I'm really scared that my country is starting to gravitate towards Fascism

Tnu1138

When and if fascism comes to America it will not be labeled "made in Germany"; it will not be marked with a swastika; it will not even be called fascism; it will be called, of course, "Americanism." ~ Halford E. Luccock

This notion is starting to scare the crap out of me and I honestly think aspects of it are starting to coem from both sides of the spectrum.  This genuinely worries me and i'm not sure if it's unfounded or not.

Gelzo

Mod edit: Quit it.

Tnu1138

Thumped for being a personal attack.

DonZabu

We're nowhere near the crippling poverty and inflation it takes for actual dictatorships to crop up.

Gelzo

Can't we keep this sort of thing to one thread?

Nyktos

But fascism comes from Italy...

Tnu1138

Yeah the guy was referring to National Socialism which is a closely related but mildly different id3ology.

GLORIOUSLeader

We are not anywhere close to a police state. 

RedEyedAbyss

I think you're missing the point of that quote. It's not about the future, but about American nationalism now.

Tnu1138

hell that scares me even more I't sbecoming really noticable  and Nationalism scares the shit out of me.

GLORIOUSLeader

Then move to New Zealand. 

Tnu1138

What systems and ideologies are prevalent there?

GLORIOUSLeader

Anti-whatever you hate. They also have kiwis. 

Tnu1138

What do you mean by Anti-Whatever you hate? that's pretty vague is you used in the specific/narrow sense or in the broad/vague sense?

GLORIOUSLeader

I'm not sure, but I think it's a slightly more conservative version of Australia. 

Tnu1138

Austrailia is pretty fucking conservative with their censorship. Not as bad as Germany but worse then the US.

GLORIOUSLeader

I do know for a fact that New Zealand has very little censorship. Probably around Netherlands levels. 

Tnu1138

I hear good things about Nederland if it weren't for the centralized economey and taxes i'd consider living there.

CommandoDude

Fascism? That's where the government controls corporations.

The exact opposite is happening in America.

ninjaclown

If anything, the government has too little power. And it's dwindling...

Chagen

Okay, fuck this.

I hear Conservatives say that Obama is giving the government too much power. I hear Liberals say that the government has too little.

WHAT THE FUCK PEOPLE

MAKE. UP. YOUR. MINDS.

Vorpy

Wrong. Conservatives say the Government has too little, and the Liberals say they have too much.

Tnu1138

So big government that controlls eveyrthing is good? What am I missing here? Are you advocating authoritarianism/statism ninja?

Vorpy

Yes it is.

Tnu1138

Explain Vorpy.

Vorpy

Because "everything" is a very bad generalization when it comes to defining a government's influence.

Tnu1138

I mean gov ernment c0ntrolls aspects of every little thing. rationing out resources by the threat of force, controlling our social and personal behaviors. adopting militaristic policies, restricting mutual voluntary interactions because "they" deam it nessecary. I've pretty much stopped trusting any sort of authority or orginization. There is no such thing as a benevolent state. So it is best to limit the functions and role of the state. Ideally to abolish it. To reject all authority whether it be of the state, of the elite, of the majority, whatever it may be authority comes from the will of a collective and it must be rejected.

Tnu1138

At any rate i'd sooner suffer a Fate Worse Then Death then I would concede to sucking on government cock.

CommandoDude

Move to Somalia then.

Tnu1138

don't fucking pull that card.

Tnu1138

Honestly i'm getting rteally scared that you are right that the only way to acheive good is through big oppresive government and that minarchism and anarchism are some kinds of great evil.