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glennmagusharvey · 2015-09-07 21:20:02

I suddenly want to play Splatoon.

Okay, well, I again suddenly want to play Splatoon. This isn't the first time I've felt this way.

Nyktos · 2015-09-07 22:11:43

Yeah I've had that feeling a few times too. Not enough to seriously consider getting a Wii U though.

glennmagusharvey · 2015-09-13 04:13:01

I went and asked at the local GameStop, just to get a ballpark figure.

For a used WiiU, from $230 for 8 GB to $300 for a WiiU + Super Mario 3D (World?) bundle.

For Splatoon, $60 new and $55 used.

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So for Super Mario Kart (for SNES), there's actually a specific music track played if you make it through all the races but fail to get a podium spot. That got me thinking again about the score system...

As single-player, you have to place 4th or higher to pass each track, but podium spots are for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, so the lowest possible score is basically to get 4th place for each track.

However, in 2-player mode, it's possible for both players to advance as long as either player gets at least 4th place. What's the lowest possible score that one can have but still pass the race, in 2-player?

Since there are five tracks, we presume that one player passes 3 tracks and the other player passes 2 tracks. By pass I mean get 4th or better. Since 4th place gives 1 point, this means that the player who passes only 2 tracks gets only 2 points.

This is trivial. However, it might be a little more complicated to figure out what's the lowest possible score needed to get 1st place, or 3rd place. Or maybe it's actually simple but I'm just too lazy to think about it right now.

glennmagusharvey · 2015-09-13 17:28:06

glennmagusharvey wrote: »

> Get 5 Sexy 18+ Adult Anime Games including in The Sexy Girls Bundle!

no

go away

you're as much of a scourge on gaming as are violent gorefests like Hatred

Funny thing is that the "as much a scourge on gaming" thing is accurate to my real opinion.
Specifically the "as much" part.

I don't like the Sakura games, and I don't like Hatred, but past that I'm like, whatever.
Would the gaming world be better served had they not existed?
Yeah. Do I care to do much about them now that they do? No, not
really. They're merely expressions of ideas. If I've got beef with
those ideas, this stamping them out would be the most idiotic way of
dealing with them — it'd be addressing the symptoms and ignoring the
cause.

Hatred as a game is really not that offensive. If anything,
what's actually more offensive is how it was basically hailed as some
great testament to political incorrectness (a phenomenon the developer
took full advantage of for marketing purposes).

And again, the problem with the Sakura games is not the fact they
exist. It's the social implications that they have, perpetuating the
ugly stereotype of visual novels and dating sims being smut, and also
damaging the reputation of games with anime art in places such as Steam
where many people who don't like such games are basically just waiting
for an opportunity to dislike and be dismissive of them as a whole.

glennmagusharvey · 2015-09-13 21:28:26

So do Wii U games that come packaged with the Wii U get downloaded and linked to one's Nintendo account or just linked to one's Nintendo system? Like, how does this whole game downloading thing work? What happens if someone wants to sell their Wii U?

InsanityAddict · 2015-09-13 21:54:07

glennmagusharvey wrote: »

glennmagusharvey wrote: »

> Get 5 Sexy 18+ Adult Anime Games including in The Sexy Girls Bundle!

no

go away

you're as much of a scourge on gaming as are violent gorefests like Hatred

Funny thing is that the "as much a scourge on gaming" thing is accurate to my real opinion.
Specifically the "as much" part.

I don't like the Sakura games, and I don't like Hatred, but past that I'm like, whatever.
Would the gaming world be better served had they not existed?
Yeah. Do I care to do much about them now that they do? No, not
really. They're merely expressions of ideas. If I've got beef with
those ideas, this stamping them out would be the most idiotic way of
dealing with them — it'd be addressing the symptoms and ignoring the
cause.

Hatred as a game is really not that offensive. If anything,
what's actually more offensive is how it was basically hailed as some
great testament to political incorrectness (a phenomenon the developer
took full advantage of for marketing purposes).

And again, the problem with the Sakura games is not the fact they
exist. It's the social implications that they have, perpetuating the
ugly stereotype of visual novels and dating sims being smut, and also
damaging the reputation of games with anime art in places such as Steam
where many people who don't like such games are basically just waiting
for an opportunity to dislike and be dismissive of them as a whole.

