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Being bugged leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to Banishment: Malkavian and Star Wars

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  • No rainbow star
    ^ With a chance of Palin taking over
  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    And now...

    Attack of The Clones

    Now, if I were asked what I thought the worst Star Wars film was... I'd probably say the Ewoks movie, but of the main ones this is pretty easily the worst. It's still not completely without merit though. I think the biggest problem with AotC is how much if feels like an apology. We have Jango Fett as an apology fo r Fett going out like a bitch, we've got less Jar-Jar, more Jedi action, and to top it off we have it fixated in a terrible terrible romance. 

    Now let's get one thing straight: Lucas hates teenagers. It's evident with both Luke Skywalker and that guy whose name I don't remember in American Grafitti. They're stupid and impatient and don't listen to wiser voices in their movies until they learn to grow the hell up. It's different in Attack of The Clones, though. This is a story of a pair of socially maladjusted teens making terrible decisions that destroy them. 

    The intention doesn't make Anakin talking about sand in his show any less painful though. About the only thing the romance succeeds at is foreshadowing Anakin's eventual fall to darkness. Otherwise it's a failure on every level. Portman's proven herself to be an accomplished actress since but she's no miracle worker and the less said about Christensen's in the romance acting the better.

    I think it's portrayal of the Jedi is pretty spot-on, though. Some people say they wish that Anakin had been less of an emotional wreck in the films and more of an arrogant, aloof dick. That wouldn't really have worked in my mind, not the least of which is because that role is left to the Jedi in this film. It's made abundantly clear that the Jedi have become arrogant and self-assured, thus distancing themselves from the force. It's done rather cleverly, with the extreme exception of Obi-wan being unable to assume that a planet could be deleted from the Jedi archives. My personal favorite is when Mace Windu goes to bat for former Jedi Dooku and Padme gives him a 'Are you fucking serious?' face.

    Oh, but Ewan MacGregor. Looking back, I'd have a hard time describing his arc in the film or why it made sense but it's definitely the best part of the film. MacGregor, all other issues with the film aside, is a great Obi-wan, which is helped by the fact that he also gets the best lines in the film. ("If droids could think, there'd be none of us left now, would there?") MacGregor's really charming and he can bring the awkward poetry of Lucas dialogue to life. The arc is really loosely connected action and effects set pieces that hint to that hint to the Original trilogy but they are at least fun to watch which is more than I can say for the majority of Anakin's terrible arc.

    I think Lucas' genuine talent as cinematographer, if not a writer, really comes forward in this film. With the exception of the infamous 'I will be the most powerful Jedi' scene Tatooine is handled pretty great, though Williams' score owes a heavy hand in that as well. The Jedi siege at the arena is really a lot of fun, and Yoda's fight is just the right side of ridiculous. However, compliments like this really apply to every Star Wars film. Say what you will about story structure, fucker knows how to point a camera.

    Darth Dracula's presence is kind of awkward but it's clear that Christopher Lee is having a blast with the role, though it's unfortunate that he doesn't get much flavor. (something Tartakovsky's shorts remedy) This is another weakness of Clones: it lacks a strong villain. Tyrannus is fun when Dooku's on the screen, but he lacks the overall sense of menace that Maul and even Grievous had. Jango Fett is pure fanservice and we all know it. The stand-off on Kamino between Fett and Obi-wan could have been a fun tete-a-tete but instead comes off as passive-aggressive. This makes the movie largely aimless, unlike the other films which all have clear and readily apparent threats.

    Really, what makes Clones bad is that it's an apology letter. I think a lot of fans think Lucas hates and doesn't care about them, but here Lucas tried to meet us halfway. "We want less goofiness!" the fans cried. "We want more action!" "We want Boba Fett!" and those are all in the film. Lucas, as a result, is much less comfortable film. There are good moments, and it's not something that is a total waste to watch, but this really does have the least focus and the most lost of the films.
  • One foot in front of the other, every day.
    MacGregor, all other issues with the film aside, is a great Obi-wan


    Seriously. Sometimes I break out the prequels just to witness this man.

