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It shouldn't matter. SA is basically a massive club for bedwetting bullies who like spying on/jerking off over what other people are doing on the internet. Unfortunately they thrive on controversy and drama and general mean-spiritedness. The targets of their mockery should do anything but appease them and their aggressive forum culture. That doesn't null certain criticism, though. IJBM... isn't supposed to be a porn forum.
Setting community standards that deem certain things inappropriate is fine, but basing it all on whether other websites might make fun of a particular thing is a needlessly paranoid way of going about it, in my opinion.
Aye, I think that sounds like a pretty mature and rational take on this issue. I guess my problem with such things is when people go from critiquing a site for legitimate problems it has to insulting individual members or even worse, insinuating that all the users of a site are idiots and such. Besides the obvious problems with such generalizations, the elitism inherent in such statements bugs me.
In any event,
Glad I missed out on this. What possible purpose would a wang comparison thread serve? And even if it somehow should happen, wouldn't it be more advisable to create a PM convo instead of having it out in the open?
I see. That makes it even more baffling.
They have a rule for ganging up on the racist, but not for being the racist.
You can also replace the word "racist" with:
"person who has mentioned he has urges to rape eight-year-olds",
or "person who makes a lot of completely unfunny and tasteless jokes about women and people who are not white",
or "person who vehemently opposes anything to do with creativity and mentions this at every turn",
or "person who has no sympathy for a woman who was brutally raped because she happened to be from the mafia",
or "person who thinks there is nothing wrong with brutally whipping and treatening a teenager for pirating software",
or "person who thinks that a woman is responsible if she wears revealing clothing and is then raped",
or "person who honestly believes that immigrants should stay out of America before their foreign influence ruins the country",
or "person who thinks identifying as a hikikomori is cute and makes them special and has done nothing to understand what a hikikomori really is".
The TV Tropes thread on SA was originally created to entertain goons with the sheer stupidity of some people say because that's the sort of thing that SA likes to do, but it has gone beyond that. The people in that thread have been saddened and enraged by some of the things that people on TV Tropes say, and it's not because they are bedwetting bullies who like spying on/jerking off over what other people are doing on the internet. They are shocked that for the most part people on TV Tropes are allowed to say those things, but oft-times no one is allowed to call them out on it.
EDIT: I hope I haven't imported drama or anything like that. If I have, point it out and I'll tweak it so it's less drama-y.
Everybody LOVES roosters!
I agree, however, that true criticism comes from within the self, and
that TV Tropes shouldn't improve just because SA "doesn't approve".
However, if a number of people are following a forum they don't even go
on, and they see and point out the same problems over and over, they may be on to something. What they have to say about the forum could be valuable for a forumite to listen to.
Quite
frankly, I don't care if it's Something Awful criticizing TV Tropes, or
Neopets (pfah!), or the most respectable forum on the internet, or the
president of the US, or my grandma, or TV Tropes itself. It doesn't make
a difference to me. If multiple people have a criticism of a forum, and
they bring up observations of the same sort of thing over and over,
that may be sign that that forum needs improvement.
Quoting myself from earlier in the thread.
Also, when you agree with someone about a criticism, you are also passively criticizing, so when somebody from TV Tropes agrees with the SA criticisms, there is criticism coming from within, even if the criticism is passive.
Fuckin' kangaroos.
(NSFW. Maybe.)
And? People make threads about other sites on all sorts of forums from time to time. It's to be expected that random forums other than SA would have a thread about something as reasonably well-known/influential as TV tropes. Most of them will get closed down for importing drama. Guess which has by far the most posts regarding tv tropes and its periphery...
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Alex:
He was the central figure in a study that proved that birds (or at least African Grey parrots) are capable of connecting a meaning to morphemes.
about people who're enraged by how things go in TvT and follow on a
righteous cause rather than simply seeing TvT for the comedy goldmine
that it is?
I never said anything about a righteous cause. I was merely stating my observations about things they have said. I don't remember the details, but one person comes to mind who was so upset by something somebody said on TVT that he was prepared to go on a personal rant, since it hit close to home on a personal subject for him. He was advised to take a walk and cool his thoughts, which he did.
And I'm not saying they don't see it as a comedy goldmine, because they do, it's just that it has gone from merely laughing at the site to being personally upset for some of the people in the thread.
glenn: Uktabi Kangaroos?
From my experience, "importing drama", and in particular being sensitive enough about it to label something as innocuous as that as "drama", is something that's fairly idiosyncratic to TVTropes (and its relatives, I suppose).
It probably has something to do with the fact that people usually post at the end of a busy day, and sometimes a bad one. The internet becomes their punching bag, and that leads to drama.