice. I know it's all over-the-top but it seems like a nicely done story nevertheless.
Romance
* Nodame Cantabile: On my watchlist due to its involvement with classical music, which seemed like an interesting premise.
* Clannad: REJECTED (reason: one of the Key Three, infamous for their creepily annoying character designs)
Comedy/Slapstick (This is probably my least favorite genre here.)
* FLCL: NST but I've heard this is basically Mind Screw: the Comedy. Not interested.
* Azumanga Daioh: It's more adorable than comedic in many instances, and is kinda slowly and pointlessly (not in a bad way) paced. I might watch it in isolated instances, but it's not something I'd care about with any consistency.
* Haruhi: I thought this was a drama show. I might watch it for the drama. Maybe.
But I have yet to meet one who can outsm--* Minami-ke: Saw one episode of this. No longer interested.
Psychological
* Evangelion: Well, this is correctly placed at least. This is a decent psychological thriller/introspective series. It is kinda distracted by various other plot/setting details but it's still decent.
Mystery
* Higurashi: I don't think I'll enjoy this; I've heard that it's basically creepy children do creepy things. Not my thing.
* Darker than Black: I mainly know this series because it features a theme song by Rie fu ("Tsukiakari"). I've seen a little bit; the animation seemed good but I know nothing else. Seemed to be a murder mystery of sorts with supernatural influences; not really my type of story.
Sport
* Akagi and Kaiji: I confuse these two titles due to their similar art styles. Other than that, NST,NC
Fantasy/Adventure
* CCS:
A very useful proposed solution to the unwanted amounts of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.I know it's the predecessor of Nanoha. May watch later. Not currently on watchlist.* Nanoha: Seen all three basic seasons of this. Generally a decent series. StrikerS is my favorite season.
* Scrapped Princess: Already on my watchlist, NST,NC
* Druaga: Isn't this related to that obscure videogame? Also already on my watchlist. Apart from that, NST,NC.
Thriller/Drama
* Death Note: The only one I'm somewhat familiar with here. Mostly through the memes; I don't actually know the series.
@Cygan > Quality is not subjective. There is no formula to easily divine what is quality and what is not, but it exists.
This. Cygan put it better than I did.
@Cygan > Then, sir, please stop discussion until you get home and check it out.
Okay, that was kinda mean. He can't watch any of those series (except a few) in the course of an evening.
"CCS: A very useful proposed solution to the unwanted amounts of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. I know it's the predecessor of Nanoha. May watch later. Not currently on watchlist."
?
UPDATE: Oh. Carbon capture is bullshit. Cardcaptor less so, though it has its fair share of it.
Fixed.
Cardcaptor Sakura > Nanoha. Though really it's not the "predecessor" of Nanoha any more than any other magical girl show is. Cardcaptor Sakura just happens to be one of the more popular ones.
Also, Scrapped Princess is shit.
Also, how did you ever think Haruhi was a drama? It's like... a moe harem comedy parody thing. With time travel and aliens and whatnot.
Utena is god-tier and you should watch it even if you don't like noodle people.
Code Geass is actually really good, though I heard the second season is shit.
I thought Haruhi is a drama because I saw the end of that episode where one of the other characters who doesn't like Yuki traps Kyon and Yuki bails him out and a giant amoeba man attacks the school and some crazy shit that was played for drama.
How can you divine Quality?
Characterization? But everyone has different iterpretations of characters, and one person may find a characterization to be bad.
Plot? But everyone has different opinions on what is a good plot, and someone may find something to be, say, an Ass Pull while another doesn't.
There's too much subjectivity involved.
don't think they are honestly the cream of the crop in terms of TV and
anime.
I don't know about Buffy, but Cowboy Bebop is probably one of the better animes I've seen, it does all it sets out to do, and it does it excellently, it's fantastic at setting the atmosphere, has good characters, great voice acting, pretty good animation and a superb soundtrack.
I just saw this really great movie that I'm sure will get or got lots of rave reviews from the critics
It wasn't, and it didn't. Still pretty good.
I don't respect that chart at all; it just seems to be "4chan's
tastes". That said, some of them are pretty good...but it depends on
the chart.
Newsflash: 4chan (Or rather /a/, in this case) is not a hivemind, there's tons of people with tons of different opinions. The charts are fine, they try to cover all the bases, there's tons of stuff on them that I didn't enjoy, but acknowledge might be more akin to others' tastes.
As for anime recommendations, there's this post, and also:
- Cowboy Bebop: for the reasons stated above.
- RahXephon: Interesting plot, good characters, very pretty.
- Legend of the Galactic Heroes: A space opera of epic proportions. Yes, it's long, and slow, and old, but it's by no means boring. Political intrigue, space battles, boisterous characters, a classical soundtrack make it a very enthralling experience.
- Princess Tutu: The first half is a fine fairy tale, the second is a somewhat metafictional story, both are awesome.
And many more, but I think those are enough for a start.I think NGE is very good. I just don't like it. Same for Homestuck. I see that it is quite good, I just don't like it.
I couldn't ever make it past the second episode of Beck, but I don't think it's a bad show. Though I haven't seen enough of it to decide if it's a good show either, I guess. Other than that... I dunno. >.>
beats me."
Personally, I find though it is terribly flawed, I like the slice-of-life aspects of it and I give it credit primarily for making me realize I had a taste for shojo anime (and here we come full centre). Whether that was a good or bad thing depends on perspective.
"Has anyone here ever admitted that a show is good, just one that they themselves did not like? Because you can see the opposite, and you see the other mismatches, just not usually that one."
That was my initial reaction to 2001: A Space Odyssey. Although I didn't have the patience to finish it the first time, so I probably ought to try sitting through it again. Also Citizen Kane, but in that case, I felt better movies have been made since then.