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I found them very straightforward, but then again I was reading the books shortly before they came out. Not that the books were easy to follow in comparison.
I confused the four hobbits with each other, and I also confused Sauron with Saruman at first.
The thing is, the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy movie wasn't really an accurate interpretation of the series's brand of humor, or the plot as a whole(The romance between Arthur and Trillian was shoehorned in to get the script sold), though that was Douglas Adams's intention, since most versions of the story have some differences at best.
LIES AND SLANDER
That's your moe-brain acting up.
^ Wait, how?
^^ Also that, given that they're easily the most accessible form of the story out there. As of yet, there's been no successful full game adaptation, so the movie is the best audo-visual adaptation out there -- there were some reasonably good movie tie-in games, but they were limited to the action scenes. Although I gotta give them props in that they tended to fill things out with influence from the books, and the end of the RotK game actually has a nice summary of some of the themes courtesy of Sir Ian.
A full game of all LotR books would be a beautiful thing in theory, but books rarely lend themselves to game adaptations at the best of times and LotR would be a particular challenge. The only way I think it could be done is via an Aragorn-perspective game, where a good section of the experience is pre-book Aragorn doing ranger stuff with the endgame being the Ring Quest itself.
Although the less said about the Aragorn's Quest game the better.
^ Well, the central characters of the film are essentially the Fellowship throughout the whole thing. Apart from them, there aren't a whole lot of other characters, and many characters were made into composites or replaced with more major characters in their roles. Apart from the Fellowship and the villains, you only really need to know Elrond, the three leading figures of Rohan, and Denethor and Faramir of Gondor. And Gollum. That's sixteen major characters all up, which is by all accounts a fair few, but I think the movies deal with them very well.
Well the reason I confused Saruman and Sauron was because the two names were frequently murmured unclearly.
The hobbits, on the other hand, looked too much alike for me to be able to tell them apart just from seeing them for a few minutes at a time for the first time.
Same goes for Boromir and Aragorn, both brunette long-haired white guys with facial hair around their mouths; it took me until the scene where that one dude is being a complete idiot about Boromir being dead for me to realize conclusively that they were two different characters.
Everyone else had a distinctive enough character design.
Keep in mind that I did not know who any of these characters were before watching the movies. I had to be introduced to each of them anew.
I don't see what this has to do with moë character designs.
You mistook Sean Bean(Boromir) for Viggo Mortensen(Aragorn), that's what I meant for moe-brain. You can't differentiate actor's faces.
But...but they don't even have the same hair color...
Before LotR, my only foray into Middle Earth had been via having The Hobbit read to me and reading it myself many times. Only Gandalf, Bilbo and Gollum return from that as really prominent characters (arguably Elrond as well, I guess).
Also, Aragorn and Boromir flat our have an argument during the Council of Elrond. And Boromir carries a sword ans shield, while Aragorn has a longsword. Frodo is distinct of the Hobbits for his black hair; Sam is the sturdy-looking ones. Merry and Pippin I can sort of understand, but they have distinct voices and Merry is definitely the more foolish of the two.
With that in mind, I suggest reading The Hobbit and then rewatching the films for the most accessible look at Middle Earth.
And I spent more than half my time being told by the movie to take in the pretty scenery and the epic atmosphere, taking for granted that I knew who the characters were.
And it was all freaking orange/yellow/gold/tan/brown anyway.
^ Having seen the movies, and then gone back and thought through them, with the help of the internet, I know they all look different now, and I know how they look different. For example, Frodo is noticeably thinner than the others; in fact, I knew that as early as halfway through the second movie, when it became clear that there were four hobbits, only two of which had the ring, and the other two of which were out doing other things, like talking to trees.
Wait, was it Frodo's group or Merry's group that encountered the Ents? I think it was Merry's group.
The thing with those things like the argument between the characters--yes, I remember them individually, but I don't know where to place them. They are, like, isolated bits of information that didn't really have a connection to other things that I knew about the story so far. There was rather little text in the script, and where it did happen, there were many, many references to setting lore that I knew nothing about, such as lots of place names and character names that I had never heard of before. So basically, I didn't make sense of these sorts of events until later, when I read about them in summaries online. Y'know, that "Oh, so that's what was happening!" feeling.
Boromir:
Aragorn:
I honestly don't see much of a resemblance at all.
Actually, I think the films introduce the characters very well.
