Police brutality

AXavierB · 2011-07-20 18:44:09

I sincerely hope there's more to this story. Because if not, I am fucking angry.

And I don't normally pull the race card on things like this but from the sound of the article...

The stupid comments on the video don't help, either.

All Nines · 2011-07-20 19:16:53

While I try to remain unaffected by the news, it's a bit harder when I'm stupid enough to click the video that shows a man bleeding to death.

Even if I weren't emotionally affected by this, it's pretty outrageous, going by what evidence there is so far.

ClockworkUniverse · 2011-07-20 19:19:53

Yeah, unless something huge comes out, like on the scale of this guy having been a serial killer who the police were talking to just as a premise to get near him, this is pretty awful.

Counterclock · 2011-07-20 19:25:06

^ Even then INUH, what they did was pretty awful.

If they knew he was a serial killer, they should've just arrested him.

This is inhumane anyway you want to spin it.

ClockworkUniverse · 2011-07-20 19:26:36

Yeah...but their actions under that hypothetical circumstance could be described in terms other than "apparently, they were just feeling homicidal today."

ninjaclown · 2011-07-20 19:27:38

There's only one thing needed to answer whether this was justified or not, and it's the one question NO ONE is answering clearly - was he firing at police?

ClockworkUniverse · 2011-07-20 19:29:53

^Nope. He didn't have a weapon and was running away.

Waltzy · 2011-07-20 19:33:10

Holy hell.

Even if the police are justified in shooting someone, they're supposed to immediately administer treatment, not stand and watch them bleed out.

This makes me sick.

Counterclock · 2011-07-20 19:33:11

@INUH: Brutality is brutality, even the worst of people should be protected from brutality.

ClockworkUniverse · 2011-07-20 19:47:12

^Umm...perhaps you're interpreting what I said. I meant that as-is, the police involved seem to have just been in the mood to kill someone. I really don't want to think that's the case.

ninjaclown · 2011-07-20 19:47:26

Some say no, police says yes, news says maybe, I hate it when the story gets garbled.

AXavierB · 2011-07-20 20:15:48

The article suggests he was killed over two dollars. I'm seriously hoping he had a gun or something so I can not feel like the police are just employed thugs.

Hatter · 2011-07-20 20:46:52

Unauthorized use of deadly force. If he ran, they should have used nonlethal (I use the term relatively loosely, considering that even tasers can kill) means to drop him, unless he aimed a weapon at them.

I think that the cops ID'ed the deceased as a fugitive - maybe incorrectly - then got excited when he ran and did something stupid. For now, we need to assume unproven innocence in both the police and the deceased, and reserve judgment until a formal investigation turns something up.

Nyktos · 2011-07-20 21:04:19

Dude.

You're defending people who shot and killed someone in cold blood.

Hatter · 2011-07-20 21:05:34

I don't think their blood was particularly cold when they did it.

Nyktos · 2011-07-20 21:06:41

When they shot? Maybe not.

When they stood there watching him die and threatening to shoot anyone who helped him? Yeah, that's cold-blooded.

Hatter · 2011-07-20 21:11:57

If they called for EMTs, then I think they kept with police procedure. Keeping people back was necessary to contain the situation and prevent the possible destruction of evidence - although I question whether it was necessary to threaten curious bystanders with physical harm. And I don't think that your average cop is trained as a medic, so legally they couldn't have helped even if they wanted to risk injury by getting into contact with the suspect, who they seem to believe was armed and dangerous.

Did they make the wrong decision by shooting the guy? Definitely. Unless he had a gun out, they had no right to use deadly force. But everything after that seems to be fairly standard procedure.

Chagen · 2011-07-20 21:53:29

So, basically they shot him because he was one of those "ebul brown people".

How did such racist fuckwits get a job in the first place?

FrodoGoofballCoTV · 2011-07-20 22:00:16

Part of me thinks that the appropriate punishment for these officers would be death by firing squad (sorry for the morbid humor, I can't help myself). The rest of me wonders whether the article is (1) factually correct and (2) biased and thus must be taken with a grain of salt.

I don't think that your average cop is trained as a medic, so legally they couldn't have helped

This is why I think modern society sucks.

Counterclock · 2011-07-20 22:03:03

^Death by firing squad?

That's horrible.

TheConductor · 2011-07-20 22:03:58

^^^ Because you're not allowed to hire or not hire people based on their beliefs.

Y'know, about a year back, over here. A police officer in riot gear, struck at a mans leg and made him fall to the ground. He did this for no damn reason. Any way, the man ended up having a stress induced heart attack, and he died. The officer has since lost job.

Chagen · 2011-07-20 22:05:40

"Because you're not allowed to hire or not hire people based on their beliefs."

Because hiring a cop that's going to shoot a non-white person for the "crime" of being not white is a good idea, amirite?

TheConductor · 2011-07-20 22:09:17

Except that isn't what happened is it? And it's not like they're gonna sit in the interview and say "Well I'm a hard worker, a team player, I hate darkies, I play tennis and I'm a family man...really hate those darkies" is he?

'Tho, I will say, those guys should get the sack for being quite shit at their jobs.

Chagen · 2011-07-20 22:11:55

The police first made a big stink over a $2 charge (racial profiling) and then shot the man.

I have a feeling they shot him not because he ran, but because he was simply black, ergo, he must be a criminal.

TheConductor · 2011-07-20 22:16:40

Again, bro, you're reading too much into this. For all we know, the officers KNEW the guy and had some form of beef with him and use their positions of authority to kill him. I'm not saying that's a good thing, I just don't believe that everything that happens to a black guy is going to be racism.

(Not to mention, we've only seen one (clearly biased) side to this story).

Chagen · 2011-07-20 22:24:21

Still, from what it seems, those cops certainly would've let a member of Das Herrenvolk by without trouble.

Hatter · 2011-07-20 22:27:28

Can't a cop shoot a man without worrying that they have different colors of skin? ;_;

TheConductor · 2011-07-20 22:28:57

Okay two things:

1) Why use the German phrase? It means I had to Google it and that was annoying.

2) There is absolutely no indication that they were into the idea of the "Master Race", as the article indicates they threatened the crowd with guns too. Presumably the crowd had whites in it.

It seems to me, you're actively looking for reasons to be offended.

Hatter · 2011-07-20 22:29:43

Thump.

Chagen · 2011-07-20 22:32:25

I'm offended because I'm half-black myself.

Hatter · 2011-07-20 22:35:19

And that leads you to believe that the cops were guilty of a racially motivated murder?

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