    I think the Yoda fight is totally dumb, though.

    Speaking of dumb fighting, this gives me an opportunity to point out the single worst piece of choreography I've ever seen. Remember when Dracula cuts Anakin's arm off? If you give a shit, fast forward to that bit again and think critically. So they both strike, and there's a bind, right? An instant where their weapons meet. Saruman pulls away for a follow-up strike and Anakin just sits there like a shithead and literally allows his arm to get cut off.

    This is the single worst moment of fight choreography I have ever witnessed. It's martially unsound, there being no way any sort of swordsman would just stay there, so it ends up being a completely contrived way to set up the parallel with Luke.

    But if it rhymes, I guess?

    Like poetry.
  • You can change. You can.
    I think Lucas' genuine talent as cinematographer, if not a writer, really comes forward in this film.

    I actually was reading a presentation by Lucas for the EICTV where he mentioned that he never gets involved in the visual aspect of his movies, beyond maybe supervising. And whereas directors like Spielberg and Coppola tend to check in with their photography director and camarographer, he just let them do their thing.

    This totally needed to be pointed out.
  • "so it ends up being a completely contrived way to set up the parallel with Luke. "

    That's a weird way to spell "Ponda Baba"
  • You can change. You can.
    >Ponda Baba

    Mym comfirmed for EUfag.


  • Myrmy: My sister loved Jarjar too. 
  • I know the name and the life story of the the Storm Trooper who said "Look sir! Droids!"
  • No rainbow star
    My mom loves Jarjar
  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    Jesus, a lot of Hammer actors were in Star Wars. Christopher Lee, David Prowse, Peter Cushing...

    Lucas must have been a fan.
  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    Revenge of The Sith

    Brace yourselves, motherfuckers, because Revenge of The Sith is a good film. I'll give you all a moment to retrieve your monocles to explain why I love this movie.

    Have it back? Good, good. See, coming hot off the heels of the embarrassment that was part 2, Lucas finally figured out how to meld his vision with the fans. It's been joked that director Irvin Kershner wasn't told that Empire Strikes Back was supposed to be a Republic serial, and here I think it's gone the opposite direction: we finally convinced Lucas that Star Wars wasn't just a set of fun movies but a cultural and mythological phenomenon. This film takes the term Space Opera quite literally. The metaphors and allusions are upped, and the scope is even more melodramatic than before.

    This movie is Star Wars, warts and all. Two and half decades of films, novels, comics, toys, video games, and obsessed fandom in a condensed two hours for your viewing pleasure. It's no suprise that things work out so well. Yes, even the politics.

    Lucas has repeatedly stated that one of the major themes of the prequels is how democracy is dissolved through willing counsel and it's very apparent, but this is the only film where it actually works in conjunction with the high-spectacle action of the film. We've got a society driven to fear by a zero sum game with mounting corruption and a peace-keeping force that has become indolent and dogmatic over the years. The Jedi's failure here is hand-in-hand with Anakin, a man who needs answers for things and 'Because it leads to the Dark Side' doesn't cut it. There are political implications in almost everything that happens in this film, such as the dark overtones of Windu deciding to take the law into his own hands.

    Christensen is somewhat better in this movie. While I'd hardly call him good, three years have given Anakin some swagger to his step and he does feel legitimately badass when he turns to the dark side, even though it's cheapened by now infamous (though thematically appropriate) screaming "No!" to the sky. He doesn't hold a candle Ian McDiarmid, though.

    See, McDiarmid doesn't just steal the show. He takes on a tour across Europe and then holds it for ransom while the show suffers from Stockholm syndrome. He gets the kind of movie that this should be better than any actor perhaps in the history of these films. The transition from respectable-but-obviously-corrupt politician to full on cackling Supervillain seems like something that would be really awkward but he makes it work without skipping a beat. 