Frodo is introduced with Gandalf in an initial verbal exchange. Bilbo follows shortly, and we get a first look at Sam, Merry and Pippin during the party. Those three aren't fleshed out until later, though, and after Bilbo leaves we're more or less just dealing with Frodo and Gandalf.
Sam is more properly introduced when he's pulled into the window of Bag End by Gandalf. Merry and Pippin come after again while stealing crops, prompting an amusing escape from the farmer -- which pretty much nails the core of their characters right there and tells you what to expect from them.
Aragorn is introduced at Bree is a highwayman-type character, but we soon learn that he's something of a loremaster and much, much more than he appears. Until Rivendell, we're dealing with six major characters, but Gandalf is absent for much of it after the Hobbits leave the Shire, so we're really down to five. That's the first hour and a half, which is standard feature length.
Rivendell introduces the rest. Boromir via seeing the potential of the Ring as a weapon (which juxtaposes him with Aragorn right off the bat). Legolas and Gimli are the token "minorities", and are therefore easy to spot. And there you have the nine central characters, one of whom dies.
There are a lot of side characters, but they can more or less be forgotten once their role is over and they hold no special significance to the plot apart from some of the ones I mentioned in a previous post. In fact, it's remarkable how efficiency the films convey information.
Okay, fine, I blame the way I watched the movies.
The Fellowship of the Ring: video rental from Blockbuster, on home TV set.
The Two Towers: watched (most of) this on a friend's TV during a birthday party for someone else that his parents were hosting.
Return of the King: a film showing at a senior center, where my mom and I were accompanying a old family friend.
Granted, I had the good fortune to see all three in cinemas. It was a regular thing for those three years between my family and family friends. Although myself and the people of comparable age from the other family, to this day, argue about whether LotR or Harry Potter were better movies (protip: LotR).
I really, really suggest you watch LotR under better circumstances, Glenn. They are very much the Star Wars of our generation and have changed a fair bit in the world of cinema. Before LotR, a non-period, non-drama film couldn't really exceed two hours, and most were ninety minutes -- now, it's not entirely unusual for at least a few films a year to make it to three hours outside of those genres, chiefly due to the influence of LotR. It's also responsible for an explosion of fantasy films and games alike, in fact bringing the whole fantasy genre into the mainstream proper. Kind of poetic; where the books created the fantasy genre as we know it, the films actually popularised it as a "normal", mainstream kind of thing.
My computer doesn't seem to want to boot up at all now. So I might not be on IJBM as much for at least the rest of the week.
Also, apparently my school's computers have some kind of internet filter software, since I can't read the thread "Fucking Ponies," presumably because "Fucking."
Also, I think I've managed to convince my stats teacher that I don't exist. He's going around and checking on everyone else to see how their project is coming along, but he doesn't even like... acknowledge that I'm here.
Which is probably for the best, since I'm not actually working on anything.
I've been wondering whether I should change the name of that thread. It's slightly sketchy-sounding, and also prevents you from reading it. On the other hand, it prevents you from reading it at school.
I thought the sketchiness of the title was deliberate.
It's called that because it was originally just an excuse to post a silly picture. It just sort of became the main Pony thread by accident.
Weeeeee, I got my first Nigerian Burkinabe scammer e-mail ever.
I just came up with this:
"Is that really your hitbox, or are you just dying to see me?"
Just ordered Best Served Cold off of Amazon for $7. Feels right.
^ That's a pretty sick burn, I have to say.
Now that I think about it, I could mess around for a bit with the scammer. It could be fun.
Should I do it?
Been done before, I think. By like Dateline NBC or something.
Should be nap time soon...or not.
I has chainmail rings.
I live at school, you know. So if I can't read it at school it means I can't read it at all on weekdays. Though apparently my computer still works sometimes? (since it's working right now...)
I wouldn't. Also, the scammers are a lot smarter than you think. They probably will be able to tell what you're doing. A lot of people try to take advantage of scammers and end up getting scammed more as a result. Not saying you will, though, but it's still probably not something that's worth doing, since it's not like you really get anything out of it.
^ That sounds like a sensible advice. And I should probably work on my grad paper instead of wasting my time on African scammers.
Also, to all workers of the world, happy International Labor Day!
Evidently there's a rumor that Benedict Cumberbach is playing Kahn.
Yes, because the white skinny british dude looks exactly like Ricardo Montalban.
The Element Hunters OP starts annoyingly like the beginning of the vocal melody of Aoi Tori (one of Chihaya's personal songs in Idolmaster).