Hatred couldn't have been marketed without all the handwringing, it's the Trump of videogames.

Likewise harem weeb crap should just be left to the niche specialist sites if a mainstream site will just copypaste the same jeremiad on how it made the reviewer uncomfortable and degrades gaming as an art form. The harshest shit talk will still come from people who actually spend money on figurines of the fap material themselves, as waifu wars never cease. VNs are gaining more prestige than ever if you're not too stringent in what counts, ranging from Telltale games to Twine work.

glennmagusharvey · 2015-09-13 22:03:37

Yeah I actually tend to group point-and-click adventures with visual novels since they're more similar than other types of games.

Bee · 2015-09-14 04:21:10

Wii U downloads, like Wii, are tied to the console and not the account. As in, if you clear the console to factory defaults, the downloads will still be listed as purchased, and people who have bought used, wiped machines can see previous downloads still available.

That said, there's some fuzzy linkage to the account, because they want it to be forward-portable to subsequent platforms. Also IIRC if your console gets bricked, and they can't help you fix it and have to send you a replacement, they do transfer your purchases to a replacement via account connection. But that's more a courtesy admin thing rather than basic transfer the user can perform.

glennmagusharvey · 2015-09-14 15:03:49

Bee wrote: »

Wii U downloads, like Wii, are tied to the console and not the account. As in, if you clear the console to factory defaults, the downloads will still be listed as purchased, and people who have bought used, wiped machines can see previous downloads still available.

That said, there's some fuzzy linkage to the account, because they want it to be forward-portable to subsequent platforms. Also IIRC if your console gets bricked, and they can't help you fix it and have to send you a replacement, they do transfer your purchases to a replacement via account connection. But that's more a courtesy admin thing rather than basic transfer the user can perform.

It seems that it might be linked to NNID rather than the system: http://techforums.nintendo.com/thread/30018

h/t to Rangers51 for the link

Well, if so, that sucks.

glennmagusharvey · 2015-09-18 08:50:27

What is it with Compile Heart and making very, very weeb games? Like, very precisely stereotypically weeb.

http://www.siliconera.com/2015/09/17/chou-chou-conquering-steam-with-mugen-souls-on-pc/

Cute girls with superdeformed art? Check. Fanservice? Check. Huge boobs? Check. Weird weapons? Check. Flashy JRPG attacks? Check. Random Japanese cultural artifacts in a European-fantasy setting? Check. Even, combo meter? Check.

DYRE · 2015-09-18 15:16:14

They aren't making games for weeaboos, they're making games specifically for Japanese otaku in Japan. Like I know this is an inane distinction but they literally said as much themselves with their "Galapagos RPG" project (though Mugen Souls isn't part of that, but that might just be because it was made before they started their Galapagos RPG thing. Currently I think it's just the Fairy Fencer games and *ω* Quintet), which has the explicit goal of making super Japanesey JRPGs that don't cater to international audiences.

glennmagusharvey · 2015-09-21 07:27:23

For some reason I don't get that vibe from Fairy Fencer F.

Well, at least, I didn't get any of that vibe from FFF until I saw breast physics, then I was like, nah, it's still there.

glennmagusharvey · 2015-09-28 21:38:01

http://store.steampowered.com/app/378750

lrdgck · 2015-10-08 18:07:57

So, Glenn, wasn't it you who told me once he'd welcome more Slavic mythology in Anglophonic fiction? I've just read of a game, Thea: the Awakening. Apparently it's a sort of a mix between a 4X game and survival sandbox. You watch over a small village located in some unexplored fantasyland, oversee the construction of village facilities, maintain its defenses, and send out exploration parties. The village is populated by unique characters, so there's also an RPG aspect in keeping with their strengths and weaknesses, leveling them up, and helping them stay alive. So, instead of sending a Swordsman #121 to deal with a Goblin, you send Natashas and Ludmilas against leshys and drowners.

(some pictures)

MadassAlex · 2015-10-13 12:41:22

The Witcher 3 turns out to have this neat little nod towards real swordplay that I haven't seen anyone else notice, so here goes:

When you strike a parrying opponent, their stamina will go down and they will suffer blockstun depending on the strength of your attack. Usually, your options are light or heavy (excluding the special sword attacks). Whether you make them parry a light or heavy attack, however, influences what is likely to be your next optimal option. See, the blockstun from a heavy attack pretty much always means that you can get another heavy attack without risking a return attack; connecting with a light attack means that it's best to move around your opponent and pressure their flanks.