    Then there's the spectacle, which this film really delivers on. The film itself opens on easily the best space battle the series has and then goes into full swashbuckler mode and I actually found Anakin more or less likable here, maybe because he was blowing shit up and making one-liners. Normally Lucas' tendency to cut between several action scenes (seen also in Jedi and Menace) is a bit jarring but it works here. The Yoda-Palpatine fight is somehow both more over-the-top than the one against Darth Dracula and at the same time lacks any of the silliness it had. A lot can be said for Grievous just being there just for more action scenes (something I have to admit I'm perfectly okay with) but I love the action scene between him and Obi-wan and seeing Obi-wan ride a giant lizard thing is just great.

    The dialogue is of course weird as always, but this movie also has a weird thing where people emphasize the wrong word. Like Obi-wan will say "Did I miss something?" rather than "Did I miss something?" and other weird things. I'm not sure if it's the actors or Lucas or what, but I'm over thirty years too late to complain about awkward dialgoue and acting.

    There's a lot of directorial and editing brilliance in this film as well. The Order 66 scene alone makes this film artistically important in my eyes and the CGI works a lot better than in the other films and especially contrasting it to the shitty CGI in the Nightmare on Elm Street remake (which I remind came half a decade later) Lucas does know how to put shine and polish on something.

    The craziest thing about Sith for me is how well it works on its own to me. We seriously could have skipped over Episode 1 and 2 and this film would still make perfect sense and work fine. This film, oddly, gets almost as much hate as Menace, usually citing the "NOOOO!". I sometimes wonder if it's because they hated the first two and why not make it a hat trick but that's assuming things about fans I probably shouldn't.

    And with the conclusion of prequel reviews, riddle me this IJBMers!

    What does Darth Vader want for Christmas?
  • edited 2011-11-01 18:59:36

    "What does Darth Vader want for Christmas?"

    If that means what I think it means....

    Anyways, yes, Palpatine totally makes this film. The saga wouldn't have been the same without Ian McDiarmid's performance. Though it also means that Palpatine just about completely steals the main villain role away from Vader.

  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    Not like he doesn't do that in Jedi too. 
  • One foot in front of the other, every day.
    he does feel legitimately badass when he turns to the dark side


    Where's Malk and what did you do with him!? D:<
  • edited 2011-11-01 19:03:27
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    Revenge of the Sith is the only one of the prequels I still enjoy.
  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    I find it funny that Star Wars is recognized as a fun-loving space adventure, but the best film of each trilogy is the darkest.

    ^^I knew you'd u mad.
  • You can change. You can.
    I honestly think that Revenge was a good film regardless of Christensen's acting and the wooden dialogue (Which I didn't have to deal with back then because I watched the movies dubbed in Spanish. Which means that I never heard stuff like "You're breaking my heart, Anakin!")

    With that said, it's sad that Lucas never managed to write proper non-ad-libbed dialogue for his characters in a trilogy spawning 60-70 years. 

    While I love Palpatine in this movie, I really have to hand it to McGregor for this one. His acting as Obi Wan during the final fight, when he realizes just how far has Anakin fallen is pretty much the most powerful moment in the prequel trilogy.

    It's sad, though, that most of its flaws are purely within the coontext of the two movies that preceded it and the burdens it had to work with those (Like Jar-Jar, Darth Tyrannus, etc etc)  But it's still a really good film, with great intentions and a bit of a lackluster execution, as it's par for the course with the prequels, but rather enjoyable. (The action is stilll awful as fuck, btw)
  • One foot in front of the other, every day.
    Yeah, what drags Revenge down is that it had two worse movies come before it, and it had to deal with their logic. That doesn't excuse some continuous failfaggotry on Lucas' part, though, such as Anakin's godawful turn to the Dark Side and the inclusion of another pointless villain. Seriously, Darth Maul ought to have been the Darth Vader of this trilogy.

    While the final fight between Anakin and Obi-Wan is easily the best drama in all the prequels (and something that hits me a bit to this day), it has another Stupid Sword Moment that's unforgivable. The two of them are fighting in some kind of navigation room or something, and then they both decide to do exactly the same stupid thing. It's some kind of three-second flourish that becomes a strike. So they're just standing there, for seconds on end, waving their weapons about without footwork, hitting nothing and both ending up making the most basic strike of swordsmanship.

