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"Non-explicit sexualization of children isn't that bad! It's not actually child pornography!"

NovaNova
edited 2011-08-17 00:35:02 in General
If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
This begs to differ.
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  • BobBob
    Why does... I... Eww!

    Also, THANK YOU.
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    edited 2011-08-17 00:43:23
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    ...all five of those pictures are somewhere between ridiculously silly (especially the one with the older woman) and disturbing.

    Also, inb4 Bratz.

    That said, I don't know what this article has to do with lolicon.

    Edit: Thread title used to say "lolicon".  See below for more details.
  • HatterHatter
    Glaives are better.
    Inb4 loli derail.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    edited 2011-08-17 00:16:50
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    ...all five of those pictures are somewhere between ridiculously silly (especially the one with the older woman) and disturbing. 
     That said, I don't know what this article has to do with lolicon.
  • BeeBee
    ...

    ಠ_ಠ
  • HatterHatter
    Glaives are better.
    I took one look at the page and went "NOPE."

    Children should not wear makeup. Kids should not be wearing lingerie. 
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    That said, I don't know what this article has to do with lolicon.

    I didn't know how to write 'sexualizing little kids' without making it sound worse than it is.
  • DonZabuDonZabu
    >French
  • BobBob
    Shut up, Don! It's all Japan's fault anyway! >:[
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    edited 2011-08-17 00:23:02
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    ^^^However, the article says nothing relevant to the claim that lolicon isn't so bad because of not being actual little kids.

    I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but the argument you're providing isn't relevant to the claim you're arguing against.

    ^The lolicon boom in Japan is largely in response to a law imposed by America after World War II, oddly enough.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    However, the article says nothing relevant to the claim that lolicon isn't so bad because of not being actual little kids.

    It is making an argument that, just because it doesn't outright sexualize (as in, like, nude images and stuff) little kids, doesn't mean it's acceptable.

    Like I said, it's not really to do with lolicon, I just didn't know how else to phrase it. Gimme a better title and I'll edit it.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    edited 2011-08-17 00:32:52
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Oh. No wonder I was confused. Yeah, that's a fair point.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    I'd say that's definitely sexualizing kids.  They don't have to be nude for that.
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Since when did sexualizing someone necessarily require explicitness or nudity?
  • BobBob
    edited 2011-08-17 00:28:26
    Why not just call it what it is? PAEDOPHILIA

    Also, agreeing with the two comments above me.
  • MoeDantesMoeDantes
    no longer cuddly, but still Edmond
    Could be worse.

    It could be ponicon.
  • DonZabuDonZabu
    >The lolicon boom in Japan is largely in response to a law imposed by America after World War II, oddly enough.

    Which law, the pixellation one?
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    (as in, like, nude images and stuff)

    It's definitely sexualizing it, but I don't know the word for when it's explicit versus non-explicit.
  • SchitzoSchitzo
    They're somethin' else.
    GOD, I-- WHA-- NO!
  • BobBob
    How about explicit sexualization of children vs. non-explicit sexualization of children? Or covert SoC vs. overt SoC?
  • All NinesAll Nines
    edited 2011-08-17 00:33:47
    Has friends besides tanks now
    . . . What in the--

    >it doesn't outright sexualize
    >adult lingierie for children

    Except it kinda does.

    And yeah, you definitely used "lolicon" when you meant "sexualization of little kids that isn't explicitly pornographic". This is one of those things that hurts children with its mere existence.

    Ninja'd a whole lot.

    "Why not just call it what it is? PAEDOPHILIA"

    Agreed.
  • HatterHatter
    Glaives are better.
    How about "eroticize?" No such word, I know, but it conveys the implication of sexuality.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    edited 2011-08-17 00:33:50
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Which law, the pixellation one?
    A ban on the depiction of pubic hair led to a sudden demand for...well, porn that didn't contain pubic hair.
  • HatterHatter
    Glaives are better.
    IT'S CALLED A RAZOR

    ARGH

    DAMMIT JAPAN YOU WERE DOING SO WELL
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Except it kinda does.

    I specified what I meant in the very next section of words...

    How about explicit sexualization of children vs. non-explicit sexualization of children? Or covert SoC vs. overt SoC?

    Kinda... wordy, but it works, I guess. I'll go edit it then.
  • BobBob
    A ban on the depiction of pubic hair led to a sudden demand for...well, porn that didn't contain pubic hair.

    Wait, how the hell does lacking in pubic hair = severely underage?

    Dammit, Japan. I hate you more everyday.

    No I don't actually hate Japan, shut up you damn weeaboos.
  • All NinesAll Nines
    Has friends besides tanks now
    @Cygan: No, it looked like you were saying children's lingerie doesn't count as sexualizing them, and I was merely saying that that's not true.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    Well, little kids definitely don't have any pubic hair.
  • glennmagusharveyglennmagusharvey
    edited 2011-08-17 00:36:53
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    ^^^ OMFG Y U H8 TAPPAN?
  • DonZabuDonZabu
    Yeah, apparently in Japan, shaving pubes = prostitute. Not that that excuses anything.
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