In real swordplay, one doesn't really make "heavy" or "light" attacks as such, but the pressure one feels in the crossing of the swords determines the best set of responses. So if your attack is "light" against their "heavy" resistance, you want to flee their strength and seek a weaker target. If your attack turns out to be "heavy" against a "light" resistance, you want to exploit that strength and push that direct advantage.

While The Witcher 3 doesn't represent the literal process, it does successfully tap into the kind of thinking required to take advantage of the crossing of the blades. If you bind weak against their attack, you search for some other place to apply strength; if you bind strongly, you push your advantage until you win. A pretty clever compromise between the real thing and what most gamers find intuitive.

Zennistrad · 2015-10-13 16:24:17

Off topic, but I certainly wasn't expecting you to return, Alex. Glad to see you're still as enthusiastic about swords as ever.

MadassAlex · 2015-10-13 23:37:40

Still a big deal. My reasoning these days is a little more sophisticated though, if I do say so myself. Combat systems tend to work better when participants are actively contesting their strategies (see: MtG), so having an attack/block/attack paradigm just hurts things in my opinion. Having some kind of defensive traits attached to attacks (as they are in true swordplay) goes a long way towards ensuring that all participants in combat are throwing down a deliberate strategy.

lrdgck · 2015-10-14 13:17:43

The cat lord just did my best character in ADOM ever. Should've drank that another extra healing potion instead of trying a standard healing. I should be throwing a fit right now, but for some reason I'm more like, damn.

glennmagusharvey · 2015-10-19 04:29:25

I wrote up my backlog.

Need to finish: 18 games

Barely started: 23 games

Alternate modes yet to try: 8 games

Haven't even touched but mean to play: 51 games

Yet to come (don't yet exist or not yet purchased): 11 games

Nevertheless still playing these for some reason: 2 games

The fact that it's long enough that I need to use toggleboxes is a problem in itself.

lrdgck · 2015-10-19 14:29:16

You know, the last time I could accept you play them casually in spare time.

Stormtroper · 2015-10-19 17:16:48

You know, the last time I could accept you play them casually in spare time.

glennmagusharvey · 2015-10-19 20:47:21

lrdgck wrote: »

You know, the last time I could accept you play them casually in spare time.

Why do you think so much got backlogged in the first place?

Blueeyedrat · 2015-10-19 23:52:44

Hmm...

Started, but never finished:

Own, but never started:

Don't own yet:

Stormtroper · 2015-10-20 00:15:56

My backlog hasn't moved one bit since I posted it.

Glenn's longass list inspired me to list every game I've ever played (that I can remember) (* means not finished. In case the game can't be finished, it means I didn't get all that deep into it):

Super Mario Bros.

Super Mario Bros. 2

Super Mario Bros. 3

Super Mario Bros. The Lost Levels*

Super Mario World

Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island

Mario 64

Super Mario RPG

Paper Mario*

Dr. Mario

Super Mario Kart*

Mario Kart 64

Mario Tennis

Mario Party

Super Demo World II: The Legend Continues

Star Fox 64

Star Fox: Dinosaur Planet*

Star Fox Assault

Super Metroid*

The Legend of Zelda*

The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past

The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask

The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons*

The Legend of Zelda: Parallel Worlds

Ode to Zelda

Donkey Kong (Did I? I was too young to remember)

Donkey Kong Country

Donkey Kong Country II: Diddy Kong's Quest

Donkey Kong Country III: Dixie's Double Trouble

Diddy Kong Racing

Kirby's Dreamland*

Kirby's Adventure

Kirby's Dreamland 2

Kirby's Dreamland 3*

Kirby's Block Ball

Kirby Super Star

Pokemon Red

Pokemon Gold (Gen II master race)

Pokemon Ruby

Pokemon Stadium

Pokemon Stadium II

Touhou Puppet Play

F-Zero X

Kid Icarus

Super Smash Brothers

Super Smash Brothers Melee

Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Super Smash Brothers for the Wii U

