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In which I hijack this thread with Danganronpa stuff again.
Alright, so it's Kyouko. That had been bugging me for a while. Also Touko. Also Oowada and Oogami but I already knew those.
Also since one can improve relationships in School Mode I think I'll go with that. P.S.: I did and it worked out easily. Also judging from relationships/trips events, apparently Mukuro is the exact opposite of Junko.
On related news, I've begun playing Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair.
On unrelated news, I've also begun playing Satori Komeiji's Mental Education, a cutesy puzzle Touhou game that's more or less Lemmings on an isometric grid. tl:dr: Move objects around to make up to three characters reach a present.
Yay. DR2 probably has my favorite overall plot and final boss too.
* I see this game is even more videogame-themed than the previous one.
* So here's Nanami. Unfortunately I already got spoiled on what ends up happening to her (though not when). Fortunately I think that's the last remaining thing I was spoiled about. On second thought maybe that wasn't canon? I think I'll just assume I don't really know.
* Ooohh, Byakuya is here. And fat. He's a prat but having survived DR1 I don't want him to die here.
* I thought Gundham was going to be the Ultimate Ninja.
* I'm really digging the character designs.
* There's no way that's the last I hear of the .exe icon.
* It wasn't. That was fast.
* I thought the Ultimate Team Manager would've made a better leader.
* The first thing I noticed after entering the storage room at the old buildibg during the party was that Byakuya should've taken away the irons. Also there was a fire extinguisher in the hallway.
* Oh crap, Byakuya why you?
* It didn't take much for a murder to take place. Maybe there really is a traitor acting up this time?
* You know, I don't think I've ever seen a fire door before. Wikipedia tells me some are set to close automatically in case of a blackout and that's the most obvious way for it to be relevant to this case, so...
* Man why wasn't I let into the bathroom, that's like the first place I wanted to check.
* I'd have liked for Gundham to say how he found his earring before the trial started.
* Alright, here's what I think happened. The culprit shoved a skewer under the floorboard and set the irons/AC units to trip the breaker circuit at 11:30. Before that time the culprit went under the building ready to kill whoever, and brought a tablecloth to avoid getting soaked in blood. Byakuya was prepared for an attacker and had the goggles and knife in the duralumin locker, which he took and then went to hide under the table for which he also prepared the fluorescent tape for visibility. Perhaps making use of the tape, the culprit chose to attack whoever was under that table using the skewer. If that was it it's not clear to me why they put the bloodstained tablecloth back in the storage room, but it could be something as simple as wanting to conceal where the murderer acted.
* Alright, so everyone but Fuyuhiko, Terotero and Peko have alibis. If Chiaki is right about being unable to enter from the outside then Fuyuhiko is clear. If I'm right about the fire door thing then I pressume Terotero would've had a hard time crossing it in the dark, and I'm also assuming Ibuki wouldn't have noticed anything about sound distortion if he yelled from below the floorboard. Dunno how to account for Peko, I thought something about food poisoning but Akane seems fine.
* So, first pick is Terotero, second pick is Peko, which I hope is not because I particularly like her design. Alright, let's roll.
You probably haven't even gotten to the most video-game-ey chapter yet.
Or like, the other more video-game-ey stuff.
aaaaaaaaaaaahboutthat... (this isn't even the actual spoiler)
* I should get used to reading the text before slashing it during the sword cut minigame.
* Everybody mentioned how Peko couldn't have reached the breaker circuit even if she had been at the office, but, she has a sword she could've reached it with (and nobody's mentioned anything about Byakuya taking it away).
* I don't see why the culprit would've used the power cord to guide themselves rather than just knowing beforehand where to go during the blackout.
* The "generic culprit character" looks like an alien in the event pictures.
* I knew Nagito was weird, but that's another level. Whatever, as long as we're still BFF.
* The Japanese voiceover is much clearer on what Byakuya said/meant during the blackout than the English text ("What the hell!? What's going on here!? Th-This is...!" vs. "What are you doing!? Stop!!").
* The (Improved) Hangman's Gambit is cunfuseing, I almost lost at it the first time.
* I assumed the portable stove was electrical. Though I just assumed the culprit was already underneath at the time of the blackout and needed no lighting.
* Huh, I thought Teruteru really was at the dining hall by the time power came back and I sorta remember thinking about loading a save file to check, but now I'm not sure. Regardless I thought he could've got back if prepared and didn't have to cross the fire door (such as if the path to below is on the entrance side of the building).
* I got super stuck on the Panic Time Attack game, specifically on the word-choosing thing, there's several ways of conveying "you hid the skewer within the lump of meat and bone at the kitchen" with those four words and I got the right one only after several attempts. Looking it up "meat on the bone" is a specific term I've only just now heard about. I wonder if it's less contrived in Japanese. Regardless I thought he could've just dropped it below the floorboard and we wouldn't have found it anyways. I got lots of practice at the timing game tho.
* I only realized later they were talking about hiding it before the crime took place, though I stll would've thought the same.
* I noticed that one of the Closing Argument hints is misleading ("Everybody at the party was..." -> "Chiaki is guarding the entrance.").
* So besides Nagito's failed murder, the Peko thing and some other less important details I did get it sorta right.
* Aww, I always get torn when a culprit (in this series or elsewhere) ends up genuinely crying like that.
* Uhhhh, Nagito escalated in weirdness, he's been demoted a couple ranks in BFFness.
* Poor Teruteru. I still wish at some point we learn what the outer world has/would've had in store for them, I still think things aren't as hopeless as Junko made them out to me.
* Good thing I'm not the only one who noticed Monokuma lied about his promise about the students's memories.
* I thought since before Sayaka's murder that there could be a willing victim at some point, but I didn't expect something like Nagito's crazy hope ideas.
This is getting more and more intriguing.
I find a good rhythm is to listen to the speaker until about halfway through.
I think that takes some getting used to?
Oh yeah DR2 is pretty bad about this sort of thing.
Also, rocks in a swimsuit, don't forget this, it will save you a lot of time.
Yeah I'm still pretty sure it's not a real thing.
You mean as per the ending of DR1? Well, the protagonists from that were Ultimates on her level, so... uh... I have no idea how to say this without it being a spoiler.
DRV3 though...
t. veteran at moving during blackouts
* It occurs to me if the fate of Teruteru's mother and her restaurant had been despair-inducing, Monokuma wouldn't have refrained from telling him about it, so that's a good sign.
* I wonder if Byakuya volunteered to be put through the whole hope thing again in case we needed his detective skills again.
* Ahhh, so World Ender is what it's called. I assumed the organization/cult at large was also under the banner of the Ultimate Despair.
* I presume Twilight Syndrome is nothing important on its own and the motive is the idea of a dangerous aid for a potential killer instead.
* Oh, I just found out how to get new skills.
* Huh, it took me Ibuki almost saying it out but the decency rule is for the broadcast thing.
* Oooh, that's also probably why there were no cameras at the bathrooms and bath locker room at Hope's Peak Academy.
* Awww, it's Mahiru's turn this time, right when she seemed to be warming up to Hajime.
* Now that Nagito is disqualified from being this game's Kyouko, it seems that it's Chiaki who will get around to help me solve mysteries.
