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  • (I just read the first six issues of The Young Avengers and I believe I may be in love...hmm)

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    So, read BKV's Runaways run. I'm not sure how I feel about Vol. 2. For one thing, the main death that drives act 3 felt kinda forced. Then again, I didn't really like that particular character, so I didn't feel much sympathy for her.


    I also was kinda annoyed at the Runaways' iconoclastic attitude at times. Namely during their meeting with Spider-Man, I dunno. I don't mind mockery of heroes, really, but it did feel at times that they were just being antagonizing for the sake of being antagonizing. Especially considering that Spider-Man was pretty much a teenage kid who had powers and fighted crime once, too. The fact that that meeting could have gone to more places that noting that before being knocked out is kinda saddish. I mean, I get where the attitude comes from, because they are teenagers and blah de blah, so I wouldn't say that the book is bad because of it, but I didn't enjoy that aspect of the book.


    With that said, the book had some really great kids being kids moments like them going shopping for food and clothes that made up for it. But I think Runaways is much better when it's its own thing than when the Avengers are involved, mostly because it feels at times as if the Avengers are a buncha incompetents tools. Which I guess is how the kids see them, but doesn't fit what a reader knows about them, considering their previous endeavors and all that.


    But yeah, besides some rather bothersome flaws for me, the book was golden stuff, overall. 

  • I'm a damn twisted person
    To be fair, at that point in time the Avengers were incompetent tools. Or authoritarian douchebags.



    Did you read Whedon's run yet?
  • You can change. You can.

    To be fair, at that point in time the Avengers were incompetent tools. Or authoritarian douchebags.



    I suppose so, but it still feels kinda annoying. Either way, I guess that what bothers me is the whole "Criticizing of capes while doing what they do without the wacky costumes" which comes across as hypocritical.



    Did you read Whedon's run yet?



    Yep. Thought it was alright, even if he kinda turns Chase into Xander/Wash/Topher. But I guess it wouldn't be a Joss story without a Joss character.

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    >teenagers

    >being hypocritical



    Yeah and Chase being wacky joke guy was... Off but not enough to be annoying. I'd say just avoid volume 3 and skip to their crossover with Avengers Academy.
  • I just finished Mark Waid's Irredeemable and I have to say, that ending...wow...I have genuine chills from it! It could not have ended more perfectly!

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    I'm reading the Civil War/Secret Invasion tie-ins and then skipping volume 3 to the Avengers Academy crossover (Which was actually why I decided to finish it in the first place). 


    Also, I find it funny that Wells, Caselli and Ramos have all worked on Runaways considering they'd end up working in Spider-Man. Which makes me think that if it returns, I want either Wells or Slott writing them with Caselli doing the pretty pictures thing.

  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!

    Whedon's runaways was decent but not as good. I think Whedon's big problem is he writes comic scripts the same way he writes film scripts and so a lot of his jokes just aren't as clever when read.


    And Terry Moore's run... ugh....

  • I can't read Irredeemable because it hits just a little too close to home.
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    I just read Batman 10 and oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god can't wait till next month.


    I love how the story's main revelation at the end fits something Batman said early about detectiving so damn well.

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    Man this week in comics was great. It doesn't hurt that it was a week with a lot X-men, Spider-man, Batman and Fantastic Four comics. Ends of the Earth was a little extra long but it was fuckawesome.



    And in American Vampire, Shit gets real when Dracula gets loose. And Kitty Pryde shows some serious guts when she refuses to take the grim dark of Ultimate Marvel lying down.
  • edited 2012-06-13 17:47:31
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    Just read Batman 10 and Demon Knights 10.


    But...well, I can't really comment on them until I'm positive everyone's read them. A lot of stuff is happening this month, seems like.

  • edited 2012-06-13 18:09:48
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    I really doubt Lincoln is actually who he says he is. At most, it'll be left ambiguous. That said, he's a good character just by virtue of thinking he's who he says he is.


    As for your speculation that the backup story is leading into why Bruce's parents died...I really doubt that. Here's what I think will happen:

    Spoiler:
    The car accident was the Court of Owls' big move, and it worked. They didn't need to have the Waynes killed, because they'd already pretty much broken them.
    But that's just my guess. And partially wishful thinking, because that murder does not need a retcon.

  • I'm a damn twisted person
    But he said the Court didn't have anything to do with the Wayne's murder.
  • edited 2012-06-13 18:18:21
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    That doesn't confirm it for sure, since it just tells us what the Court told him.

    Spoiler:
    I mean, they're not just going to go "oh, and by the way, we killed your parents."

  • You can change. You can.

    It doesn't have to involve directly the Court. Personally, making the Court involved is one of those things I'm rather reticent about but not one I wouldn't welcome, depending on the part they play. Either way, what I'm expecting is an indirect implication on the level of "They were aware of the Waynes and tried to kill them"



    At most, it'll be left ambiguous



    Yeah, that's what I expect, but like I said, there's circumnstancial evidence backing up his claim. The issue is how these things will end up playing out.



