NSFW: This sexist piece of crap...

Nova

I didn't actually see that, AHR... It must have done that thing where it skips over the last post in a page again.

You can differentiate between fact and fiction, Chagen. Good for you.

But the fact is, that's not what is the matter here.

Ask around, Chagen. Media influences people. Not the news- media in general affects people and their views.

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Why the hell are you trying to stop the heart attack

Anyway i'll leave this here:

http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2009/10/rape-culture-101.html

AHR

BH: Fair enough. I exaggerated, due to focusing too much on the following point.

Chagen

Vorpy: Do you really think I'm going to rape a kid because I jerk it to lolicon? Really?

I have the moral integrity not to do something like that. Most sane people do.

"all for nude pictures of kiddie porn "

What the fuck? I don't want to view CP. That's real children, not fictional ones.

Nova

Essentially this:

It's not even the rape. It's the motivations, it's the sexist attitude, the story is named after a sexist term.

BlackHumor

Yes, and I've had sexual fantasies that were outright sexist and yet I am not myself sexist.

Not to mention, again, this story is the most sympathetic to the victim of any story I've ever seen.

AHR

Ehhh. But that's like saying Huckleberry Finn is racist because Jim is referred to as nigger, and Huck acts prejudiced towards him. 

Especially in a story like this, where it is treated completely negatively.

Nova

Thank you for that link, Edmania. That's what I was thinking of. I could not remember the term.

BlackHumor

I happen to be perfectly aware of rape culture and this isn't it.

YET AGAIN, the rape is portrayed so negatively it interferes with the porn bits.

: Yeah, also good to point out that Shakesville is kind of old style feminism, and when I say old style I mean crazy.

They're not as bad as allecto or Biting Beaver, but I still wouldn't say they're reasonable people over there.

Never mind, I apparently was badly mentally exaggerating how bad Shakesville was.

AHR

Rape culture is encouraging male sexual aggression. Rape culture is regarding violence as sexy and sexuality as violent. Rape culture is treating rape as a compliment, a

...and they've lost me. In terms of them being related to this fic, I mean.

BH: For some. I personally like negativity. I hate positive portrayals. It just ruins the impact for me. Butttt, I digress.

Vorpy

Vorpy: Do you really think I'm going to rape a kid because I jerk it to lolicon? Really?

Yes I do Chagen. You are overreacting to it in a very psychotic and scary manner.

Chagen

Cygan: Reading Ed's link, I do not fit that at all. I don't find violence that sexy and I certainly do not find violence against women or men sexy.

Hell, if anything, most of my fantasies are defines by being bubbly and sweet. And possibly Moe, depending on your definition of the term.

Nova

And yet, strangely enough, people (or perhaps just Chagen) in this thread are talking about how they're getting off to it.

The main character of the story, the proxy for the reader, did not see it as negative.

Nova

I've lost my point somewhere.

I can't remember what I'm arguing about now, so I have to bow out.

Vorpy

Also Feedcast is a way for companies to stream news via search engine marketing campaigns like Google and Yahoo.

BlackHumor

Well, ruined the porn value for me, at least.

And I think if you see the main character as a proxy for a reader that's where you're going wrong. The VICTIM is supposed to be the proxy if there's even supposed to be any.

EDIT: THANK YOU!!!... wait, you mean it really was the first Google result? What was all that about adding the story to Feedcast then?

Chagen

"Yes I do Chagen. You are overreacting to it in a very psychotic and scary manner."

Vorpy.

I am capable of knowing that I am harming someone. I find it hard to insult people. I am extremely docile in real life. I know that I would fuck that kid up for a long time. I know that I would go to jail. And that I would go to hell for such a transgression.

I am nearly incapable of defending myself, what the hell makes you think I have the lack of sanity to rape a kid?

snowfoxofdeath

I think I figured out the meaning of that dream you were talking about, Chagen.

It's telling you that you need to stop overreacting before you really do beat the shit out of some random person.

/repeating what other people probably said already

Chagen

"And yet, strangely enough, people (or perhaps just Chagen) in this thread are talking about how they're getting off to it."

Okay. What the fuck.

I never got off on the story in the first place. The presence of rape is a turn-off to me.

Nova

Cygan: Oh for FUCKS SAKE

IT'S PORN

Yes, we know that Rape is horrible in real life.

This is not real life.

This is fiction.

Just let me jerk off in peace

Cygan: And why not? Don't pull that "it enforces that rape is okay" bullshit. That's been disproven so fucking much it's fucking hilarious. 

Stop trying to dictate what I do with MYFUCKING PENIS. 

It's mine, and as long as no one is harmed, I can do whatever the FUCK I want with it.

This is the impression you gave.

Chagen

I was defending porn in general. I was rebuking your specific statements.

Nova

I was not condemning porn in general, though. Just rape-porn.

Vorpy

Vorpy.

I am capable of knowing that I am harming someone. I find
it hard to insult people. I am extremely docile in real life. I know
that I would fuck that kid up for a long time. I know that I would go to
jail. And that I would go to hell for such a transgression.

I am nearly incapable of defending myself, what the hell makes you think I have the lack of sanity to rape a kid?

Watching rape hentai is a good way to desensitize yourself to the human qualities of your victims, and think of them as anime characters that aren't real.

You are not the weakest person on earth chagen, and how obviously distorted your self references are is getting questionable. You never admit anything wrong with yourself, you never learn from your mistakes, but evolve into a more inhuman disconnected being every time a personal issue arises with you. You are very inwardly driven and hostile to anything you don't understand, and are able to shake off the anger, distress and shock that you rise out of people with how sharp your tongue is, which makes me think that it's unfortunately good practice to train you to ignore that when the time comes along.

Chagen

Cygan:....Then you should have specified that.

I don't like Rape-Porn either.

Though, according to your statements in my literotica thread, most of my fantasies are rape.

IanExMachina

Hypothetical:

What about rape porn that is consumed by people who have a fetish to be 'raped' themselves?

snowbull

Wouldn't that be the original story?

Nova

I was talking about rape the whole thread...

Radd

@Vorpy

You seem not to be addressing the topic. You're just insulting Chagen.

Radd

@Vorpy

You seem not to be addressing the topic. You're just insulting Chagen.

Radd

Sorry, tried posting on a DSi and it acted all weird for me, won't do that again.