* Alright, so the first three ones who saw Mahiru's corpse were Kazuichi (who has an alibi for the time of death), most certainly Hiyoko and a third person, if the first two aren't involved (and I bet they aren't) that also means there's no accomplice.
* Alright, so Girl A is Mikan, Girl B is Hiyoko, Girl D is Mahiru, Girl E is this Sato person, Guy F is Fuyuhiko and the victim is Fuyuhiko's sister. I don't get this one but by elimination Girl C is Ibuki.
* I see that pre-Tragedy Hope's Peak Academy wasn't all that nice either.
* If that's a motive for Fuyuhiko that's... a really weak motive. Then again he's a Yakuza.
* So Mahiro was killed somewhere else (the bathroom?) and had her blood washed off with drinks due to lack of water.
* None of the listed gummy flavours seem like they should correspond to a yellow gummy, but the wrapper looks like it should contain them. *shrug* Hiyoko was definitely at the beach at the time, though.
* Nagito really wants to be this game's Kyouko.
* I feel like I'll have everything covered if I can figure out moving through the window (and I don't need to if I Hiyoko was the one to move the body). Except that'd be too easy.
* Tentative hypothesis: Hiyoko hid in the closet before or after meeting with Mahiru, Fuyuhiko (who was already in the building or on top of it) found Mahiru and killed her how he killed Sato and while wearing the mask pretending to be the serial killer that he could very well be. Since this was not at the front door Fuyuhiko could very well go through it. For some reason Hiyoko then moved the body to the front door and escaped the house. That's a consistent theory but it's... lacking, for the most part it says that everything is what it looks like.
* While writing that up I realized that "Hiyoko hid in the closet, killed Mahiru with the bat, moved the body, cleaned the blood, dropped the mask, escaped and someone before Koizumi found her" is also a consistent theory. I think that's the problem with a case where many of the Truth Bullets are about a video game, it's not too hard to come up with something that at least seems to work.
* Yeah, I'll have to think about this throughout the day. Perhaps I should think about who else besides Fuyuhiko could've met with Mahiru? He was at the parking lot, though. Perhaps I should think more about Hiyoko's motivations for doing whatever it is that she's doing.
* Edit: I wonder if I should be thinking something about tbe fact that Akane's head wound hasn't come up again.
* Edit edit: I should not be assuming that Fuyuhiko was the first one to beat Twilight Syndrome, someone else (Sonia?) could've given him the folder to set him up for framing.
Yeah this chapter is pretty weak in terms of that.
But I think the Mikan chapter is the worst? I may have even written about it here? (don't look it up though since I certainly didn't spoiler tag that).
* I can't help but think about the fact that this chapter was when Monokuma specified clearly that for the purpose of blackening there are no accidental deaths. Perhaps Hiyoko attacked the would-be culprit in defense of Mahiru and accidentally struck her instead. I hope that's not it 'cuz of all the terrible ways to go in this series, having that happen then getting executed (squished?) over it is easily the worst so far, and that's for a particularly young character. If that's not the case here it'll probably be the case at some point. Regardless, if she's the one who messed with the crime scene that would explain why.
* If A attacks B and B uses C's body to block the attack, resulting in C's death, who's the blackened? I'm guessing A but who knows.
* I wonder if I should treat the Twilight Syndrome as another case to be solved, but I can't really think of a loose end to solve. But it shouldn't matter, should it? What's important is that it serves as motive, I think.
* Hmmm... Was Girl E outside the music room when the other girls met with her? I can't remember, but doesn't seem important.
* This may not come up but I must also remember that Ibuki and Mikan have alibis.
* I thought about Sonia coming up with the beach event but dunno where to go from there, nor what else she could've done or why.
* After much thought I can't come up with more. I can't be confident about any hypothesis if I can't explain why the body was moved, but I'll guess it was Hiyoko by accident defending Mahiru from Fuyuhiko. Alright, let's continue...
* Satou*
* It occurred to me that the music room door is one of those that while it's open you can set to lock after closing.
* Man, there are like a thousand reasonable ways the in-game murder weapon nonstop debate could go and I'm having a hard time finding the right one.
* Oooooh so that's when the rocks on a swimsuit hint comes up. Thanks wings, you spared me what was going to be the most pointless nonstop debate so far. I mean, the right target was the only blue remark that was dumb and I have photo evidence that the only yellow remark is wrong. Also I kinda remembering Girl E saying that the vase was the murder weapon but maybe I assumed that on my own.
* Hiyoko is bad at lying.
* Alright, it seems it wasn't Hiyoko after all, the obvious suspect is Fuyuhiko I guess.
* Spot Selection puzzles got hard all of the sudden. Also apparently not finding the culprit in the locker is reasonable but finding the gummy is not.
* "The body discovery announcement isn't supposed to be used for deduction!", " It doesn't include the killer this time" I feel cheated. Well, since there's a fourth person involved... I dunno... Sonia or something.
* The ability that restores your influence is quite convenient.
* So... Peko is involved?
* So... Peko killed Mahiru with Fuyuhiko's assistance (who cooperated out of suicidal revenge)?
* The sword stool thing is something I'd have dismissed as a reach (pun not originally intended) if I had thought of it. Is it a fairly well known thing? Still, I thought whoever was at the top could've reached whoever was at the bottom with a limb.
* I don't get it, at some point we started assuming Peko acted alone. Fuyuhiko deffo is involved though.
* So that's her motive, huh.
* Closing Argument now, so... Fuyuhiko was not involved in the crime itself? I'm confused now. I guess it'll clear up after the trial.
* She should've fled the scene by swimming elsewhere. Disregarding that that was quite involved, she really has practice at this murder thing.
* Even after voting it keeps getting weirder.
* Peko may not be Sparkling Justice but she's definitelly crazy.
* So I was right after being wrong but before I started being wrong again. So... what now?
* Mahiru needed to learn about conflict avoidance. She was right, tho.
* I kinda stopped following the train of thought about who killed who under who's orders and why and why it's relevant now. I don't think Monokuma would care tho.
* Yeah, he didn't.
* ngl that was a cool idea for an execution. The Fuyuhiko thing is messed up tho.
* Shouldn't have planned to kill the girl who didn't kill your sister, after all you already killed her friend.
* Hope's Peak Academy should've stopped scouting students who are Ultimates at criminal affairs. Still though, I did finally get to see his human side (and Peko's less-than-human side for some reason).
* So I had many of the smaller pieces of the puzzle right but assembled them completely wrong. During the trial I felt I was on the right track but then things took a completely different route. If I hadn't discarded the possibility of an accomplice that'd have made the part about getting out much easier, though I don't know how one'd deduce that Fuyuhiko's accomplice is Peko and not Akane, or that Fuyuhiko's motive is not a red herring.
* Oh, of course, Akane would've cleaned up her blood if it had been her.
* Though I guess ultimately whether there was an accomplice or not wasn't important fof the mystery (perhaps that's why the writers came up with the sword stool thing). I considered Peko but dismissed it for some reason I can't remember.
* Nevertheless that was super thrilling.
I do believe that qualifies under the categorization of "something".
It reminded me a lot of those free horror games with lots of Let's Play's one can see on Nico Nico Douga.