    This is what I mean about awful fight choreography. If you want a three-second flourish, that flourish has to be worked into a dangerous set of strikes on its own merits in practical combat terms. Consequently, that means the other fighter should be reacting to it, in turn making the fight sequence more interesting.
  • You can change. You can.
    Sorry Alex, but I just...have..to...the Anon in me...can't...control...him!

    gragfrsdzci!

    >2011
    >Caring about a series of movies about space wizard samurai fighting being realistic or not even bizarre.

  • One foot in front of the other, every day.
    To be fair, I'll accept a fair amount of silliness in the fights. But it's that particular moment that's just ridiculous. It's another one of those moments that just left me confused, even without fencing knowledge.

    For instance, the OT's fighting tends to be slow, lumbering and sometimes brutish, but still essentially makes sense. Sure, the PT's fights are super-flashy and take more technical skill to pull off, but in any ways they're a regression of what we originally saw.
  • You can change. You can.
    For instance, the OT's fighting tends to be slow, lumbering and sometimes brutish, but still essentially makes sense.

    dude...there are like...50 openings in the Vader vs Ben fight in which Vader would have easily killed Obi Wan.
  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    Has to make you wonder if the fights would have been better if Mifune were Obi-wan.
  • You can change. You can.
    but but but...

    who else could have said "You'll never win, Darth" as awesomely as Guiness did D:
  • One foot in front of the other, every day.
    ^^^ nope.avi

    Mind you, it's not perfect, I'mma let you finish, ect.

    Here's a martial sword concept that all swordsmen must keep in mind at all times:

    Point the damn thing at the bastard that's trying to kill you.

    Despite being martial, and having killing intent, swordsmanship has something of a "metagame". By simply keeping your point trained on your adversary, you threaten them with a thrust. This means they can't just do anything they want; they have to choose a technique that deals with the thrust. So by simply pointing your sword at someone, you actually defend your openings.

    That martial concept I outlined up there? The originals follow that one really well, and that's important because it's one of the cornerstones of all swordsmanship. It's so important, in fact, that almost all techniques are designed to end with your adversary dead or, failing that, your point trained on their face or chest.
  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    A New Hope

    Here's where it all started. I don't think a lot of people appreciate how much Star Wars changed the world, though having been born afterwards might have something to do with that. Without Star Wars the idea of a franchise that would sell toys as its primary goal was unthinkable. Hell, I doubt even Lucas knew what he had stumbled onto by keeping the merchandising rights. A lot of people like to point to obvious and immediate films that try to be the next Star Wars like Tron and The Last Starfighter. However, with the influence of Star Wars we'd have no Transformers or similar toy-comnmercial cartoons, no hugely popular Burton Batman film, no Back to The Future, no Six-film Avengers Franchise. It opened the flood gates for a whole new subset of market-based film but let's not focus on the bad things Star Wars unintentionally did and instead on how well it does it.

    Let's get one thing out of the way, Star Wars is a great film. It's exciting, fun, and it makes you completely forget about it's many technical flaws which is the mark of a great film. I was watching the Special Edition and you can whine about how Han Shot First or whatever, but this is Lucas' film and his version is the only one that matters, no matter how many T-shirts you buy that say otherwise. Honestly, the Special Edition does help solve a rather glaring issue I have with the film. At least in the first act.

    I daresay though that just as Phantom Menace isn't anywhere near the offense to God people make it out to be Star Wars is indeed not the earthly manifestation of Christ. This film is a high-tech (for the time) recreation of a Republic serial and that means a lot of things. One of the things it means is excellent characters with lousy acting.

    Not all of them, mind you. Alec Guiness, Peter Cushing, and James Earl Jones are great, and to paraphrase Scrubs if every man who finds Harrison Ford attractive is gay we're gonna have to be handing out a lot of pride parade stickers with his movie tickets. And I need to give respect for these at-the-time unknowns throwing themselves into roles that must have looked patently silly compared to breakout works like The Graduate or even Halloween. I mean we have nineteen-year-old Luke Skywalker and he's sitting in his garage playing with his model X-wing completely straight-faced and he tries oh so hard to make "But I was gonna go to the power station to pick up some power coverters." sound like something a human being would actually say, but it's a pretty rough to watch as an adult.

