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  • edited 2020-03-10 02:12:58
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human


    how to:
    1. explain etymology
    2. defy twitter's character limit while doing so

    FYI this is an entire thread, with 31 tweets.
  • edited 2020-03-10 03:01:00
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    lrdgck wrote: »
    Edit: Meanwhile in Poland: beaver breaks into home, assaults a woman

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alligator-in-kitchen-11-foot-gator-breaks-into-house-in-clearwater-florida-middle-night-by-crashing-through-window/

    No one was assaulted though, so I guess the beaver wins.
  • I'm convinced the "latinx" thing currently exists as the linguistic equivalent of making an unreasonable proposal so as to make following proposals seem less terrible.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Personally I think the "@" solution is the most clever since it contains both a circle (thus an o) and an a.
  • edited 2020-03-10 04:08:06
    It is clever, but it shares the problem of being unpronounceable in a sensible way. In its favour, unlike the x thing I know of one human being irl who actually uses it (in writing).
    The -e conjugation has the clear advantage of seeming like it could evolve organically from the language, if I had to choose one to become common I'd choose that one. Meanwhile...
  • There is love everywhere, I already know
    Meanwhile in Poland: beaver breaks into home, assaults a woman

    This rampant toxic beaverism has got to stop.
    I'm convinced the "latinx" thing currently exists as the linguistic equivalent of making an unreasonable proposal so as to make following proposals seem less terrible.

    Well, yeah. There's this, but I also wonder if this top-down language modification thing works in modern times outside of whatever Nordic country recently introduced a gender-neutral (one could say unisex, but that sure isn't intersectional enough) pronoun recently. Especially with how it's basically English speakers attempting to impose it on a whole other major language.

    I mean, remember when second wave feminists tried to make "Ms." into a thing regardless of marital status? I'm guessing no.

    Anyways ever since I saw a joke about it I can't stop pronouncing latinx as "La Tinx/La Tinks".
  • "you duck spawn, refined creature, you try to be cynical, yokel, but all that comes out of it is that you're a dunce!!!!! you duck plug!"
    L.A. Twinks.

    Sure sounds like a rap squad. Or a gay-themed football team.
    No one was assaulted though, so I guess the beaver wins.

    Also, I guess that kind of stuff happens like every other day in Florida. Same could be said if this beaver stuff happened in Canada. Here it was just weird. Like that time when a black panther was spotted on Parisian rooftop.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    When it's mating season, alligators do start wandering, but it's rare that they actually break into a house, mostly because they have basically zero reason to do so. Unless someone traps them in a small space with a window as a wall I guess.
    Especially with how it's basically English speakers attempting to impose it on a whole other major language.
    One noteworthy thing that that tweet thread mentioned is that "Latinx" was actually invented by people in the culture in question, not by English-speakers who then imposed it. (I have not yet independently verified this claim.)
    I mean, remember when second wave feminists tried to make "Ms." into a thing regardless of marital status? I'm guessing no.
    ? "Ms." is considered standard when you don't know a woman's marital status, and this has been the case since at least my childhood, if not earlier.
    Anyways ever since I saw a joke about it I can't stop pronouncing latinx as "La Tinx/La Tinks".
    I end up saying that too and it ends up sounding silly too.
  • edited 2020-03-10 14:58:54
    There is love everywhere, I already know
    It'll probably never come up in real life but I have the annoying feeling that I'll try so hard not to say it wrong that I will end up saying "La Twinks".
    Ms." is considered standard when you don't know a woman's marital status
    vs
    regardless of marital status

    Here's some history. It took a while to find an article without an intense amount of virtue signalling.
    that "Latinx" was actually invented by people in the culture in question, not by English-speakers who then imposed it.

    If it was people in academic circles (I mean, the whole modern understanding of gender neutrality as rêve idéal is very much an academic concept) it's basically the same. Either way, you can't deny that the majority of people who attempt to introduce it into the language are English speakers (going by how much nobody wants it).