* Mientras la luz de la justicia brilla sobre mi máscara, expongo los corazones de mal perverso. ¡Justicia Completada! ¡El centro de la justicia que es perforada por la justicia! ¡La estrella guía de justicia que brilla sobre el cielo nocturno! Esa soy yo... ¡Justicia Resplandeciente!
* My pet Shitimi left me. I promise I'll take care of this egg better than last time.
* Awww, Mahiru was really liked, occult ritual aside I don't think anybody got this much post-death consideration.
* I like the detail that Fuyuhiko's pixel art now has an eyepatch.
* Ow, it's Ibuki's turn this time.
* Uhhh and Hiyoko too.
* I notice that in each game the second case involves (or "involves") a serial killer and the third involves two victims.
* Sooo, if the disease has been cured I can't discount the possibility of Mikan turning into a violen thug.
* So despite Jabberwock Island being a tropical island, the music venue has a heater and ~30 °C is significantly hotter than ambient temperature.
* This would be easier if I knew what a baton lighting is.
* Well, the suicidal video person doesn't have Ibuki's hair, that's an easy hint.
* "There is no doubt that Ibuki's death was her hanging herself with this rope." I have so many doubts about it. Well I guess I should take it for granted.
* I may be overthinking the fact that Nagito said that failing the trial would result in everyone but Nekomaru dying implies that Nekomaru is the culprit.
* I thought about the obvious possibility that the video was taken at the conference room, but I don't know how to account for the presence of the stepladder and video equipment at the time of Hajime reaching the crime scene. Maybe that's a red herring? Regardless I'd have liked if the characters had double checked that the camera and monitor didn't correspond with each other.
* Will the culprit be executed like the Monomi Tinman?
* I think I can assume the events took place well before morning, with Hiyoko being killed before Ibuki's death, who obeyed the culprit's request to hang herself. The culprit then shot the video of the fake suicide to hide the time of suicide for some reason.
* I bet one can put the drumstick between the front doors from outside.
* I thought Mikan and Fuyuhiko could've been in this together and help each other's alibis, but I think I can assume that if they were with Hajime at the hotel room before heading to the music venue, they had no time for setting up Hiyoko's body.
* That means only Sonia, Koizumi, Akane and Nagito don't have alibis for the morning body setup.
* It took me a while to realize the obvious possibility of Nagito being an accomplice.
* I wasn't sure whether to trust Monokuma's hint that there's an accomplice, but I think I will on the basis that setting up Hiyoko's body like that seems impossible on one's own.
* I bet the wallpaper and stickers were used to cover up blood.
* If Sonia is the culprit, I can't think of a reason for her to give me the hint of Hiyoko's kimono.
* I wonder if I should think something of the fact that both victims are from Fuyuhiko's sister's incident.
* Regardless, I'm stumped.
* Oh, oh, oh! I know! If there's a misjudgment, any misjudgment including failing to find that Ibuki killed Hiyoko, it'll result in everybody's death besides Nekomaru, and the one with a reason for doing that is Akane.
* It ocurred to me that the video equipment at the crime scene can be accounted for simply by it being an unrelated set of camera/monitor. Still, the stepladder...
* Alright, here's what I think happened: Akane got Nagito to have Ibuki kill whoever, by chance found Hiyoko and ordered Ibuki to kill her at the music venue well before the morning of the discovery. They may have intended for the students to witness a real suicide but if the effects of the Despair Disease began to wear off they had to do something else, so had Ibuki commit suicide right away and set up things for someone to view an imminent suicide attempt alone (judging from the skin tone, it's Nagito), see Ibuki's corpse and while looking for help set Hiyoko's body, thus removing suspicion from Ibuki.
* I think that accounts for everything... besides the attempts at hiding the blood and the attempt at making the music venue look like the conference room, and I'm relying on several assumptions (chiefly, that the one involved is not the killer but wants a mistrial, and that Ibuki is completely obedient), but damn it took me a lot to come up with that.
* Duh, the blood cleaning thing is so that the witness wouldn't realize that Hiyoko had already been killed.
* Will it be that blatant that Akane is basically Hina?
* I thought about the fact that Mikan could notice they're missing, but them acting suspicious is a feature for their plans.
* Alright, I think that's the best I can do. Let's finish this.
I think this is my highest text-length-to-gameplay-length ratio post so far.
I skipped that whole thing.
Be? I assumed it just, was.
Oh that's hilarious. Like, just keep it in mind.
Also you're overlooking someone, either that or I'm right or this chapter is basically the least sensical of all of DR.
After you complete this chapter; the "beloved" according to the rumor mill as this was never really confirmed is BIG SPOILER
* Nobody mentioned the possibility of Ibuki or Hiyoko telling the movie events to Hajime.
* The thing about the drumstick ready being broken sounds so obvious in hindsight.
* Huh, the thing about the wallpaper to conceal the body really caught me off guard.
* Perhaps I should assume that Nagito is never going to be an accomplice, on the basis that having him as accomplice looks like a really bad idea.
* If Chiaki is right that Hiyoko's murder wasn't prepared for, this is where my theory begins to fall apart, isn't it?
* It occurs to me that a good minigame may be "spot the difference" and you have to click on relevant parts of two (different) pictures, in this case the hair of the video/venue suicidal character.
* Huh, they have a point about the lack of footprints in the stepladder.
* I assumed that the stepladder got the blood on the side from falling on top of Hiyoko's blood.
* Yeah, I guess it was too much to expect the music venue to be the actual filming location rather than the conference room.
* So... is this really Mikan's chapter?
* If this weren't a work of fiction I'd have no trouble believing her.
* Huh, rereading the rope Truth Bullet apparently I missed the "according to Mikan" part. At first I actually considered that her autopsy statements could be unreliable but at some point I stopped believing that.
* The fact that the tied-up Monomi is right behind Mikan during this whole talk about hanging makes it all the much creepier.
* I just realized that the yellow tint during nonstop debates makes the pink blood look red.
* That was a short closing argument, for some reason it skips over the actual crime. Regardless, I ended up getting everything wrong. I definitely overthought what Nagito said.
* Mikan's behaviour is going to require an explanation.
* Oh right, the disease.
* When Monokuma mentioned the movie I thought the theme of each chapter would be memories, it seemed like this chapter would be the first counterexample but seems not.
* Regardless, all this stuff only raises more questions.
* From that execution I think I'm going to assume she survived and is going to be a future mastermind or something.
* Regardless, I already miss Tangerine, or at least the one from a day or two ago. I expected her to die later as a victim or maybe some hero-syndrome-like thing or that other similar thing I read about like two weeks ago where you have a dangerous compulsion to nurse people.
* Also nobody mentioned the hair thing after all.
Yeh, I found it unsatisfying.
I'm not good at this.
After reading your latest post:
I don't get it. You mean potential culprits? I accounted for Akane, Nagito, Kazuichi and Sonia who were my main suspects, Mikan, Fuyuhiko, Chiaki and Gundham who had alibis (or so I thought), Nekomaru who is hospitalized, and Byakuya, Teruteru, Mahiru, Peko, Ibuki and Hiyoko who are dead. With Hajime that's all 16 of them.
Edit: Kazuichi, not Koizumi.