Megaman X3

Sonic the Hedgehog

Sonic the Hedgehog 2*

Street Fighter II*

Mortal Kombat*

Mortal Kombat II

Mortal Kombat III*

Ultimate Mortal Kombat

Killer Instinct

Killer Instinct Gold

War Gods

Clay Fighters*

WWF Super WrestleMania

Final Fight

Castle Crashers

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Turtles in Time*

Destrega*

Tiny Toons (SNES)

Inspector Gadget*

Jurassic Park (SEGA GENESIS)

Toy Story*

Final Fantasy

Final Fantasy II

Final Fantasy III

Final Fantasy IV

Final Fantasy V

Final Fantasy VI

Final Fantasy VII

Final Fantasy VIII

Final Fantasy IX

Final Fantasy X

Final Fantasy XIV

Final Fantasy Mystic Quest*

Final Fantasy Tactics

Final Fantasy Tactics Advance* (Fuck you, final boss)

Final Fantasy: Crisis Core*

Chrono Trigger

Chrono Cross*

Dragon Quest VI

Breath of FIre (II?)*

Valkyrie Profile

Tales of Phantasia*

Threads of Fate

Final Fantasy Adventure

Secret of Mana

Seiken Densetsu III

Legend of Mana

EVO: Search for Eden

Cave Story

Portal

Portal II

2D Portal

Tag: The Power of Paint

Touhou ~ Highly Responsive to Prayers

Touhou 2 ~ Story of Eastern Wonderland

Touhou 3 ~ Phantasmagoria of Dim. Dream

Touhou 4 ~ Lotus Land Story

Touhou 5 ~ Mystic Square

Touhou 6 ~ Embodiment of Scarlet Devil

Touhou 7 ~ Perfect Cherry Blossom

Touhou 7.5 ~ Immaterial and Missing Power

Touhou 8 ~ Imperishable Night

Touhou 9 ~ Phantasmagoria of Flower View

Touhou 9.5 ~ Shoot the Bullet*

Touhou 10 ~ Mountain of Faith

Touhou 10.5 ~ Scarlet Weather Rhapsody

Touhou 11 ~ Subterranean Animism

Touhou 12 ~ Undefined Fantastic Object

Touhou 12.3 ~ Hisoutensoku

Touhou 12.5 ~ Double Spoiler*

Touhou 12.8 ~ Fairy Wars

Touhou 13 ~ Ten Desires

Touhou 13.5 ~ Hopeless Masquerade

Touhou 14 ~ Double Dealing Character

Danmaku Amanojaku (14.3) ~ Impossible Spellcard*

Touhou 14.5 ~ Urban Legend in Limbo

Touhou 15 ~ Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom

Youyou Kengeki Musou

Fantasy Puppet Dance Performance*

Fantasy Maiden Wars*

Touhou ~ The Genius of Sapheiros*

Tendou Blade*

Touhou ~ Age of Ethanols

Ultimate Sunflower Creation

Danmaku Shimai ~ La Soeur de Barrage

Ikaruga*

rRootage*

Tyrian

Boss Battle

Bats (or some shooter involving bats anyways)

Gundemonium*

Age of Empires 2

Dark Reign

Command and Conquer: Red Alert

Command and Conquer: Red Alert: Aftermath

Command and Conquer: Red Alert II*

Command and Conquer: Red Alert III

Warcraft: Orcs and Humans

Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness

Warcraft II: Beyond the Dark Portal

Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos

Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne

World of Warcraft

World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade

World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King*

World of Warcraft: Cataclysm*

Starcraft

Starcraft: Broodwar

Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty

Starcraft II: Heart of the Swarm

Diablo

Diablo III

Hearthstone

Heroes of the Storm*

League of Legends

Bloodline Champions*

Lineage II

Forsaken World

Path of Exile*

Guild Wars 2*

Doom*

Doom II*

Duke Nukem 3D

Goldeneye

Perfect Dark

Quake

Quake II

Bioshock

Bioshock II

Team Fortress II

Forge

(Online MtG)

(Online Settlers of Catan)

(Online Wolfgame)

Chessmaster

Some really old chess game

Sim City (SNES version)