  • edited 2020-03-10 15:33:58
    One noteworthy thing that that tweet thread mentioned is that "Latinx" was actually invented by people in the culture in question, not by English-speakers who then imposed it. (I have not yet independently verified this claim.)
    The x substitute was (or so I heard) but only in writing and it didn't catch on (what did catch on in formal situations is the use of slashes (e.g. "los/las alumnos/as) and specifying both genders). The specific term "latinx" and the use of the substitute in speech is strictly a foreign thing, you can tell from that same thread with people "proposing" how to use the term. That and the whole thing about adopting the term then use it differently than how it's otherwise used just reeks of going out of your way just to sound inclusive, not as someone who used the language to communicate.
  • edited 2020-03-10 17:06:09
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    So "los/las" is probably the most accepted form at this point I guess.
    It'll probably never come up in real life but I have the annoying feeling that I'll try so hard not to say it wrong that I will end up saying "La Twinks".
    This reminds me of how I still think "del dot ico dot yu es" [sic] for the domain name "del.icio.us" or my odd way of saying "Atelier Escha y Logy".
    Ms." is considered standard when you don't know a woman's marital status
    vs
    regardless of marital status
    Oh, that distinction.

    The Brittanica article unfortunately doesn't go into much detail. I'm guessing the sources that you say contain "an intense amount of virtue signalling" are probably opinion-pieces slathering their aspirational ideals onto the topic, which probably wouldn't be particularly reliable for a historical account anyway...

    FWIW I use Ms./Mrs. interchangeably for married women and Ms./Miss interchangeably for unmarried women, generally whichever the person normally uses to refer to herself or whichever seems to be the socially accepted referent. That said, "Miss" definitely feels less formal, and thus "Ms." gets preferred in formal writing, at least for unmarried women.

    That said, I really don't see why married status ought to be a thing highlighted by an honorific, even though it is. Given that it can occasionally become awkward (such as if you're referring with a woman who's divorced), I can see how it'd make sense to just use "Ms." for any female adult human until one knows how she'd prefer to be honorific'd. (And generally speaking, if she's in the room, one can just ask.)

    Meanwhile I also sometimes use of "Ms." and "Mr." when I want to focus on specific people independent of their background. I've done it sometimes when talking about presidential candidates for example -- "Mr. Biden", "Mr. Buttigieg", "Ms. Clinton", "Mr. Cruz", "Ms. Gabbard", "Ms. Harris", "Ms. Klobuchar", "Mr. O'Rourke", "Mr. Sanders", "Mr. Trump", "Ms. Warren". But this is not so much a standard honorific usage as much as a rhetorical device whose point of doing this is to put them, within the scope of that conversation, on the same level, so that it doesn't look like a Senator is higher than a House member, and also so that I don't have to bother with labels like "former Mayor Buttigieg" vs. "[current?] Mayor de Blasio". Also it sounds a little old-fashioned-ly formal and that's kinda fun to play with.

    (I've considered using "M." as a way to isolate a conversation from the question of the candidate's gender, but I don't know how to pronounce that so I don't bother with it.)

    Anyhow, as for those two use cases, I'm not sure there is much functional difference unless we're talking about instances of people trying to force others to conform to the usage, as opposed to just changing one's own usage. Besides, it can be a little hard to differentiate "Miss", "Miz", and "Misses" in spoken language, particularly when fast.
  • So "los/las" is probably the most accepted form at this point I guess.
    Just to clarify, by "specifying both genders" I meant stating both separately, e.g. "los alumnos y las alumnas", both that and los/las are in use (it also has the advantage of being usable in speech).
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Ah, as opposed to actually writing the slash, which basically doesn't make sense in speech anyway.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Florida Man Tasked With Writing Up Guide To Carnivorous Plants Of Florida
  • It took a while, but it's finally here.
    Our health system is not in a good shape so that's going to suck, OTOH due to lack of travel maybe it won't spread that much. It's not close to Maracaibo yet but maybe I should take precautions anyways to avoid catching it.
    This proves the superiority of the hikikomori lifestyle.
  • "you duck spawn, refined creature, you try to be cynical, yokel, but all that comes out of it is that you're a dunce!!!!! you duck plug!"
    Ah, as opposed to actually writing the slash, which basically doesn't make sense in speech anyway.