Yeah I was referring to this, mainly just that it was really out of left field, so I thought maybe I'd missed something that you would see that would make it less insane.
Don't give them ideas!!
It occurs to me that the new project by the DR team, the one centered around elementary school students, seems to be going nowhere.
Yeah, basically.
I assumed the same. If only.
player: oatsngoats (AGDQ2020)
saves: 16
deaths: ??
resets: ??
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* It occurs to me that Mikan could've argued something about being diseased just like Akane and Nagito, whose disease the other characters readily believed made them unable to act. If nothing else that'd have turned these two into potential culprits.
* I wonder if Mikan's behaviour is indicative of what normal people surrounded by despair but otherwise not-despair-aligned are like.
* I wonder if I should be thinking about the fact that unlike DR1 (Jill aside), as soon as a student remembered The Tragedy, that student wanted to escape to that world, and that's in apparent contradiction of meeting her beloved.
* Regardless, if the Junko girlfriend thing is true, that definitely makes her an outlier and the above points don't apply to her.
* I must resist the temptation to look things up, even if they aren't spoilery (in this case whether there's a DR4 in the making) I may encounter actual spoilers, and what I just read may or may not be spoilery. I better forget about it.
* Dunno what to think about the fact that Monokuma imnediately contradicted himself about whether Monomi belongs to Future Foundation or not.
* Also tying up Hiyoko on your own like that still seems difficult.
* RIP lower row of the report card.
* Also the other day I happened to be thinking that so far no "expert testimony" like Mikan's autopsy had been unreliable. I guess there's a first time for everything.
* Alright, that's probably the most post-trial thinking I've done so far. Time to move on.
* Oooh, I like the DR1 School Mode theme.
* When Byakuya said the stuff about his past being full of distrust I thought he was talking about the becoming head of the Togami family competition thing.
* I bet spending days in a place where everything is monochromatic is maddening.
* Huh, so Monokuma is abandoning psychological motives and is now using life-threats?
* This is a lot of exploration for a single chapter.
* Reminder to self to check what the Monokuma Theater: Morse Code Edition is.
* IIRC three days is the time it takes for hunger to start seriously messing with your health, so *something* is probably about to happen. This would be a good time for Nagito to offer himself as a sacrifice.
* I half expected something special if I gave out food as a present.
* I like the detail that I'm walking slowly now.
* When summoned to the Grape Tower the morning after the explosion, I expected to find food, and the corpse elsewhere. So it was Nekomaru's turn.
* I was hoping I wouldn't have to do an investigation involving a robot body, but here we are.
* I've gotten the last two investigations wrong for assuming that some big clue was a red herring, I'll try not to make that same mistake again.
* It's only appropriate that oil/robot-blood is blue.
* Ahhh, so the investigation is divided in two places, interesting. So I'm Nagito now, gotta admit that Nagito's optimistic hope insanity has made the game much more interesting than it'd have otherwise been.
* Also when it seemed like Makoto would get executed back in the farce trial, for a while I thought the game would continue with Kyouko.
* It occurs to me that the Four Devas of Destruction could reach Mechamaru's sleep button.
* Alright, Akane's and Fuyuhiko's accounts on the time of the rumbling sound match.
* It just occurred to me that damaging the elevator should be against regulations, as well as destroying the camera/monitor in Chapter 3.
* I wonder if I should think something of the fact that the intro video shows for a split second what looks like a 3DCG scene of Gundham over a magic circle that could be an execution.
* Ahhh, another game. This one reminds me even more of those free horror games.
* Those don't look like cardinal directions to me.
* Interpreting those blinks as binary was the first thing I tried, but I still dunno how to input them correctly.
* There, done. It took me a bit. I used two hints, one for the NEWS thing (though I didn't mean to get that hint, I think I would've needed it anyways) and one for the binary thing (I tried combinations of big/little endian, blinking lights as 0/1, interpretting the left bar as 1 and the "O" in "OK" as zero, to no avail).
* But Nagito is lucky enough for Russian Roulette... right?
* 'k
* Alright, so Nagito agrees with my off-hand idea that there's similarities between both killing games's murders, and this one is probably a suicide... yeah I doubt it.
* Aww, Nagito doesn't like me now. Well he was a weirdo anyways.
* I remember finding out about the second reserve and the riot and stuff, but I can't remember where.
* Alright, since Kazuichi did fix the elevator I suppose that removes the reason I had for suspecting him.
* If I can't trust that Strawberry Hall and Grape Hall are the same that changes things drastically.
* So Nagito found out he's an Ultimate Hope or something and is now arrogant about it.
* Hajime says the clock broke at 7:30 am, but I can't trust that it was 7:30 pm instead. While we're at it I can't trust the other clocks either.
* Alright, that's it for the investigation. It seems this is going to be hard.
* I think the most elegant way for the Strawberry/Grape hall to work is for one "building" to be above the other and the elevator simply wraps around the structure(s?) in a 180° helicoidal path. That said maybe I can get away with assuming nothing about it and that it simpky does what the students saw it doing.
* I should find out if the Ultimate Weapon is a Super High School Level Weapon. Regardless it doesn't seem like I can find out anything about it/him/her right now, I hope it's not relevant.
* I had doubts about whether you'd expect pebbles to be under him and not above him if the pilar falls on him, but given that there's blood in the damaged areas I'm guessing he was killed after that anyways.
* It's possible that the killer set up a trap for him to get crushed by the pilar but survived without limbs (the Monokuma File mentions this explicitly), then finished him off.
* We never got around to testing if Mechamaru in sleep mode was detected by the Hall's motion sensors.
* I'd like to know the details of the inter-building travel, things can change depending on where it can be done.
* I hope this is not one of those cases where important details are revealed during the trial, that's the limit I set for myself for case solving.
* I'll have to think about this some more.
I always forget which one is big endian and which one is little endian.
* With Nagito being full of himself and his survival-of-the-hopest worldview it wouldn't be weird if he's a future culprit.
* Let's see, Dr1Ch4 involved suicide, characters mistakenly thinking they're blackened, the traitor dying, a closed room and other stuff. But two things I don't need to guess for is that the victim is the strongest student and that both students are represented (with a statue or in actuality) at the buildings.
* Also I think the fact that crime #1 in both killing games was instigated by someone other than the culprit is much more coincidental than what Nagito mentioned about both involving stabbings.
* Also so far whenever one of these coincidences comes up it's been part of a ploy by the culprit to lead us astray.
* I just realized that there's a DR3 girl who looks identical to (and presumably is) Fuyuhiko's sister.
* On second thought if Kozuichi couldn't have fixed the elevator, Monokuma would've, or otherwise allow us to go through and continue the investigation.
* Ooooh if you attach the wire to the handle and wrap it around the pilar, you can make it tumble down (and dislodge the handle). Assuming the hall really moves of course.
* No wait, if there's blood "on" the damaged parts doesn't that mean the pillar hit him there? Those teenage years spent watching forensics documentaries didn't pay off.
* The hammer is clean so that's clearly not the murder weapon or what dismembered him. If the Ultimate Weapon is involved I don't think I'll figure anything without knowing what it is so maybe I'm better off assuming it's the pillar? Of course it could also be a completely different non-Ultimate weapon too.