    One character that definitely needs more props: Princess Leia. This chick is awesome. She's given way more reason to fall apart and be a damsel in distress than many female leads in similar movies, but what does she do? Snark at the first stormtrooper she sees, grab a blaster from that asshole and blow themselves an escape route. It's really a shame how many movies this film has inspired and barely any of them have a female character of the same caliber as Leia.

    I think Vader is kind of a problem in this film. He's imposing and he's badass but he doesn't do as much as one would think his reputation led to. Leia says that Tarkin is holding his leash and that's exactly what he is in this film: a dog on a leash. He gets a fight with a geriatric Jedi and flies around a bit and that's about it. This is one of the cases where having sequels definitely helped for Vader more than for anyone else though everyone else definitely benefitted as well.

    This film also isn't as tight as people like to believe it is. For a film that sets up such an expansive and large sprawling world, it feels ridiculously small at the end. It's obvious that Lucas realized this flaw and tried to remedy it with not a lot of positive response. But at the beginning of the film we get such an expansive and varied world that the finale feels confined and limited by response. We really don't have a reason to believe the Empire has been dealt a blow or the justice really triumphed. Heck, we don't even have that much reason to think Vader flying off into space is that big a deal.

    A New Hope is never going to get watched by me and not get a recommendation but in hindsight I feel the obsession needs to die down. There have been films with better spectacle that also understand the human condition better. There have been characters that have and should strike inspiration in you more than Luke Skywalker has. This is not a film worth dedicating your life to as so many have.

    I don't hate Star Wars. Not by a long shot. I wouldn't have written this series of reviews if I had. No, I hate what people do to themselves because of it. I hate how selfish it makes them. Talking about it as though it was theirs and as though it was owed to them. It's not something that enriched their lives. It's an addiction. But I guess that's a whole different problem.
  • They're somethin' else.
  • edited 2011-11-07 21:09:35

    "This film also isn't as tight as people like to believe it is. For a film that sets up such an expansive and large sprawling world, it feels ridiculously small at the end. It's obvious that Lucas realized this flaw and tried to remedy it with not a lot of positive response. But at the beginning of the film we get such an expansive and varied world that the finale feels confined and limited by response. We really don't have a reason to believe the Empire has been dealt a blow or the justice really triumphed. Heck, we don't even have that much reason to think Vader flying off into space is that big a deal."

    As one who got into the series relatively late, I am reminded of how incomplete the ending seemed. At least The Fellowship of The Ring's ending was a satisfying transition into the next movie, but here, like you said, it's like they tried to make it stand on its own as a huge victory for good even though the Empire is still alive and well.

    "I was watching the Special Edition and you can whine about how Han Shot First or whatever, but this is Lucas' film and his version is the only one that matters, no matter how many T-shirts you buy that say otherwise. Honestly, the Special Edition does help solve a rather glaring issue I have with the film. At least in the first act."

    I am curious as to what that issue was even though you seem to be going out of your way to avoid spoilers.

    As for Han Shot First, yeah, the backlash is rather anal, but it is kind of odd that if it was meant as a homage to The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly that Lucas would change it from the original meaning of that scene.

  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    Yeah, it's really helped that sequels came along, but I find it kind of weird that people thought that ending would stand up on its own.
  • You can change. You can.
    it's like they tried to make it stand on its own as a huge victory for good even though the Empire is still 
    alive and well.

    But the rebellion was weak and barely managing to fight at the beginning of the movie. However, by the end, they have managed to gain significant tactical advantage against the empire and managed to get a would-be Jedi and Harrison Ford on their side.

    The sequels were redundant, cuz the game was already over from there. 

    bitch.
  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    Yeah, I know that, but the movie doesn't let us know that. Not at 1977 at least.
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