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"Non-explicit sexualization of children isn't that bad! It's not actually child pornography!"

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  • BobBob
    edited 2011-08-17 00:37:51
    ^^^So do a lot of grown women. I'm just saying, it's stupid to think take "porn can't have pubes depicted in it anymore" to mean "LET'S MAKE PORN OF LITTLE GIRLS, IT'S TOTALLY OKAY NOW!"
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    No, it looked like you were saying children's lingerie doesn't count as sexualizing them, and I was merely saying that that's not true.

    I meant it's not sexualizing them explicitly- that is, it's not outright porn, it's erotica, if that makes sense? Still sexualizing, but not explicit.

    I've heard a lot of people say things along the lines of 'It's not explicit, so it's okay!'. That argument is stupid, and I thought I'd post this top rebut that.
  • All NinesAll Nines
    edited 2011-08-17 00:39:54
    Has friends besides tanks now
    "DAMMIT JAPAN YOU WERE DOING SO WELL"

    They were?

    "I've heard a lot of people say things along the lines of 'It's not explicit, so it's okay!'. That argument is stupid, and I thought I'd post this top rebut that."

    Oh, well, yeah, those people are stupid.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    So do a lot of grown women. I'm just saying, it's stupid to think take "porn can't have pubes depicted in it anymore" to mean "LET'S MAKE PORN OF LITTLE GIRLS, IT'S TOTALLY OKAY NOW!"

    It is very stupid.

    Merely noting.
  • HatterHatter
    edited 2011-08-17 00:39:51
    Glaives are better.
    Wait, having sex with children is considered PREFERABLE to having sex with a consenting, theoretically attractive adult whose job revolves around making you feel good?

    WHAT THE FUCK JAPAN

    ^^ They haven't raped and murdered millions of people in about seventy years. That's pretty good.
  • BobBob
    "DAMMIT JAPAN YOU WERE DOING SO WELL"

    [citation needed]
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Oh, well, yeah, those people are stupid.

    They're also really prevalent.
  • All NinesAll Nines
    edited 2011-08-17 00:48:16
    Has friends besides tanks now
    "They haven't raped and murdered millions of people in about seventy years. That's pretty good."

    It's good, but that's expected, and if they were still keeping it up, I imagine numerous world powers would've stepped in and told them to cut the shit by now.

    And that doesn't stop a bunch of their less world-shaking morals from repulsing me.

    May I remind you of its 99.97% conviction rate, and the fact that a bunch of train gropers and other perverted filth don't get reported due to a twisted sense of honor, and thus render cultural pressure to plead guilty moot, if not detrimental.
  • BobBob
    edited 2011-08-17 00:43:23
    They haven't raped and murdered millions of people in about seventy years. That's pretty good.

    That's not "good". It's not "good" to avoid doing things that you shouldn't be doing in the first place.

    ^Also, this. All of it.
  • HatterHatter
    edited 2011-08-17 00:45:55
    Glaives are better.
    Japan was pretty much the worst of the worst during the War, though. They killed millions and millions of Southeast Asians, performed horrific experiments on them, abused prisoners... they were awful. So the seventy years of peace since then are quite a dramatic shift.

    I'm not saying that Japan doesn't have issues. It has major issues, issues which probably should get some attention. But in comparison to prewar Japan, they're doing better.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    May I remind you of its 99.7% conviction rate
    Pretty sure it's 99.97%.
  • All NinesAll Nines
    edited 2011-08-17 00:51:47
    Has friends besides tanks now
    @INUH: Shit, really? . . .

    @Hatter: You're not helping your case. Well, you weren't before your edit, but I can agree with your basic premise. I just don't think "we used to be worse" is an excuse for having some horrible and regressive cultural standards.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Yep. It's apparently considered extremely rude to plead "not guilty."
  • BobBob
    Actually Eva, I'd say he's arguing his side quite well right now. Besides, it's the least we can ask of our GLORIOUS NIPPONESE overlords.
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    ...you mean it's a country where glaring angrily at people is actually effective at getting them to change their behavior?
  • HatterHatter
    Glaives are better.
    Wait, how did I get to be the pro-Japan side? I'm the biggest westaboo there is!
  • BobBob
    edited 2011-08-17 00:50:10
    [citation needed]
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    ^^Hey, I'm a fan of a lot of aspects of Japan's culture and media, but it'd be pretty hard to convince me to live there.
  • DonZabuDonZabu
    And how did we go from the French to the Japanese?
  • WaltzyWaltzy
    westaboo

    fucking looooool that's an awesome new word
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    ^^The word "lolicon" was in the original title. It was inevitable.
  • HatterHatter
    Glaives are better.
    I'd hate to live in Japan, too. I have the feeling that if I did, every time I turned my back people would make monkey faces at me. 
  • All NinesAll Nines
    Has friends besides tanks now
    "It's apparently considered extremely rude to plead 'not guilty.'"

    Just like it's also considered extremely shameful to tell people about your problems, because keeping your pain bottled up is somehow more honorable than bringing a criminal to justice. -_-

    @Bob: Edited my post.
  • MoeDantesMoeDantes
    no longer cuddly, but still Edmond
    ... I suddenly don't want to move to Japan anymore...

    But I still want to learn Japanese and import as many anime as possible.
  • HatterHatter
    edited 2011-08-17 01:15:53
    Glaives are better.
    thumped
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    edited 2011-08-17 00:56:56
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    ^^Hello, me.

    Though my reasons for learning Japanese are different.
  • DonZabuDonZabu
    edited 2011-08-17 00:55:36
    ^^ Stop that.

    ^^^ Yeah, call us back when you start trying to navigate three different writing systems just to read a newspaper.
  • ForzareForzare
    edited 2011-08-17 00:56:20
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    .
  • All NinesAll Nines
    Has friends besides tanks now
    @MoeDantes: It's okay. I went through that phase too at some point.
  • DarkDecapodianDarkDecapodian
    edited 2011-08-17 00:59:32
    Clean your room little Billy

    ^^^ Especially kanji. Kanji is a goddamn beast of a system.

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