* The first thing I thought when the boys were talking about hearing the sound the first thing I thought was to check which characters were using deluxe rooms, but I almost forgot until now about 24 hours later. Note to self: do so.
* Dunno how to account for the air climatization thing.
* Checked the rooms thing, Gundham shouldn't have heard the alarm (well, he could've had the door open or something but then, why?).
* I haven't accounted for Monokuma Tai Chi at 7:00 am and Mechaneko's clock stopped at 7:30, if it's am the characters should've assisted or gotten reprimanded for not doing so, and if it's pm the characters should've been awake, my only ideas involve Monokuma doing weird stuff.
* I wonder what I should think of the facy that characters from different buildings should be able to hear the pillar crashing down (Hajime and Akane on grape side, Fuyuhiko, Kazuichi and Gandham on strawberry side). They can't all be lying, so...
* It also occurs to me is that the Four Devas of Destruction are the ones who havecit easiest at attaching the wire to the pillar.
* On second thought if Nekomaru died when his alarm went off, if what I speculated about the handle wire pillar thing that'd bring timing issues about the motion detectors that I don't know how to sort out in a non-contrived way.
* Oh yeah, I assumed right away that the scratches on the handle was because Nekomaru tried to force the grape door at Strawberry Hall open, I didn't think much of it but now I know that's likely to be important.
* I don't really think there's much to the chained door besides giving people on grape side a visible reason to believe people on strawberry side could enter the tower.
* Even before the murder I presumed the law of robotics could be involved, but the only thing I can think of is Sonia arguing non-convincingly that Nekomaru couldn't have killed himself.
* In addition to all the reasons to believe the culprit sleeps at raspberry side, there's the fact that too many girls have died recently.
* I wanted to do the class trial today (or rather, on the day that ended some time ago) but things came up and didn't have much time to play, just rehashed the investigation and thought some more about it, I didn't want to do the trial without a hypothesis or with the possibility of having to interrupt it. Perhaps I should've played it more on Sunday so I could've thought of something on Monday. Regardless I'll think of something during the day and do the trial at night.
I wonder if it counts as an update if I didn't actually tread new content.
I always got the feeling that Mikan was more insane than she initially let on, even before her chapter. She was very neurotic to start with, and I'm assuming that's her base personality. I'm not sure I should elaborate here because I can't remember how much you find out about the overall setting before the last chapter.
Again, this is getting really deep into I-don't-want-to-spoil-things territory, but she, specifically, wasn't that close or special to Junko. There's a lot to be said about uh... erm... yeah I can't say much more.
Yeah the chapters in DR2 are significantly longer than DR1, but you only start really feeling it after a while.
This is kind of a spoiler, but despite certain circumstances in DRV3, this never happens again.
Don't be robophobic, mate!
There might be a reason for this, either um... errors in something or other... y'know, spoilers.
I gave up. Really quickly too.
Maaaaaan this part of the game went on foreeeeeeeeeeever.
I'm glad DRV3 didn't have a chapter this full on with the "enclosed space" thing.
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Nooooooooooope.
Not much so far, we saw the Hope's Peak Academy ruins, we were told about the Future Foundation which we're told are the ones who brought us here (thus I'm assuming they're the same as or on the same side of those who turned Hope's Peak Academy into a refuge) and this chapter the students have been given reports about the Killing School Life.
* Speaking of which I'm suspecting the world's been destroyed (beyond the whole Tragedy thing I mean) and we're on what used to be the city around Hope's Peak Academy. That or there are several Hope's Peak academies around the world, I've thought since the end of DR1 that there are several hope refuges.
* Alright, here's what I think happened. Gundham set the clocks 2 hours behind actual time and set the strawberry side alarm to 5:30 am. At 7:00 am Nekomaru went to the Monokuma Tai Chi and one or more of the Four Devas of Destruction crawled onto him and pressed his sleep button, then wired him up, the pillar and the handle together (and I have to assume it's done in a way that causes the pebbles to end up below Nekomaru). At 7:30 another Deva presses the grape button to trigger the pillar's crashing down, for which if the characters consider to be thee time he died it'd give him an alibi. At some point aftewards Gundham shows up, and summons him into the void if he was still alive, which he probably wasn't as he then probably planted the hammer. Then he (or one of the Devas) damaged the hall and elevator buttons, making it seem like the strawberry guys couldn't have done it.
* I feel like I have it right on what happened outside the hall but what happened inside is iffy.
* If they bothered to draw an image for the event of Hajime and Akane trying to pick up the pillar, that's probably important.
* It also occurs to me that you can probably use the elevator wire trick to behead Mechamaru, that'd explain the pebbles but the scene layout with Nekomaru near the center doesn't seem indicative of thay, and the wire doesn't seem soaked in oil.
* I feel like I'm only targeting Gundham because of the versatility the Four Devas of Destruction grant him (and the Deluxe Room thing).
* In his defense every case so far has involved a character turning completely different than expected (Nagito, Peko and Mikan) and I don't think we actually know much about him to really say that anything about him is unexpected.
* That's all I can think of. Let's march.
* Alright, finally I got a straight answer on where the pillar fragments shoumd be if the pillar falls on Nekomaru.
* Oh, oh, right before someone says it, attach the wire to Nekomaru's head and the pillar (and the handle?) then make it fall over. That'd explain the pebbles.
* The Ultimate Weapon is not the Super High School Level Weapon. Such are the benefits of having the voiceovers in Japanese.
* Sonia is arguing about this a lot. I hope she's not the culprit, she's one of my relationship targets.
* On the Octagon Suspicious Spot puzzle I thought something wrong but similar, where the union of the first floor of the Strawberry Hall and elevator (both rectangular) form an octagon.
* Alright, so the Ultimate Weapon is the building itself, good thing I didn't spend a minute thinking about something so pointless.
* Huh, falling. That makes sense.
* That's a really strong doorknob if Mechamaru's weight alone wasn't supposed to dislodge it.
* According to the (outdated?) Report Card, Nekomaru weighs less than Byakuya.
* Alright, Select Someone, the time has come and it's... Gundham!
* Pity it had to be him, out of all the characters in the series so far who aren't less of a character and more of a very long running gag, he was my favourite.
* It seems the other characters don't consider the Four Devas of Destruction as useful as I did, Gundham included. Planting the hammer aside I thought he coild've commited the nefarious deed without even leaving his dark lair. Maybe he doesn't become blackened if it's the Devas who set the trap?
* I'm pretty sure the Panic Talk Action phrase puzzle is the first time they're called The Four Dark Devas.
* In the end it turned out the pillar was a red herring.
* whoo, I think this is the closest I've been in any case. Other than the specifics of the trap and the thing about Gundham getting stuck unable to reach his room I got it mostly right. tbh I still like my other trap ideas better.
* Hmmmm... even if he says otherwise I think he would've been okay ending up as a sacrifice for the others. Regardless, he took it all in stride, LARPing until the very end.
* Yeah, the game's intro was a spoiler, gotta take care not to pay much attention to DRV3's intro when I start playing it.
* RIP Gundham, in the end you did have magic powers. May the denizens of pet heaven shiver at your ominous presence.
* I think this is the first time I see Sonia crying.
