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IJBM is SERIOUS PO-MO TRANSHUMAN TECHNOTRASH ART and if YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT etc. etc. etc.
And by "PIMPCANE" I mean "umbrella with a crook-handle."
@All the above posts:
Like, comment, and subscroob!
Mandelbrot would be ashamed.
I am so sick of windchimes.
> implying that this format should not be used for simply replying to stuff, without making any comments about implications
Dammit. Of course I just got another idea for a username.
Ah, well. I guess that'll be for the next community I join.
Still trying to decided if I want to change here.
Guys
HELP ME
IJBM: I can't find wizard aliens in fiction.
Seriously? I'm pretty sure that's been done a lot. Not sure what examples I've seen off the top of my head, and I get the impressions that most of the ones I'm familiar with are kinda dumb, but I'm quite certain they exist.
Well, this exists, at least.
All I can find is some crass joke on South Park
^ wat da fak
Ah, right, the Alien Wizard that makes men want to have sex with lots of women.
Well if you consider things from other dimensions/possibly planets D&D has a ton of them. The Gith(yanki/zeri) are the foremost.
The Martian wizards in Adventure Time.
Calling the Green Lantern rings anything besides magic, well you are being a bit silly.
Jedi and Sith.
Time Lord tech might as well be magic at certain points. Trapping a girl in a mirror - every mirror, comes to mind.
Chaos forces and the Eldar in WH40K.
Thanos in Marvel.
The New Gods in DC.
>contradiction
>implying falsehood
Jedi and Sith would be the most appropriate one, probably; they even follow the most technical and rigid definition of "wizard" there is due to the lack of a post-romantic magic system in Star Wars. Except for the EU, but fuck the EU.
Oh yeah, those guys.
And these guys, too! Granted, the Force is better-defined than most magic, but still.
i thought these guys just wielded vaguely-defined energy things that were explicitly separate from magic in the setting
MAIM KILL BURN
That would require magic to be a single thing in those series, rather than five million different things.
Alex no Alexing about how you like magic to be vague and need to do whatever the plot needs and tick off your preferred flavor of themes and nuance. We've all heard it like 40 times.
Eelektross - if it is functionally magic, you call it magic. Sure you can call the green lantern rings hyper advanced tech, but they use FEELINGS as a power source and can make whatever the user wants.
Oh yeah one more example of a magic alien. Kyubey in Madoka Magica.
Yeah, but Star Wars was brought up.
The point is that the Force was narratively effective in the first place because it was an unknown. The Star Wars EU makes it boring as hell. It's really ironic that, statistically, many of the same people who complain about midichlorians in Ep I probably consume a lot of the EU fiction that's guilty of fundamentally the same thing.
We're all nerds here and we all, to some degree, enjoy finding and mastering patterns. Nothing wrong with that. But I think we too often fall into that pattern-finding mode as a default without consideration or self-awareness, so we get things like this franchise decay. Not just in Star Wars, for instance, but across a variety of speculative fiction franchises. Alien is a great example. It's all driven by a compulsion to find the pattern and the answer, but we might often be better served by not knowing.
I have no problem with codified magic systems that are appropriate for their settings and works, but it's pretty terrible to see such a perfect example of modern romanticist fantasy, such as Star Wars, become conceptually decayed and misunderstood because of consumer compulsion. We can leave that kind of systemisation to works like Fullmetal Alchemist, which pull it off with brilliance and genius. But Star Wars in particular was never meant for that amount of consistency in its elements of the arcane, because the Force was essentially just a convenient tool of character expression moreso than anything else.
Only 3 paragraphs? You're learning, Alex.
No, that's not an excuse to go off again.
Whatever is vague has not been analyzed enough yet! We as a species are better than that!
How can we talk about alien wizards and not talk about the Eldar, the species that is made up entirely of alien wizards.
Alternatively, Orks.
ORKS ORKS ORKS!
Sorry, just had to do that.