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"I pay for you, be my slave."

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  • RedEyedAbyssRedEyedAbyss
    edited 2011-06-25 21:49:50

    Thank you.

    That's standard parenting fare really. You should at least try to see their point and if you still disagree with it, fine. Of course, a major issue I had with your complaints is that we never got to see the other side, so it's a relief you finally explained something.

  • Miles11Miles11
    That's...horrible, Chagen. I'm sorry that you have to put up with it...Nobody really deserves to go through that.

    And thank you, sincerely, for sharing...I know it must have been hard to talk about.
  • SchitzoSchitzo
    They're somethin' else.
    That really does suck. You'll have to tough it out until you're 18, legally. And even then, you'll have to have either a lot of knowhow or friends in high places if you want them out of your hair.

    Where there's a will, though, there's a way. Good luck.
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    They push there beliefs on you and argue and yell.

    Is that all?
  • Miles11Miles11
    Vivi, I have to say...when all your parents do is try to force their beliefs down your throat whilst also attempting to take as much control over your life as possible...it gets rather miserable, especially when you *know* you can't do anything about it.

    *hugs Vivi*

    Please don't be mean :(
  • GLORIOUSLeaderGLORIOUSLeader
    When in Turkey, ROCK THE FUCK OUT
    We have to be mean and callous. This is IJBM. 
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    I wasn't being mean. I was being realistic.

    Suck it up, Chagen.
  • RedEyedAbyssRedEyedAbyss
    edited 2011-06-25 22:02:11
    ^^Please don't strawman. All this time we've been led to believe they were outright abusive.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    @Chagen How did they beat you?
  • Miles11Miles11
    @Abyss, who is strawmanning? Me or Vivi? I'm having a hard time telling.

    If it's me, I apologize. I don't mean to come across as a strawman, I just...sympathize with him. It hurts to see someone else going through the same thing I am, and it hurts even more to see him being told to suck it up.

    If being empathetic is a bad thing, I sincerely apologize.
  • snowfoxofdeathsnowfoxofdeath
    edited 2011-06-25 22:07:55
    Snowy Foxes

    I agree with Miles. Parents pushing their beliefs on you can really suck. It's a good thing that Chagen has the will to form his own beliefs, even if not everyone agrees with those either, and he needs to work on expressing his thoughts in a way that does not provoke these shitstorms. Working on not exaggerating and jumping on people for not getting the point is a good start.

  • RedEyedAbyssRedEyedAbyss
    edited 2011-06-25 22:13:31

    No, I just felt GLORIOUSLeader's snarky comment was pointlessly unwarranted.

    You are right for being empathetic, but personally, I think Chagen needs more constructive criticism than e-hugs, such as what snowfox said. I'd also add that a lot of his problems stem from thinking only of himself and not considering what other people think/feel, which he should put more effort into.

  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    The exaggeration is a large part of it.

    I'm fairly sure there are a few people here who are/have been actually physically abused, whereas the most Chagen has revealed is being spanked.
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    Chagen is not a slave. Point blank.
  • Miles11Miles11
    This is true, Snow.

    Of course, would it be unreasonable to believe that he might be taking after his parents as far as his strategy for defending and expressing his beliefs is concerned? I don't know him or his parents well enough personally to actually believe such a thing, but I don't see it as impossible...it would explain a lot, actually.

    *shakes head*

    I think too much...
  • SchitzoSchitzo
    They're somethin' else.
    Seconding Miles
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Chagen is not a slave. Point blank.

    Do they make you do the washing? Wash up? Vacuum? Mop? Wash the walls? Scrub the toilet?

    Do they ask you to do anything beyond three or four chores?
  • GLORIOUSLeaderGLORIOUSLeader
    When in Turkey, ROCK THE FUCK OUT
    Alright, fine. I apologize.

    Part of the reason I say this is because my life wasn't exactly a walk through a springtime meadow either, but I've moved past it (ironically, by doing the exact opposite of what you're supposed to, but I digress).

    Other than your dad being a moron and your brother being a deadbeat (and your parents being abusive, of course, but that seems to have passed), it's stuff you're going to have to live with, because that's life. Although there are plenty of morons and deadbeats in the real world, let me tell you. 
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    You're asking Chagen this, Cygan?
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    I am.

    I'm just wondering.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    Cygan: The title of this thread is obvious hyperbole.

    Anyway, it's only my dad that pushes his beliefs. Otherwise, they do back off a lot. They don't really control my life at all, they just threaten it sometimes.
  • snowfoxofdeathsnowfoxofdeath
    Snowy Foxes
    Hyperboles in the thread title is just asking for a shitstorm mmkay
  • Miles11Miles11
    This...seems conflicting with what was said before...still, at least you're honest.

    Albeit, I will ask what you mean by "control", as a parent can control a child in many different ways...
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    Then why the hell are you making a big fuss? Saying it's like rape and all this crap.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Anyway, it's only my dad that pushes his beliefs. Otherwise, they do back off a lot. They don't really control my life at all, they just threaten it sometimes.

    Can you tell me how they used to beat you?
  • Miles11Miles11
    Hm...actually, before this becomes a shitstorm, may I personally ask Chagen to elaborate a little more in general?

    I know it would be difficult, and that I'm asking about things that border upon stalker levels, but...I'm genuinely concerned for him, and I want to know if it's as bad as it seems.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    Cygan: My dad used to be way more violent with a belt than he needed to be, and he constantly threatens to beat me with his belt....for things like liberals existing or his own failures.

    I'm not kidding, he'll be angry at how he doesn't have enough money and then threaten to hit me for it.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Ah.

    Chagen... Can I PM you with some details on my own past, just for reference?
  • RedEyedAbyssRedEyedAbyss
    edited 2011-06-25 22:41:04
    How does he treat your mother? Bloke certainly doesn't sound healthy.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    Abyss: He treats her like a child, calling her a "pimp" and an "example of the idle class". He also seems to treat her in a sexist manner, always saying she should do X because girls apparently do X for whatever reason.

    They fight alot. They deal with it by not communicating very often. The two hold a lot of contempt for each other

    Cygan: That's fine.
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