* I forgot why I'm not suspecting Nagito, maybe I was told the traitor was on the despair side I dunno.
* Right after writing the above I was told the traitor is from the Future Foundation, so...
* My two relationship targets have made it this far (Kozuichi and Sonia), assuming I get the chance of spending time with them I'll max their Hope Fragment thing. With Chiaki that's three characters maxed out, I should consider myself lucky (though Chiaki's final event was a disappointment).
* So chapter 5, with 7 surviving students. I can no longer take for granted that more people will die, so that's good, unless more people die.
* Perhaps I should start thinking about who the mastermind is. When I got spoiled I thought Junko was the mastermind for the whole series but she died in a way that doesn't lend itself to "you only thought I was dead" (don't clarify this pls (edit:*)) so I'll start thinking of other people. I don't think any of the named characters in DR2 have a chance of being it (Sparkling Justice?) so maybe it's one of the DR1 students, so... I dunno, Makoto? Kyouko?
* I wonder if I should think of something about the fact that being around despair only makes Nagito more hopeful.
I found it interesting, but I missed feeling like I was in Jabberwock Island. Also I prefer the more psychological motivations, the hunger thing felt less like messing with the characters's heads and more like torturing them into obedience.
Finally got around to doing this.
.* Edit:
Perhaps I should explain where I'm coming from. One of the first things I saw from the series, well before I was seriously intending to go through it, was an anime scene of (spoilers?):
Chiaki going through an obstacle course of death, with Junko playing Monokuma's role, hence how I got spoiled about Junko's involvement and perhaps more. I think it's fortunate that with DR1's ending I can't tell for certain that this is canon and I'd like to keep it that way until the time comes.
* It occurs to me that it'd make sense for Kyouko to follow her father's footsteps and become a hope-mastermind.
* Also the previous chapter involved neither memories nor a character turning out different than expected (beyond the "how could you" factor).
* I wondered what would've happened if I had triggered a Report Card even that involves doing things outside the Funhouse.
* I wonder if Nekomaru would've died if he hadn't fallen onto that pillar. A fourth floor fall often isn't deadly depending on how you fall, and that's for us humans with a spine to break.
* Hmm, something that looks like a city lends credence to the destroyed world thing.
* I just found out by accident I can use Q and E to make Hajime reach places instantly in the island side-scrolling screen.
* I can't reach Hiyoko's motel room, I'm pretty sure I keft a Monokuma doll there.
* I'll never tire of Nagito's insane laughter.
* Chiaki looks broken without the arcade machine.
* The password at Nezumi Castle looks like 11037. And I'm not missing the fact that that's the rotated LEON message from back then. I'm guessing it's a reference rather than something important.
* So things are looking like Kozuichi is the traitor, maybe?
* Ohhhh, Nagito. The killer really seems to have hated you.
* Let's see. Sonia is the obvious suspect (gee, I always suspect her), and the culprit took away the fire extinguisher and filled the fire grenades with fuel.
* I can't discount the possibility that he was killed by the mastermind. Perhaps the mastermind didn't like him going to such lengths to find the traitor. I bet that has to do with the timer at the park, like if we find the traitor before the timer runs out we win or something. Regardless if it really is the mastermind I won't find it out yet so I'm better off seeing if I can pin this down onto a student.
* Oh man, who was it who told me to look for the fire extinguishers? Wasn't it Sonia?
* I figure the Monokuma panels were arranged as dominoes so as to trigger the fire in some way, perhaps by making the curtain go over the lighter.
* Hajime suspects Sonia too.*shrug*
* Note to self to read up on hydrolysis on Wikipedia. That could mean the sprinklers render it harmless, maybe?
* I wonder if it's possible to be an Ultimate Reserve Course Student.
* Hmmmm... so if the victim of chapter 1 wasn't Byakuya but the Ultimate Imposter, maybe the real Byakuya is the mastermind?
* If the time of death weren't specified I'd probably be assuming it was way before the fire at noon.
* I can't help but notice that Sonia's Account specifies that Monomi apparently saw her trying out a bomb.
* I wonder if I should take note of the fact that the Monokuma file doesn't specify the cause of death.
* I want to think the killing weapon is poison inside one of the fire grenades, because that makes several things fit together, but then I can't see the point of the spear.
* Perhaps the blood pattern on Nagito's left hand is because he was holding the weight attached to the spear cord, which he released when he died. Can I trust that the spear would pierce him if it falls from about the girder height?
* Contrived hypothesis: the culprit (perhaps the mastermind) set things up so that the blackened is whoever threw the fire grenade with poison in it, which is a wild guess and likely to result in a mistrial. If that's the case his Ultimate Lucky Student talent would come in handy.
* I'm not convinced. I feel like I can figure out mostly everything except anything that helps me figure out which student did it, all I have is Sonia's suspicious behaviour.
* Oh well, I'll hsve time to think about this. It keeps happening. I have a knack for being suspicious of future victims.
In NSB 2, the most annoying thing about the whole game was that you had to take pictures and show them to this weird girl who would determine if you'd found any new colors. This color guide shows just how completely ridiculous and annoying the process was.
In NSB 3, the game is just about 20x longer than it's prequels, because it has a whole idol raising element (you have to help three up and coming idols and one established one) and whilst this is fun, it's quite tedious.
But I'm here today to complain about the regular customers to your store. It seems the less they want to buy from you, the more they want to tell you their life story.
Generally, the best sort of customer in this game is the one who requests a full outfit. To be more specific, it's best to have customers who want Chic, Baby Doll or Gothic clothing, because that costs the most.
Purple Moon, the Cosplay Brand, also costs a lot, but this is the first game in the series that has it as a regular brand rather than a special one and I'm still yet to unlock it.
Usually, these sorts of customers don't talk too much.
Then we have the two girls who come in, and they just can't stop talking, and all they want is a basic black hat from Basic U that costs like $10 and for goodness sakes why.
You're close in relating the two, but you've connected the pieces the wrong way round.
I'm actually wondering now if I would confirm something if you worked it out correctly, considering it would still be a spoiler.
There is indeed something wrong with the world.
That would have been cool. I can confirm the DRV3 one is not the same as the DR1 version. Plus, in DR2 the students are supposed to be on a field trip from the original Hope's Peak. I mean, the least I can do is confirm that these kids did once attend the original Hope's Peak.
I think in DRV3 this only genuinely happens once, but everybody is that game is really out-there right from the start. Like, more than usual.
Yeah, but a traitor to whom and for what reason.
I'm really glad that you've entirely forgotten the whole DR2 tirade I went on a in this very thread last year (maybe late 2018-early 2019). Do not look it up because it covers everything.
Gee, the anime really wasn't subtle about things.
正解！！ (Obviously this is a spoiler)
Well then. I've said something about a similar thing in this post, but I won't confirm what it was~...
Huh, I never noticed this.
(You'll get it when you finish the game).
To be clear it's a reference rather than a clue for this current case.
Well, I guess she was going to do something like that at some point.
* If it weren't because of the previous chapter, I'd consider the spear thing as an attempt to make it look like it was technically a suicide and there's no living blackened. But as with Nekomaru, those traps count as killings, so...
