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I hope so, but that sounds perilously close to the kind of stuff addicts say about their addictions.
I'm not even around children. I've been sick for most of 2011 out of school, so not counting trips to the hospital a state over, I haven't seen anyone a year younger then me, much less any lolis.
Hm, note to self: Stop applying "lolis" to real children.
I really didn't mean to derail the thread like I did. Like I said, I don't see the big deal. Can we go back to talking about getting the cut stuff to a new wiki or something?
The last few replies kinda shows part of the problem. A person can like lolicon works without wanting to hurt real kids. We need to stop considering Pedophilia as some form of disgusting and illegal social faux pas and realize that it's actually a mental disorder that we could be treating with therapy -- if real pedophiles (not lolicon fans) weren't terrified of being arrested and basically becoming pariahs if they are found out.
And TheDarkEricDraven, that explains a LOT about the bannings. I was banned for posting that we don't have to block all discussion of porn tropes, cause we can be neutral in their discussion, as well as defending Lotte No Omocha. In both cases I was mocked by random Goons in the SA thread right before being banned. I was making fun of the idea that SomethingAwful was going to become the new unofficial mod team of TVTropes -- "Can't have that trope, SA will mock us" -- but... that's all kinda scary.
But Paedophilia is a disgusting and illegal social faux pas.
KiTA - That's a bit inconsistent, because if you admit paedophilia is a mental disorder (and I agree) then you can't really try to argue that it's in any way a good or even a neutral thing. It's like saying depression or schizophrenia is somehow neutral.
I wouldn't say people who are attracted to underage kids should be pariahs in the same way that actual molesters are and the attraction isn't illegal. But it is a problem and they should get help, because at some point the molesters were that way too.
As for it being a social faux pas, I think too much information about the most vanilla sex in a social setting is probably a social faux pas, let alone extreme stuff like this.
Well, I like real children too, remember, but I would never act on it. Unless I was warped to some anime world where lolis totally had sex all the time or something. That would be awesome, but I doubt it would happen. Dating? Great. Sex, however, will never be anything but harmful for a child.
And yeah, SA is pretty much the mod team. I think Feo was banned after they brought him up too. Something about underage knife porn. I don't dislike SA-I was even planning getting an account there, but then they quoted me arguing against pedophilia being a mental disorder and fuck, there went that. I was so interested in posting there. I'm an Otherkin too, so I would have liked to post my thoughts on the married to anime guys thread, and I've been lurking on the King of the Hill thread for most of the last half of last year.
Then I was banned on TV Tropes too, and it's like, "shit, now I've lost both of them". That's why I was so mad at Eddie at first. Alas. I'm mostly over it now.
There is an admitted pedophile who has explicitly said no to seeking therapy/help/anything and we have accepted him. We are worse than TVTropes.
No, no, no, don't say that! Damn it...Can we please talk about something else now? Please?
In many ways, Pedophilia really is a mental disorder. It's not healthy at all to be attracted to children, and talking about it in private with a psychiatrist is probably the most healthy way to deal with it. Just sitting on the issue and pretending that it's not a big deal, regardless of whether you're acting on it or not, just worries the fuck out of people who urge you to seek help.
Well, don't. I've got everything under control.
You brought this upon yourself.
You can't expect to admit to being a pedophile, without any repentance whatsoever, and that people will just ignore it and pretend that nothing happened.
I don't see it as a reason to fuss about, so no, I didn't expect this.
Lets drop this, please. This whole thread has gotten completely derailed.
That is the problem.
I was totally willing to just stay out of the thread and just watch the ensuing flame war, but-
Fucking hell. Why would you not only say this, but actually admit it? Ever?
No, scratch that. Fucking awesome? Really?
bangs head against wall
I agree with KiTA.
You can bang your head against a wall all you like, we aren't going to pretend that you didn't say what you did.
You admitted you wanted to kiddy fiddle, how can you think this was an okay thing to do?
I don't want to kiddy fiddle! I mean, I do, kind of-it's difficult to explain. I am attracted to little girls, but know that sex can only hurt them. So won't. Ever.
My view: Paedophilia is a mental disorder and if people who have it can come to terms with it and confess to a doctor (without acting on their urges) then they should be isolated and given treatment to help them get over their issues.
Acting on those urges in any form, however, is disgusting, wrong and that you are so casual about it sickens me to my very core. It actually makes me physically sick to think so many people can look at shit like lolicon and think that on any level that it is okay.
And there is a world of difference between The Adventures of the Paedomagnet Succubus (or whatever it's called) and Lolita. Given that AoftPS is supposed to turn you on while Lolita is supposed to make you angry.
^^ But you still want to date them.
Fuck it, then, dating is bad too.
Unless you were warped to some anime world where lolis had sex all the time. By your own admission.
I mean, come on, dude. You admitted to wanting to screw kids, which is kinda icky enough but okay people can deal with that even if I personally would have just stuck you on an ignore list. But then you went and talked about how you don't want to go see a therapist or a doctor or anyone about it because you totally have it under control and you wouldn't bang a kid ever. Unless you were warped to some anime world where lolis had sex all the time.
I mean, really? What the hell did you expect people to do, just shrug their shoulders and say "Okay, he likes the thought of banging kids, whatever?"
Yes.
That is an amazing lack of awareness.
Hey, CountryPumpkin, do you happen to have the :psyduck: emoticon on hand? It'd be really useful right about now.
Then I get the feeling this forum is not right for you.
Nevermind, just forget it!
Yes.
That may be the most damning indictment of this forum I've yet seen.
I wouldn't say it's inherently a bad thing if he is.
Being a paedophile? I'm kiiinda struggling to see the positives here.