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That we can't have a topic discussing pedoph... lolicon without it getting locked (NSFW)

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  • CaptainFargleCaptainFargle
    edited 2011-06-01 18:29:51
    @Dyre: I did no such thing. I implied you wanted to fuck anime kids, which is not as bad but still terrible. They are still kids after all. 
  • BobBob
    edited 2011-06-01 18:29:59
    Not everyone opposing it said anything about it's fans being insane or terrible people. Besides, some see it as nothing more than anime-flavoured pedophilia, which is why they find it so disgusting. From that viewpoint, you don't need to want to screw actual kids, it's still gross. Sorry if I didn't word that particularly well.

    ^This, pretty much.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    edited 2011-06-01 18:31:25
    You can change. You can.
    From what you both guys posted, I haven't liked anything...

    @Fargle and Bob: I disagree. I like anime girls and I like how they look, but I can't fantasize about them. Not all of them lolicons have to find them sexually arousing (Although I'm not sure if using the word lolicon is helping my case...)
  • All NinesAll Nines
    edited 2011-06-01 18:31:21
    Has friends besides tanks now
    -leaves for two hours to go to a banquet-

    -sees 108 new posts-


    But seriously. What is so tough about civility and basic respect?

    This seems fairly civil now, but if we can't keep it civil, I'm shutting it down.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    It's just a fetish. Do rape fetishes support actual rape? Do vore fetishes literally want to be eaten?

    You're taking it too personally.
  • DYREDYRE
    edited 2011-06-01 18:31:21
    But the reason wanting to have sex with real kids is bad is because real kids are both real and kids.

    Anime kids are not real and only barely kids (since, you know, they aren't real), so you'll have to provide a better reason than that.

    ^ This too.

    Also holy crap ninjas.
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    Why do you guys like that stuff anyway? The art, I mean.
  • InsanityAddictInsanityAddict
    Diet NEET
    As per my title, I shall now try to armchair psychologize all of these factors.

    >a longing for unjudgemental innocence: closely linked to the trend of herbivorous men in Japan/3D pig disgusting sentiment, fear of/bad experience with the other sex/rejection, correlates with shit self-esteem/not grasping social conventions and wanting them to be simple

    >a compulsion to enjoy it because its taboo: sorta like the excitement of exhibitionism, knowing full well that it is taboo. can possibly also be self-humilation, fapping to the idea of the reactions people will have to you because you fap to it

    >a fetish for the petite or the kawaii aesthetic: purely pettanko, or thrills from frills etcetera, possibly correlates with the shitty quality of most live action cosplay pr0n/the cliches of schoolgirl uniforms

    >vanilla pedophilia: something you can actually get away with, pretty simple

    >trying to be edgy and contrarian: akin to the 13-year old that spams sites with CP because it makes others go from mildly uncomfortable to batshit mad

    >desire to nurture something: a loli is like a puppy, binges on utsuges and Key Visual Arts templates
  • BobBob
    I'm not seeing how they're "only barely" kids. They look like kids (or are at least drawn in such a way to remind people of actually children), act like real kids (in most cases), are treated as actual kids, so be how are they not kids, other than being fictional? Wanting to rape and decapitate a fictional character is still pretty freaky, even if you don't want to do such a thing to a real person.
  • CaptainFargleCaptainFargle
    @Dyre: They're still kids, they're still not sexually mature, it's still inappropriate.
  • NoimportaNoimporta
    Vorpy, a while ago I made a comment about lolicon and you yelled at me. You seem to have done a 180, any reason for that?
    Vorpys, vorping, etc.
  • ForzareForzare
    edited 2011-06-01 18:37:25
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    ^^ They're still being raped, they're still not enjoying sex, it's still inappropriate.

    It is both fictional and just a harmless fetish. If DYRE were talking about how sexy real kids were, then I'd have a problem. But I don't see the difference between lolicon and any one of the other numerous illegal things people like in drawn porn.
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    They say writers take from their lives. Like the fiction writer who got dumped by his girlfriend and then writes a story where the main character kills his love interest? Yeah, the author will say he would never do that, and he can be fairly confident in that, and maybe he never will. But outlying factors such as taboo and law are very powerful things, and if those didn't exist what is stopping you putting your man-meat into a little girl's who-hah?
  • InsanityAddictInsanityAddict
    Diet NEET
    Brb, gonna jump out of window because Mario taught me that if I land on my butt it will negate the impact.
  • CaptainFargleCaptainFargle
    @Forzare: Hence why I still have a problem with porn where any number of the participants don't like it. 
  • DYREDYRE
    The thing is, by saying that sexualizing fictional children is equivalent (or nearly equivalent) to sexualizing real children, you're saying that sexualizing children is bad due to some inherent property of the thought, rather than because of any harm that could possibly come from it (because, of course, it's impossible to harm someone who doesn't exist).

    And if it's a matter of sexualizing fictional children leading to sexualizing real children, well... I'd say most people have a good enough understanding of the differences between reality and fantasy, for that not to really be so much of a problem.
  • CaptainFargleCaptainFargle
    edited 2011-06-01 18:46:47
    @Dyre: As a matter of fact I do find a lot of things inherently wrong with sexualising someone who isn't sexually mature. 

    You know, because of sexual immaturity part. In case it wasn't already fucking obvious. 
  • DYREDYRE
    So, it's not a matter of certain things being wrong because they cause harm to someone, rather it's just there are certain things that are arbitrarily determined to be wrong?
  • CaptainFargleCaptainFargle
    All morality is arbitrary. 
  • NyarlyNyarly
    Likes cheesecake unironically.
    Bleh, I hate you all, right now.
  • DYREDYRE
    edited 2011-06-01 18:51:19
    ^^ Perhaps, but in that case, it would make having a discussion about this difficult and mostly pointless.
  • BobBob
    ^^Can't say I blame you. I hate myself for being a part of this.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    ... This thread has become a pit of stupid bullshit and petty sniping.

    Locking. And I'm getting rather annoyed at the lolis, but not as annoyed as I am right now at everyone else.
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