    The car accident was the Court of Owls' big move, and it worked. They didn't need to have the Waynes killed, because they'd already pretty much broken them.



    I see two options here, regarding the accident:


    I'm expecting for the miscarriage to happen after the car accident and then them taking Lincoln away once he's in Willowood, if things end up being exactly as the Court and Lincoln claim they are (Or at least, I think he "learned" who he is from the Court)


    If they aren't (The most likely event), they probably just indoctrinated him so that he would eventually backstab Bruce once he earned his trust.



    As for your speculation that the backup story is leading into why Bruce's parents died...I really doubt that. 



    I'm not expecting a full retcon or anything, so much as how much was the Court involved in the last days of Bruce's parents life and how did the Court affect them until the day they died.


    Either way, I think it's worthwhile to point out that Bruce looks like a toddler in the flashbacks and that he doesn't get to see his parents die in Crime Alley until he's 10-ish

  • You can change. You can.

    Also, read Spider-Man. I thought it was a bit of a lack-luster ending to an otherwise impressive arc, but it was good enough, i thought. I liked that at the end, Peter saved everyone he could, even if he couldn't save you-know-who

  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    Incidentally, where's a good spot to pick up Spider-Man? I'm already reading Avenging, but I want more.

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    Personally, I recommend you read both New Ways to Die and American Son for sweet Spider-Man versus Green Goblin as Chief of National Security goodness, but they aren't really good jumping points.


    The Big Time arc that kicks off Dan Slott's current run is the best one by far (It starts at Amazing Spider-Man 568)

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    Green Goblin as Chief of National Security



    Whose bright idea was that?


    Anyway, I'll definitely check that out.

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    People are more than willing to forgive one killing spree here or there if you can protect them from being killed by shapeshifting aliens in the US.

  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    Admittedly, not getting killed by shapeshifting aliens is a pretty good selling point.

  • edited 2012-06-13 19:46:22
    You can change. You can.

    But anyway, basically, what happened was:


    *After Civil War, Tony was made Director of SHIELD because Nick Fury resigned and he was the Government's main stooge by then.


    *Skrulls started to inflitrate Earth thinking that earth was their designated planet because of a prophecy. They captured and impersonated various key members of different super-teams and organizations, such as Sue Storm. 


    *Norman Osborn, previously appointed director of the Thunderbolts program (Basically, evil guys disguising themselves as good guys end up becoming good guys themselves), kills the Skrull queen and is appointed director of SHIELD and HAMMER, because the government and the world populace distrusts most of the heroes after the Secret Invasion, including Stark. He then forms a criminal cabal alongside big names like Namor and DOOOOOOOOOOOM. Then he reinvents himself as Iron Patriot, which is pretty much what you can guess (An AMERICAN Iron Man suit)

  • I'm a damn twisted person
    After some reflection, the Ends of the Earth finale was solid with a lot of really stand out moments. Like Thor's hammer, Rhino's last stand, Spider-man and Doc Ock's confrontation. There is still an epilogue in Avenging Spider-man next week.



    But yeah The Big Time is the best point to jump on to modern Spider-man comics. There is a collected trade for like the first 20 issues of Slott's run.



    Reviews for this week's comics later tonight.
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    I'm not so sure how I feel about the Mjolnir moment, but Rhino vs Silver Sable was pretty damn good and emotional. 


    And that moment when Doc Ock gets out of the suit...unf. 


    I did feel it was somewhat anticlimactic,but I think Avenging Spider-Man will fix that.

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    The hammer drop is important to the arc as a whole because it removes any doubt about Otto's intentions.
  • edited 2012-06-13 20:24:35
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    Well, yeah, but I think that was pretty clear, no?


    What bothers me is that Thor is able to wield it while being controlled, though. And that Octopus' not really wielding it. 


    Then again, magic. 


    Anyway, a friend pointed out that if Lincoln March being Thomas Wayne Jr, is a reference to Owlman


    ...that is pretty clever.

  • edited 2012-06-13 23:29:02
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!

    So I read some comics


    Avenging Spider-Man 6: Good start to the story arc. I really like how the Spider-man/Daredevil/Punisher trio interact.


    Punisher 10: Still had some good jokes, but I didn't like it as much. Daredevil seems a bit flatter in this one than in the other two, for one thing. Didn't dislike it, but it's definitely the least good part of the arc.


    Daredevil 11: I'm of two minds about this. On the one hand, the entire story arc amounted to nothing. On the other hand, Daredevil's speech about what makes a superhero was excellent, and the highlight of what was overall a very good arc. So I'm willing to let it slide.


    Amazing Spider-Man 568: Very good. I picked up the status quo very quickly despite it being over a hundred issues before the Spider-Man stuff I've actually read. Looking forward to seeing where this is going.


    And regarding the Owl-Man thing: I really like the concept of "crazy guy who thinks he's Batman's evil brother" as a villain, and I'm hoping he'll stick around.

  • I'm a damn twisted person

    I dunno, I thought the bit where it revealed Peter's life saving tech was being used by Otto in his plan added some ambiguity to his actions. But that was a conflation thing more than anything. 

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