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Crimson

You didn't answer my question. I wasn't asking why you think posting dicks was okay, I was asking why it was worth this much drama.

Vivi

It was about a penis Anne, but the penis is not the problem.

All Nines

"Everest, there has been disgusting and distasteful things in here already that did not get threads locked."

"Disgusting" and "distasteful" are measured in degrees; there's a difference between whatever went on before and posting images of genitalia to the board.

"And I told you Anne, it isn't about the penis."

So what is it about? The posting of disgusting images? Just to be clear.

Never mind this part of the post.

"I just think I deserve a good reason to respect it."

How has that not already been provided?

Saigyouji

Also, if the dick thread does exist, which I doubt

Nice to see I'm being called a liar. The thread exists, currently on the second page of the Post Your Favorite (or Request) forum.

Vivi

It's about being "reprimanded" for something that is not only not against the rules, but is not worse than things that have happened before and not been locked. It isn't about the penis at all. It could have been anything. I could have posted a thread saying ITT: Panda Killing Video NSFW. If that got locked, if would have made me just as mad.

Nyarly

They were added last night because as it turned out the rules were not
clear enough, and rules need to be specific.

That this was even necessary doesn'T say good things about the userbase here.

Partial thump.

Icalasari

^ Wait hold it, there were BANS as a result of last night!?

AnneBeeche

You're right, the penis itself isn't the problem. It's only your unreasonable stubbornness and apparently obliviousness to what is and isn't socially acceptable, or at least acceptable on this forum, that is the problem.

Meanwhile, I'm going to post a picture of some chickens:

Vivi

>hosting service

>hosting service

>hosting service

Thank you, GMH! Finally, a satisfying argument. Okay, I'm done.

Icalasari

^^ Those are some nice cocks

All Nines

"but is not worse than things that have happened before and not been locked"

How is it not worse?

"Wait hold it, there were BANS as a result of last night!?"

No userbans; just a restructuring of the rules.

"Thank you, GMH! Finally, a satisfying argument. Okay, I'm done."

Did you miss Forzare's post where he said he didn't want to be part of a forum that allowed this? Believe it or not, these two arguments follow the exact same line of reasoning.

nohaynicklibre

While I think SA is actually a prety good forum,I agree that we shouldn't make our posts thinking "Um,will the SA guys approve of this" because most likely they won't

AnneBeeche

Nice to see I'm being called a liar. The thread exists, currently on the second page of the Post Your Favorite (or Request) forum.

I'm not calling you a liar, I just didn't think the thread actually existed.

Apparently it does. Whatever. What SA does doesn't really matter. It's what people do on this forum that matters.

Noimporta

I still don't see why the dick posting is a big deal, and no one will tell me.

It's in poor taste. Just adding a NSFW mark is not enough, since NSFW is a very broad concept, that goes from talking about fetishes to posting hardcore german porn, and there was no reason to make it an embedded image. It's also pretty damn out of place, "hey IJBM. here's the picture of a penis". Finally, it's puerile and it oversteps boundaries, most people don't want to know about your cybersex adventures, no matter how many other IJBMers it involves.

Vivi

No they aren't at all Everest.

glennmagusharvey

@Vivi: And so you don't think that "people not wanting to hang out in a place where someone posts a picture of a penis for a thread" is a good enough reason?

Well, I'm going to disagree.

Noimporta

but is not worse than things that have happened before and not been locked

For example?

All Nines

@Vivi:

Hosting service argument: It's supposed to be a welcoming environment for people.

Part of a forum argument: "I don't want to be here if this sort of thing happens."

They're part of the same line of reasoning: "We want people to feel comfortable here --> this makes people feel uncomfortable --> we ban this."

I edited my post in case your issue was merely with syntax.

ninjaclown

Guys, let's just all calm down and listen to some soothing music.

Vivi

Well, to be honest...I think maybe they should get over it. People get
mad at things like cybering and being hugboxes in their threads,
derailing them annoyingly, trolling, harrassment, stuff like that. But
if I said, I don't want to be on a site that allows threads made by
Chagen (:p) No one would that's justified. Pedantic argument, I know,
but you know what I mean. If people didn't want to go into the thread,
they didn't have to. It's one thread, made by some 17 year old kid on
the internet, in a sea of threads, that probably would have died
eventually. A few people cared, a majority didn't. I don't see why it
matters.

Elbeem

While I think SA is actually a prety good forum,I agree that we
shouldn't make our posts thinking "Um,will the SA guys approve of this"
because most likely they won't

This is basically what I meant in the other thread when I said that I worried "What will SA think?" would become the community standard.

Setting community standards that deem certain things inappropriate is fine, but basing it all on whether other websites might make fun of a particular thing is a needlessly paranoid way of going about it, in my opinion.

Noimporta

Sorry, but that argument doesn't fly in a small community forum with a reduced userbase and a low thread turnover.

Icalasari

^^ Thank you Elbeem for wording it better than I did

All Nines

"People get 
mad at things like cybering and being hugboxes in their threads, 
derailing them annoyingly, trolling, harrassment, stuff like that."

How is posting genitalia not on the same level as, or worse than, any of those things?

"But 

if I said, I don't want to be on a site that allows threads made by 
Chagen (:p)"

How is that comparable to posting genitalia? One is a poor reflection of the mindset of the entire userbase, and one is, at best, a poor reflection of the moderation team's priorities.

Nyarly

...Seriously?

Vivi

Are we allowed to have threads where people post images of hitler having gay sex, gifs of girls masturbating in classrooms,?

Vivi

In any case, while I still completely disagree with almost all of you on this topic, I accept the hand I've been dealt. I've made my bed and I'll lie in it. I apologize for making that thread, and causing the drama in this one. I won't post anything of that nature again.

glennmagusharvey

@Vivi:

As a user, you don't have to worry about how the site as a whole is doing, but as mods, we do.  And that means that shaping our policies and moderation in a style that discourages stupid shit like spam, porn, etc..  Now if you want to run your own open-season, everyone-posts-whatever-they-want website, you can go right ahead, but I guarantee you two things:
1. Rules will be created, be they unspoken and implied or explicitly stated.  People who don't abide by those rules will be given mean looks by others at best and banned at worst.
2. There will be people who will disagree with those rules.

Now, the vast majority of us are, to put it lightly, not too keen on hanging out in a forum where someone thinks it's okay to post a picture of a penis.  Perhaps you disagree with this cultural sensibility (which seems shared amongst most of us, despite us coming from all different cultures and backgrounds), but I hope you get that.

Not to mention it's not really a good conversation topic.

Vivi

This isn't a big enough deal for me to do anything like that. I dislike everyone hating me more, than having free speech.

glennmagusharvey

Okay, then what was the point of the thread in the first place?

Did it ever cross your mind that it might not be a good idea?