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Light Novels.

ChagenChagen
edited 2011-10-01 12:41:23 in General
[tɕagɛn]
Why do they always have more interesting plots than Western YA Novels? Seriously, Western YA Novels are fucking terrible melodramatic bullshit written by people who know fuck all about Teenagers. For every Harry Potter, there's a hundred Twilights.
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  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    There are a lot of really crappy light novels.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    Yeah, but at least they try to be original and interesting.
  • TheConductorTheConductor
    As much as I don't care for Twilight, Stephanie Meyer DID try to be original and interesting. Also, I direct you to this.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    Yes, that topic applies, but when you don't even try to put out a good story in the first place...

    In any case, an interesting plot is something much of Western YA fiction lacks.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    I don't think very many writers set out not at least trying to tell an interesting story.
  • ViviVivi
    edited 2011-10-01 12:50:14
    $80+ per session
    ^^I disagree. I read a lot of YA fiction.
  • DYREDYRE
    edited 2011-10-01 12:51:57
    Yeah, but at least they try to be original and interesting.   
     [citation needed]
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    Then why are they all boring anyway?

    Go to a YA section in a bookstore. You will see nothing but melodramatic high-school tripe, cliche paranormal romance that rips off of Twilight completely, Fantasy that tries to imitate Harry Potter without realizing what made it good in the first place, Fantasy that doesn't rip off of Harry Potter and still sucks anyway., and finally one good novel. Out of 100.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    Most of every genre is crap anyway.  In any aisle of the bookstore.

    And maybe some of it is good, but just doesn't appeal to you personally.
  • ChagenChagen
    [tɕagɛn]
    DYRE: From ANN, this Novel just had an Anime series greenlit:

    "The story of Sword Art Online revolves around a genius programmer named Kazuto "Kirito" Kirigaya who enters a virtual-reality, massively multi-player online (MMO) world called "Sword Art Online." There is no escape from this world unless the player clears the game, but "game over" means the death of the player."

    This is a vastly more interesting premise than any YA novel I've seen. Which is kinda sad.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    I've read at least one YA novel with pretty much that premise.
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    I've read a YA novel with that premise.

    I've read a lot of very very good YA novels. I have a growing collection. You are misinformed Chagen.
  • DYREDYRE
    edited 2011-10-01 12:57:50

    ^^^ Be honest.  Have you ever seen a story with that premise that didn't suck?  I sure haven't.

    Anyway, most light novels are just harem/fantasy/moeshit that's pretty much indistinguishable from any other light novels.  Though some of them are good, of course, and for various reasons you're more likely to hear about the ones that are than the ones that aren't.


  • ChagenChagen
    edited 2011-10-01 12:57:52
    [tɕagɛn]
    Forzare: Yeah, but it probably sucked shit anyway.
  • captainbrasscaptainbrass
    I find the name of the genre confusing. I think of "light novel" as a rather old-fashioned term for a comic novel or maybe a romance, like PG Wodehouse or something.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    I don't remember it sucking shit.  I remember quite liking it.
  • DYREDYRE
    edited 2011-10-01 13:08:06
    ^^ Well it's "light" as in "light reading," since they're largely dialogue-driven and don't use obscure kanji and are in general written in such a way that they're easy to read.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    edited 2011-10-01 13:10:44
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    "The story of Sword Art Online revolves around a genius programmer named Kazuto "Kirito" Kirigaya who enters a virtual-reality, massively multi-player online (MMO) world called "Sword Art Online." There is no escape from this world unless the player clears the game, but "game over" means the death of the player."
    Um...so a guy enters a videogame and has to beat it or die?

    I've seen at least ten works with this premise, one of them just a week ago. It's pretty overdone.
  • IcalasariIcalasari
    No rainbow star
    Chagen, maybe it's just that the format appeals to you more than YA's format does
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    Found it.
  • TheConductorTheConductor
    edited 2011-10-01 14:10:24
    Thumped.
  • NoimportaNoimporta
    Blah blah Sturgeon's Law, blah blah import/translation filter blah blah it's all the same shit blah.
  • dmboogiedmboogie
    edited 2011-10-01 17:02:46
    probably human
    ^^^

    That is indeed an awesome book.

    But yeah, there are tons of good YA novels out there, sometimes you just have to search for them...
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    Chagen, it;s quite possible you have your cultural context glasses off. Western translations tend to be the cream of the crop. We get Haruhi and Spice & Wolf, but think of all the shit we don't get.

    I doubt Kyle X or whatever it is got translated into Japanese.
  • NyktosNyktos
    a little muffled
    Oh man, I remember Heir Appparent! I fuckin loved that book.
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    Also, fourteen-year-old me fucking loved the Drizzt novels so I will not hear a word against them.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    ^^, ^^^^ Fuck yeah.
  • NyktosNyktos
    a little muffled
    The Bartimaeus Trilogy is considered YA, therefore OP is wrong.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    Those count as YA?

    Those were my favorite books for years.  I'm sure I still have those.  I should read them again.
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    Animorphs also had a pretty unique concept though they probably don't hold up under my current scrutiny.
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