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  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Eh, I don't see why would we do the name change when we don't do anything different from any other mega thread. But that might be just me. Of course, I wouldn't oppose it, either. 

    As for education being free, I feel that education is a right, and as such should be provided freely, unless you're getting it through private means, so yeah, sorta agree with Conductor there.

    that reminds me, I should be writing an article on the whole shebang going on colleges around here. hmmmm.
  • RedEyedAbyssRedEyedAbyss
    Post-secondary education not being free is simply denying opportunities for a significant portion of the population.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    I could have gone to quite a few schools for free, but none of them were as good as the one I'm attending now.

    Of course, now I'm planning to leave that one, so...
  • CrimsonCrimson
    Give us fire! Give us ruin! Give us our glory!
    39000? My college costs $44k before scholarships (luckily I got enough to halve the cost), and there are some high-ranked private schools that cost way more than that. University of Chicago's Law School, for example, costs like $60k per semester.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Oh, yeah, I know that it's not really all that much, relatively speaking.

    I'm only talking about it because people were asking.
  • CrimsonCrimson
    Give us fire! Give us ruin! Give us our glory!
    I was mostly talking to Conductor and Ian about prices over here.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Ah, 'kay.

    Incidentally, my school is a public school.
  • RedEyedAbyssRedEyedAbyss
    Yeah, actually, relatively speaking, that's ridiculously high.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Hmmm, I pay around 1'800.000 pesos per semester. That'd be around 3000-4000 thousand dollars, I think.
  • IanExMachinaIanExMachina
    edited 2011-10-15 19:14:51
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    Whilst I hate the current Tory govt for allowing Uni fees to be £9k a term I'm glad we haven't fully embraced the American system.

    How can people afford to study?
    Paying roughly 40k a year for a child to go to uni:s?
    Let alone that is upfront.
  • RedEyedAbyssRedEyedAbyss
    edited 2011-10-15 19:18:12

    Don't you get it? You're not supposed to help your child become dependent. It is the American way to work 3 jobs in order to pay that tuition!

    Egad, I can't believe that in light of "We are the 53%", that strawman has more truth to it than it seems.

  • CrimsonCrimson
    edited 2011-10-15 19:18:11
    Give us fire! Give us ruin! Give us our glory!
    @Abyss: Yeah, but INUH goes to Georgia Tech (IIRC). That's a pretty prestigious school, and you pay for prestige.
  • RedEyedAbyssRedEyedAbyss
    How much does the quality of education actually improve though?
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    ^It has the highest ratio of starting salary to tuition in the US.
  • ninjaclownninjaclown
    Haven't been keeping up with this thread so I have no time to read the last few pages...what countries provide free education in general, and how do they manage to do this? If they're failing at providing free education, I want to know that reason as well.
  • RedEyedAbyssRedEyedAbyss
    edited 2011-10-15 19:23:19
    Yeah, but that's job credentials, which is not necessarily education. But that's North American priority for you, I guess.
  • CrimsonCrimson
    edited 2011-10-15 19:26:43
    Give us fire! Give us ruin! Give us our glory!
    @Abyss: A lot, most of the time. Unless you wind up with bad professors. Though prestige means a lot when it comes to graduate school and employment.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    It does provide an excellent education.

    I'm just leaving because it turns out I really suck at the thing I was there for.

    Anyway, I should point out to all the people freaking out about prices that there are some pretty amazing scholarships available in the US.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Haven't been keeping up with this thread so I have no time to read the last few pages...what countries provide free education in general, and how do they manage to do this? If they're failing at providing free education, I want to know that reason as well.

    Except for the EICTV, Cuba does provide free education. It provides it via getting money from tourists and all that, though.

    And welp, it's not like you're gonna get much for your education. Hell, working a cab is prolly the highest paying work right now.
  • IanExMachinaIanExMachina
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    How do you afford that kind of expense though?
    I mean surely with that only richer (relatively speaking) families can afford it?

    As I'm shocked by prices, what are the scholarships available?
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Pretty much any school will offer need-based scholarships, charging you what they think you can afford.

    And there are a completely absurd number of merit-based or sometimes luck-based ones offered, both by schools and by corporations (the luck-based ones mostly by corporations).
  • delta534delta534
    Tech support
    Don't forget about student loans.
  • IanExMachinaIanExMachina
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    I have to say that doesn't negate the shock much.
    As in the UK you get given extra money if you come from a 'poor' family.

    I got it myself, it was a grant (free money) of 2k a year.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    edited 2011-10-15 19:34:38
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    ^^Well, yeah, there's that too.

    They're...less pleasant, though.

    ^I can get 5k a year from a school costing about half as much as the one I'm at now, just from need-based aid, even though my family's pretty well-off.

    I think Tech is just stingy.
  • CrimsonCrimson
    edited 2011-10-15 19:34:48
    Give us fire! Give us ruin! Give us our glory!
    @Ian: Loans usually, that's why people working for 10 years and up to pay them off is such a big deal.

    And there are tons of scholarships available, but it depends the school. I only did mediocre in my highschool (3.0 GPA, barely any extracurricular, but good ACT scores), and my college threw over $20k at me.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    I don't see what's the difference between a grant and a reduction of price. I mean, at the end, you're still using other people's money to pay for college and education.
  • IanExMachinaIanExMachina
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    What are US student loans like?
    As over here they are par for the course.
    You get a loan for x amount a year for Uni fees, plus another loan for x amount for living.

    You pay 0% interest and only pay it back when you earn over 15k a year, as a percentage is taken out of your wages.
  • DonZabuDonZabu
    edited 2011-10-15 20:00:26

  • delta534delta534
    Tech support
    If this will work for you, this is a good overview of the student loan process.
  • IanExMachinaIanExMachina
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    So you still pay interest and around 31k of debt?
    (Or have I misread that link entirely :s?)
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