* I can't really think of anything to account for the burnt rope or Monomi's notebook. It's not unprecedented that a character breaks into another's cottage, so someone could've found/planted the poison stuff at Nagito's cottage... yeah this part feels especially weak.
* In addition to the Sonia suspicion, we didn't hear any music when we entered the factory without her. I guess it's up to Monomi to confirm/deny the thing about trying out the fireworks, although even then she still had a chance to set things up. If it's not her it could be anyone, including the mastermind.
* There's something that kinda looks like a cellphone over the music player, perhaps someone (Nagito?) did something so that the music player begins playing on its own at the right time.
* Alright, here's what I think happened. The culprit or Nagito filled one or more of the fire grenades with the poison (if it was Nagito, it was to turn the warehouse into a trap for us) and sets the Monokuma panels and lighter so that the warehouse catches fire when the door is opened. The culprit then finds Nagito and immobilizes him with the stabbings and ropes, and sets the spear so that it stabs him if he lets go of the weight, and slices his wrist so that the blood makes this evident. We then hear the music, open the door, place catches fire and we throw the fire grenades at it, killing Nagito in the process. Sonia is the one in the best position to do all this but a lot of it doesn't make sense to me so it's tempting to say the mastermind did it.
* I noticed I'm becoming more diligent intrying to solve these mysteries on my own (perhaps be ause there are now less of them), in this and the previous case I replayed the events and realized I only know of the fire extinguishers because Sonia told me about it (and I have no reason to doubt she had been at the break room before), so that makes her less suspicious.
* OTOH she also warned about inhaling the smoke. At any rate I hope it's not the weeby princess.
* OTOH Hajime seems to doubt he was killed by a student, and Sonia's been helpful throughout the investigation, which usually means innocence.
* Wait, duh, the thing that looks like a cellphone is the player itself, that makes the thing about being started remotely more difficult, but strictly speaking not impossible.
* Also if the fireworks test is false she'd have done well in making up a stofy that Monomi can't refute.
* I can't come up with a way for both Nagito having set up the poison and one of the students being the culprit, as the cottage was not broken into.
* Alright, I'm guessing the mastermind is behind everything.
Things are coming to a close. I wanted to do the Class Trial today but it'll be better if I leave that and the rest of the game for this weekend.
Uhhh, oops, sorry.
I mean, of course, it doesn't entirely give things away.
I don't think I ever tried to look at a case in it's entirely and figure out who did it, but I would kind of look at the circumstances of the story and feel my way there. It worked at least half the time.
Except in DRV3, where I was so obsessed with this one character finally being the culprit because she just seemed like she was the sort who would be one and then it turned out she got murdered instead. Thankfully, this was kind of early on.
I might have overdone it this time, though, replaying the whole day with the benefit of hindsight let me see things with an undertone I'm probably not "supposed" to perceive easily, I think I'll take it easy from here on.
* Why is Gundham's mourning portrait symbol the actual letter X?
* For some reason this game I've gotten stuck three times on Nonstop Debates because I do something wrong with one of the first things I try and then don't try again until much later (this time it was the thing were the duct tape meant he wasn't tortured looking for a confession).
* I thought the Monokuma panels were made of cardboard, but the characters are acting like they're some heavy thing.
* If Nagito tying himself up is brought up this early it can't be true.
* Huh, so that's what the plushie was for. If he really set himself up like that then... well, I dunno.
* The thing Chiaki said about thinking one step at a time is so true.
* So... should I take for granted now that he set himself up like that?
* This is the first time I get stuck on a choose-the-Truth-Bullet game. Despite the fact that it was one of the first things I noticed, it didn't occur to me that Chiaki was thinking about the Monokuma File not mentioning the cause of death.
* This (improved) Hangman's Gambit game got much harder suddenly.
* So... I'm guessing Nagito was a willing victim, maybe?
* Huh, so it seems what I said about the blackening roulette turned out to be a likely outcome.
* I suspected Sonia but in the end she even offered herself as a sacrifice for the trial.
* It occurs to me that they can find the blackened by having each one try to kill another student, Monokuma should stop non-blackened characters from doing so as there can only be one killer, so whoever successfully kills another character was the blackened. Dark, but it should work.
* I'm really afraid of what will happen after this Closing Argument. I have the feeling the obstacle course of death thing may have been canon after all.
* I still wonder if only one fire grenade was poisoned.
* Hmmm... if Nagito targeted the traitor and we know that Chiaki is not the traitor (do we really?) I guess she's safe... for now.
* At this point I still don't know what's so traitorous about the traitor.
* This is easily the tensest Select Someone puzzle I've done.
* I've noticed a correlation between having a character of self-sacrifice and being the traitor. Though I should remember that in this case the traitor is afilliated to the Future Foundation.
* During this Nonstop Debate it occurred me to say that Chiaki swapped her card specifically because she's the traitor.
* That's easily the most elaborate execution so far. Junko's included.
* Maaaaaaaan Chiaki is dead.
* For most of the game I assumed both Kyouko's would survive or nearly make it, but it turned out both died in the same chapter. Well, I guess it is the (I assume) second to last chapter after all.
* So I got a lot of stuff right... well, I predicted a lot of different things so I didn't need to be the Ultimate Lucky Student to get some of it right. I did believe Nagito had been forced into that, I don't remember why I stopped believing he was a willing victim (to a knowing killer), perhaps it was the duct tape. Regardless this trial was simultaneously among the ones I guessed best and the one that surprised me the most.
* So it seems the obstacle course of death scene wasn't canon, apparently. (No answering!)
* Maaaaaaaan Chiaki is dead.
* Oh yeah, the glitch thing, I forgot about that. Although I figured it out, when it happened at first at the beginning if the game I thought my graphics card was acting up, which it often does.
* I guess the 11037 thing did come up after all.
* This end-of-chapter part is taking quite a lot. Perhaps this is really the end of the game? Goddamnit.
My body wasn't ready.
* The glitch screen effect gets old afyer a while.
* So I'm guessing the "???" at the ship was Izuru, and the one who revealed the murder of 13 Ultimates was Junko.
* My pet Pigimi left me.
* So Junko was the one who started this whole despair thing. I had kinda assumed she was just part of its clandestine branch at pre-Tragedy Hope's Peak Academy and eventually became something like the cult's minister of information.
* The more they say Junko is dead, the less convincing it sounds. I guess this Ultimate Imposter (Izuru?) is involved?
* Finally the music room comes up (well, it did come up in School Mode but that doesn't count), I was wondering what was up with those unused rooms.
* Hiyoko's newspaper article... I guess everything can be explained away with it being a video game simulation, but...
* Oh right, Izuru was the name of that person in those portraits.
* I off-handedly imagined Alter Ego being involved but after reading about the Ultimate Programmer's research being involved in the Psychotherapeutic therapy thing, that's much more likely now, either directly or both being based on the same research.
* Gosh the green hexadecimal screen effect is the worst.
* Oh hey, Alter Ego really is here. Or a copy. DR1's Alter Ego's death was super dumb (or at least, its announcement was), so I'm going to believe it's the same Alter Ego.
* ngl the idea of everything having been a simulation sounds cheap. We'll see...