Sim City 2000

Sim Tower*

Dinopark Tycoon

Tropico 5

Civilization IV

Civilization V

X-COM: UFO Defense

X-COM: Terror From The Deep

XCOM: Enemy Unknown

UFO: Extraterrestrials*

UFO: Alien Invasion*

Abomination*

Cruisin' USA

Gran Turismo II

Gran Turismo III

F-1 World Grand Prix

World Cup USA 94

International Superstar Soccer

Fifa 200something

2020 Super Baseball

Ken Griffith Jr.'s Slugfest

Super Baseball Simulator 1.000

Tony Hawk Pro-Skater 2

NBA Jam

I Wanna Be The Guy

I Wanna Be The Guy II*

Indiana Jones: Quest for Atlantis

Monkey Island

Monkey Island II

Monkey Island III*

The Dig*

Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire

Star Wars Episode I: Racers

Star Wars: Jedi Power Battles

Zombies Ate My Neighbors

Devil May Cry

Tomb Raider*

Lord of the Rings (PS2)

Blast Corps

Ecco the Dolphin*

Joe & Mac

Joe & Mac 2: Lost in the Tropics*

Rampage World Tour*

Grief Syndrome

Recettear*

Little Nemo: Dream Master

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde*

Tetris

Arcanoid

Space Invaders

Pac-Man

Bomberman

Jetpack

Asteroids

The snake game

Into the Eagle's Nest

Those old Kimera edumacational games

Pharaoh's Revenge

Yume Nikki

Laser Light (Or some clone)

Dig It

QWOP

Material Sniper

You Gotta Burn The Rope

Robot Unicorn Attack

The World's Hardest Game

Winterbells

Doodle God

3rd World Farmer

Line Rider

(Sorry about the lack of toggleboxes. They didn't want to work right, so...)

Tatterhood · 2015-10-20 00:41:27

Games I am currently playing: Undertale

Games I never finished: too many to count lol

Games I plan to play: all the crap in my steam library I guess

glennmagusharvey · 2015-10-22 21:16:10

(quote source: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13779981090A33480400&page=92#2281 )

I do not agree that the game deserves to bomb. Will it actually do so,
though? Well, I think it's very likely to underperform. Threads like
this(and the response to them) show us that a vocal segment the folks
who are typically the positive ambassadors for the game(in this case,
the backers) are so fundamentally upset that they're convincing those
less invested but still potentially interested(I am of the latter
category) that the whole thing is @$$ and doomed. Whether or not the
game plays well, it has an enormous albatross around its neck(the
graphics and general dissatisfaction) that'll require majorly good
scores from reviewers to counter(and the demo and gameplay thus far show
a decent game to many, me included, but nothing amazing).

Simply put: I believe the negative buzz around this game is
strong enough to make it DOA unless there's something really special in
there that nobody has witnessed yet, and that is extremely unlikely at
this point.

This is why I hate the hype and fandoms, and frequently prefer to
discover and play games without people chattering all about them around
me.

Focus on the game. Stop having expectations about what it should
or shouldn't be. Be open-minded. Don't think in tropes. Don't come
in with expectations. In fact, what you should do to truly enjoy
something is to try your best to hold off any expectations you might be forming, in order to keep an open mind about anything that might happen in them.

DYRE · 2015-10-22 23:38:26

Unless you literally just choose every game you buy/play completely at random, you have to have some expectations of what the games you play will be like before you play them, otherwise why did you pick this particular game to play instead of any other one?

Also the goal really shouldn't be (or at least doesn't have to be) to "truly enjoy" whatever you're playing. No need to force yourself to like things if they're bad.

fourteenwings · 2015-10-24 12:54:51

I don't think I've gone into a form of media without expectations in years, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy stuff.

If that makes me inorganic or whatever, I am great with that.

Also
I think the only way anybody can enjoy JRPGs is if they go into them
thinking you'll like them and then as you play continue to think so, even as you
spend nine hours grinding characters who have to sit out three person battles who honestly should just get as
much EXP as the ones in your party.

what you should do to truly enjoy
something is to try your best to hold off any expectations you might be forming

This sounds like a weird amount of work for a thing you're presumably planning to do to have fun.

glennmagusharvey · 2015-10-24 15:18:32

Trails in the Sky SC will be released on PC (GOG and Steam) and PSP on 29 October 2015.

The price will be US$30.

Tatterhood · 2015-10-25 19:21:07

I'm never any good at saying interesting things about fiction, but I just finished* Undertale and it was very good and you should play it, especially if you're me and spent your childhood obsessed with mediocre JRPGs.

* There are other endings, but I don't think I can bring myself to do what's needed to get them...

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