    It took me a moment to realize you don't speak about fanfiction.
    It took a while, but it's finally here.

    You guys wished me health, so it's only fair I wish you back.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    [someone online] My family has corona
    [me] the beer or the virus
    [someone online] Yes
    [someone online] [picture of Corona beer in refrigerator]
    [me] i've been on the internet too long; you can tell this by the fact that i ask these questions

    Come to think of it, I'm gradually noticing that, even without participating directly in snarking about stuff, my behavior has changed thanks to my being on the internet. Specifically, in this example, being generally more skeptical of information and asking questions before concluding things.

    If I actually asked "the beer or the virus?" to someone who says they have "corona", and they actually had the virus, and this were offline -- or, particularly, if this were someone who isn't used to online interactions, being online, and thus unable to hear tone or see body language/facial expressions -- this question could come across as very impolite/hurtful based on its flippancy.

    But, on the internet, it's basically expected that a significant portion of such statements involve jokes, so it's far less of an oddity to ask a question indicating cautious skepticism, which serves both as a confirmation question and as an invitation to the other party to go on and elaborate.
  • "you duck spawn, refined creature, you try to be cynical, yokel, but all that comes out of it is that you're a dunce!!!!! you duck plug!"
    I think I've noticed something like that in me too. Recently I was sent a message about the proper mode of behaviour in face of the current epidemic, but I felt something fishy about it. So I replied that it smells fishy, although taken as general advice it would cause no harm. Later I read an article debunking some of the claims in that message.

    'Course, there's the possibility the Illuminati control the media and I bought their manipulations at face value, but for now I consider this hypothesis less probable than the other one.
  • edited 2020-03-14 18:17:15
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
  • Bovarian Mammarian
    hmmmm....faster than she looks, talented fence jumper, enjoys pools...

    wait, this is in Florida, right? I ain't no Florida Cow
  • Bovarian Mammarian
    QjbvZGN.png

    damn straight Sheila Boobson
  • edited 2020-03-14 23:10:08
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    from the Department of Extremely Creepy Things

    Warning: spiders. Many spiders. Many, many spiders.



    Technically SFW since the spiders involved are harmless to humans and they are also helping to eat the shitton of bugs coming off the plant. But still creepy.

    Anyhow this was back in 2009; they cleaned it up after that.
  • "you duck spawn, refined creature, you try to be cynical, yokel, but all that comes out of it is that you're a dunce!!!!! you duck plug!"
    Now that's a place to work in. Below, shit. Above, spiders.

    Which reminds me how, in spite of my best efforts, I never managed to find that "Dark Forest of the SS Spiders" fake black metal album by fake black metal band Spidermord. You know, after my hard drive with a copy of the picture died, and the website it was posted on went down, the picture was lost along with a few other fake band samples. WebArchive can't help here; the site only showed a link to some hosting service, which probably cleared its servers of that picture long before the site was archived. I think I still have that drive, just in case, but I'm resigned to the fact that I will never see it again. You know, if memes die when they're forgotten for good, then perhaps I'm the last who still remembers this one, like some refugee from a lost civilization. It's quite a curious feeling. But on a more upbeat note, it's also pretty funny when you think how so inane things may get stuck in your mind for like forever when you barely recall supposedly important stuff from like a while ago.
  • edited 2020-03-15 02:07:06
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    I remember a joke from an old issue of Reader's Digest, which involved a person responding to a real estate offer by saying "We just came from Walla Walla; we're not going to any Ho-Ho-Kus."

    I can't find this joke, nor do I know what issue of RD it was in. It was one of those jokes that fill up the page at the ends of articles.

