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I don't know how to measure how much the mods were annoyed by a given troper, but I was not under the impression that Vandro was considered a serious annoyance by the majority of the mods.
and give them a sad soliloquy about the horribleness of my life and why I can no longer live onwait, that's not part of the plan....That... Is pretty much a foundation for my arguament, not yours.
Ever see that one celebrity you hated above all others go through tons of shit and try to improve his image and change his repulsive behaviors, just to end up being killed in the end?
It's like that.
People liking you is not up for dispute. We're talking about the people who hate you. Which is like, everyone else. Including people who are too polite and actually sane to turn into seething lunatics whenever you appear and just put up with you.
And Vorpy, that's not entirely true; Chagen did improve a lot since he first signed up.
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What, seriously? I've seen more flamewars over you than over religion. No offense; I've never had anything against you, but seriously. Threads sometimes degenerated into zap-worthy flaming just because you showed up.
Stop announcing yourself threatening your life out of despair. It's annoying as fuck, and it's something people like ME are supposed to do, not you.
MOD EDIT: Since you have to ask, yes. ~GMH
Chagen, please don't be melodramatic. It's just a forum.
Such excellent argument skills.
@Chagen:Seriously, just no. Cut the suicide threats out.
You shouldn't be relying on people on the internet to validate you, to boost your self-esteem.
That seems to be part of the problem here. You feel down because other people aren't supportive of you.
But seriously, suicide threats over a forum? I'm not buying it. It just seems passive aggressive to me.
I have never liked the excessive piling-on about Chagen. There's been at least once on IRC where I saw people talking about how Chagen is an idiot and stuff, went off to do something else, and half an hour later still saw people talking about how Chagen is an idiot and stuff. And my response: Shut the fuck up already, seriously.
That said, if I were to walk out into the streets of Manhattan, say, wearing nothing but a Speedo brief, just because I feel like it (and not for any reason relating to how other people will react to me), I'm quite sure that people would notice me, and not in a good way.
This, I think, similar to the situation at hand--behaviors that you're displaying are turning heads, and not in a good way. And just because people are sympathetic to you, Chagen--and many of us are, and many of us have felt that you've become a better person since joining TV Tropes--doesn't mean that we particularly like your habits.
Don't you have, say, that uncle who's totally cool but whose house smells like crap, or that one friend with the annoying tendency to grab the snacks before you get to them? It's entirely possible to like and care about someone but not like one or more of their habits.
This, a thousand times.
Make no mistake, I think the ban was regrettable, and I don't dislike you as a person, Chagen. But you continue to act in a way that comes across as whiny and pointlessly antagonistic, and it tries people's patience. That's what happened to you on TV Tropes.
Firstly, I don't want to hate people, and I don't even hate Chagen, he was just getting on my nerves (or should I say "you were", sorry, I'm talking about you like you're not here) for, first off, comparing yourself to Vandro, even though your ban reasons were completely different, and when this was brought to your attention, you continued to talk about how there were people who liked you, while simultaneously calling the people in the Touhou thread "prudish cunts", a group of people I might add, that you belong to.
If you wonder why people don't like you, look over that very post. It's aggressive, self-centered. If you don't show respect why do you expect it back so much?
I want that to be all I have to say but there's a couple other things too, like how I mentioned you were creating a barrier, which you were, by threatening to kill yourself. If you did indeed kill yourself, Fast Eddie and everyone who posted in this thread wouldn't deserve the blame. But they'd probably take it anyway. If you feel like you're losing a debate, or people are bullying you, speak your mind as clearly as possible. Let people actually know what you think, get your thoughts out of your head to the page with minimal distortion. Rather than threatening to commit suicide, explain why you feel that way, it puts you on the same page, and is much more likely to get you sympathy. Because it shows you're willing to listen back.
Sorry for this stupid long post, but I wanted to address exactly what went wrong back there, rather than just slamming my head against the keyboard and watching the mistakes from history go unlearned again.
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