* If Chiaki and Usami/Monomi are Observers... perhaps they are computer programs? I hadn't missed the fact that both Chiaki and Chihiro have a programmer father (and different surnames, but that didn't stop the Despair Sisters), but now it seems more likely that Chihiro is the father and Alter Ego is their big brother.
* The game does acknowledge that everything having been fake would make it meaningless, so I guess that's good.
* Let's see, if I'm going to solve this mystery it'd be nice to know what the mystery is about, so I better think about:
* * Who the rl Future Foundation traitor is (Byakuya?)
* * Who the Remnant of Despair is/are. (All of us?)
* * Who Izuru is. (Fat Byakuya?)
* * Who the Ultimate Imposter is. (Izuru?)
* * What happened to the (real) world. (Mass extinction followed by an attempt at repopulation?)
* That's a lot to think about.
Tomorrow is going to be an interesting day (well, today several hours later).
She is though! (not a spoiler)
Oh my gosh that, yeah, it was bad.
I don't think it's a spoiler to ask like... wasn't this obvious as soon as the infodumps started?
You never find this out.
Again, I actually never thought anybody could be Izuru aside from who it was, considering circumstances surrounding certain people!
* I figure reaching Nezumi castle was one of the things Alter Ego stopped the virus from doing. I can't think of anything else, though.
* Ohhh, of course, Mikan was (one of?) the Remnants of Despair.
* I had a hunch that even though the Future Foundation seemed hope-aligned, that they didn't necessafily have the kids' best interest in mind, apparently that was partially right, but Makoto let go of the idea.
* When the game started I assumed the hope fragments thing was to make the characters reluctant to kill each other, but it seems instead it was part of the anti-despair therapy. It's obvious to me now that Mikan was, and Hajime is a clear candidate, though the total number of Remnants is still not obvious to me. Ehhh I'm going to assume it's all 15 of us, otherwise I'd have read more about weeding them out of the group or something. I guess the Tragedy of Hope's Peak is not something you survive without it affecting you. Well, knowing these two things that kinda narrows it down to Nagito.
Wait then who was the "???" during the ship event. And for that matter what was the ship event? Also I still don't know how to account for the portraits. I'm guessing the founder is simply the origin of the pseudonym? Well, I suppose they do share eye colour.
Yeah, it's not obvious to me, but I guess the hope zealot is the clear candidate.
Though looking at the blackboard's subject list, yeah, I'm probably focusing too much of my attention on the Ultimate Imposter.
* So, as for who spread the virus, ummm, no idea. Byakuya does things for weird reasons but that's about it. Also Touko is crazy. If I keep suspecting these two at some point I'll get it right.
* I presume I'm not close to being able to figure out the shutdown sequence yet.
Even knowing that the game's Jabberwock Island was a virtual world and the motivation for the school trip, I don't feel closer to figuring things out.
* Even if it really turns out the virtual world Chiaki is virtual, I can't discount the possibility of her being a simulation of a real Chiaki. Same goes for Usami except she doesn't seem like a real person.
I kinda want to repeat the investigation, just like how I said I wouldn't.
Hmmm... well, I did skim it, there's the part that might screw up the mystery if I misunderstood it, and it was late at night so that's especially likely.
* Yeah, I misunderstood, although the one who spread the virus is a member of Future Foundation, it's not a given that it's one of the six DR1 survivors. Assuming it's a character I know by name, that doesn't expand the candidate's list very much, however.
* Also I had missed the part were Makoto et al were forced to watch the events unfold.
Alright, the time has come.
Let's see...
* * Makoto - Might as well believe everything in this chapter is a lie, no.
* * Kyoukou - No.
* * Hina - No.
* * Hiro - Maybe if simulations counted as paranormal, but otherwise no.
* * Byakuya - Maybe?
* * Touko - Not impossible.
* * Real-life Chiaki - It's a reach that she exists, but that would explain the video game theming.
* * Real-life Usami - Who?
* * Alter Ego - See Makoto.
* * Someone I forgot - Maybe?
* Also I've been assuming whoever dies in the virtual world dies irl, but perhaps I shouldn't be assuming this until it's suggested.
* Alright, exam time. Let's finish this.
* Oh yeah, I forgot about the main cast thing. I wonder what that's about.
* "Game world", hhmmm...
* Man, nine-bullets Nonstop Debates.
* Hiyoko grew a lot in those 2-3 years, I though more time had passed.
* So they really are dead. Or at least in a vegetative state.
* Oh hey, it's Makoto. Perhaps I should count how many empty spaces are there.
* Alright, so that's what the ship event was.
* It occurs to me Hajime should've asked Makoto what the password was. Maybe Monokuma realky could reach the castle after all?
* I kinda wanted to see what the fake real-world was like.
* So that's the virus's (final?) form.
* Seems virus!Junko is less erratic than the original.
* Man I keep selecting the wrong options trying to get a bad ending.
* Oh hey it's Makoto again.
* The Funhouse starvation thing sounds like murdering the students, though.
* I wonder if I should think something about the fact that 2, 3, 5 and 7 are the first prime numbers.
* Oh hey, those two. I guess it wasn't Byakuya after all.
* I wonder if I'll find out who uploaded the virus in this game.
* ...So, Hajime is Izuru? tbh it's super non-obvious to me.
* Hmmm... so if Izuru uploaded the virus, does that mean Izuru was part of the Future Foundation, and uploaded the virus while in the game world? This can't be right.
* The DR2 characters don't seem as bothered as they should about the idea of their friends' minds being replaced with Junko's.
* At first I thought the Nihil beach thing was a bad ending.
* Oh hey, Chiaki is here.
* Things got cool all of the sudden. Tho the super-saiyan-ish thing is a bit too silly imo
* And so the world ends.
* Awww, that was sweet. Even though it's less ambiguous than it was in DR1 I'm even more curious about the characters' fates than I was back then. Better keep that despair in check.
* On that topic it seems I was right in being optimistic about the setting back then.
* Though I feel like I missed a few things about the Izuru thing. Edit: replaying the ship scene I see he did vaguely mention the virus plan, but other than that *shrug*
* Also I assumed Jabberwock Island was occupied by Future Foundation, but judging from the epilogue I'm guessing it was only for Makoto, Kyouko and Byakuya to create the school trip.
* So Akane has survived two killing games now.
* In the end I maxed out Hope Fragments with Chiaki, Sonia and Kazuichi, and got two with Gundham, Nekomaru, Akane, Hiyoko and Peko.
THE END
I'm hyped like whoa rn
I think I'll do the same as before and do the extra things in this game before jumping to another one. I gots 999 Monocoins this time, perhaps I should've spent some, but I probably won't be needing more.
Also I'm aware that DRV3 is not the next game that's been released. Perhaps I should play something besides that next? Perhaps side material? True.
tbh I still don't see the purpose of that plot point.
I see now. It may not have been confirmed but I can't see how it can be anything but that.
Yeah, I understand now, though ultimately she was an outlier anyways, what I had in mind was described near the end with people growing increasingly uncivilized.
I think you misunderstood, I meant they were both on the pro-hope side (by those who turned the Academy into a refuge I meant the headmaster, Class 78 and whoever else was involved, before Junko took over).
I thought you were referring to the Junko hand but looking up that part again it seems like a normal hand (which I suppose is how he would remember it).