    And that's all I remember of it.

    That said, the fact that I remember it means I can write it down and share it for others. And the fact that you remember that album and that band means and you've posted about it means that there is now a record of it here on the internet.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    This happy fellow is a judge in the Decemberween Teen Girl Squad. He and the other two judges (who are both Arrow'd Guy) TWO'D The Ugly One for her cannonball into the Gift Exchange Lion's mouth. He rates Cheerleader's dive into the lion's mouth a "nose" along with the other judges. Noticeable is the fact that he can move his arms along his skinny body. His "shoulder" is not visible until he lifts up the sign. Little else is known about this person, or what the value of a "nose" is in competitive Lion's mouth jumping.
    I love how matter-of-fact this description is.
  • There is love everywhere, I already know
    I finally got my first ever Mega Construx American Girl set in, and I'm excited to see how it'll build. Thankfully, since this line ended in 2017 (well, I think) there's a set limit to how much I can ever sink into it... unless I start buying duplicates.

    Since I've been looking these up so much online, they now seem to stalk me on every online retailer I use. Mainly though I see Saige's Balloon Festival over and over everywhere. I'm not sure I'm a fan of the set as a whole, but I might get it someday.

    The more I look into MCAG, the more I notice how clearly LEGO Friends has been "inspired" by it lately. From things that are as basic as just like... literally ripping off the whole set, to the more subtle things like including more and more fabric pieces.

    Another thing about MCAG is the American Girls themselves. They are... very different from what I remember American Girl books being when I was a kid but boy do they all have a lot of intense backstory. For example, Kanani only got a small set but she was a Girl of the Year once so we get to find out her entire genealogy.

    Since I'm already doing this allow me to complain about how Luciana's profile art is part of the newer uh... BeForever? AmeriForever? Just Unique? GOTY? whatever it is line in the main dolls and so it's basically terrible compared to everybody else's photorealistic art.
  • edited 2020-03-19 03:42:34
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    1. Florida Man crashes car into car with two women, then exits his car and takes off clothes
    2. Florida Man writes report describing the above incident, and referring to taking off clothes as "stripping naked from the waste down" [sic]
    3. someone posts this to the Florida Man subreddit
    4. Florida Man comments with claim that he browses this subreddit "for ideas"
    5. Florida Man replies to above comment with following comment:
    Don't forget to hunt down a Burmese python first, so you can then add a python to all of your ideas.

    I mean, you could crash a car into two women and then strip naked from the waste down...or you could crash a car into two women then strip naked from the waste down, while showing off your python.
  • edited 2020-03-19 04:19:15
    There is love everywhere, I already know
    so you can then add a python to all of your ideas.

    Well, you'd need a steady supplier of snakes considering how often animal services would take it away.

    I read a surprisingly good argument for the libertarian treatment of prices from a retailer's perspective.

    I've always taken for granted that the libertarian treatment for prices should only apply to the secondary market, because it can't be helped. However, this piece makes some good arguments for allowing market signals to set prices for items as a social good! Very novel. I'm not sure how well it would work in real life.

    I know some retailer systems are automated in terms of surge pricing and that leads to lots of errors so at the very least that'd need to be fixed.
  • This pretty much entirely relies on price increase being a strong enough deterrent, and that there aren't hoarders who can afford to be ridiculously wasteful.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    so you can then add a python to all of your ideas.

    Well, you'd need a steady supplier of snakes considering how often animal services would take it away.
    The Burmese python is an invasive species in the Florida Everglades. We want people to get these snakes out of here.
    I'm not sure how well it would work in real life.
    In this arrangement, you're basically allowing price to correlate to how badly someone wants a thing. It's not exactly like this -- because price points and expectations are still a thing -- but this is close enough.

    It works well for nonessential goods/services, which people can voluntarily save up then blow their leisure and recreational funds on.

    But if applied to essentials, this becomes a lot more ethically questionable. Because the demand itself is not voluntary.
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