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"If your not proud to see this and enjoy this. Then your not British."

IanExMachinaIanExMachina
edited 2011-04-29 08:28:26 in General
I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
(Regarding the Royal Wedding)
Fuck off, with your stupid blind pride and your failure to differentiate between your and you're.

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  • SaigyoujiSaigyouji
    But you never had any to begin with.
    ...I have no nationality now? Now what do I do?!
  • IanExMachinaIanExMachina
    edited 2011-04-29 08:36:25
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    Well judging by the next comment from where I got that first one, we have no opinions worth holding either so I guess we become mindless drones...

  • TheConductorTheConductor
    I agree with you Ian. But then, I'm not even consider myself British at ALL (Scottish Nationalist) so...
  • KhwarizmiKhwarizmi
    Because you never know what you might see.
    Lolwut?

    At the end of the day, it's a wedding.  That's all.

    Nationality is not determined by patriotism or subjective enjoyment of a televised ceremony.
  • IanExMachinaIanExMachina
    edited 2011-04-29 08:56:45
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    I'd quite like to have some kind of law in place that says:

    "If you supported the royal wedding you can't complain about lack of government spending in your area for ."

    Mainly due to the costs of the Royal Wedding.

    Edit:

    I also dislike suddenly everyone instantly trying to becoming the most patriotic person they can be for one day and then just forgetting it later. Be consistent.
  • TheMightyAnonymTheMightyAnonym
    edited 2011-04-29 09:08:08
    ~♥YES♥~! I *AM* a ~♥cupcake♥~! ^_^
    B-b--but! Princesses! Isn't that reason enough to get excited?
  • KhwarizmiKhwarizmi
    edited 2011-04-29 09:08:51
    Because you never know what you might see.
    ^^ I'm not complaining about that.  I was given champagne and sandwiches.

    ^ It should be, shouldn't it?  I think Ian and me are desensitised.
  • IanExMachinaIanExMachina
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    ^ Haha no but I do know some people who have been complaining and will complain again about cuts and spending, so maybe a very specific law targetting people I know. That way you can have your champwidges without hassle.

    Also yeah, we've had princesses for like forever. 
  • MousaThe14MousaThe14
    edited 2011-04-29 09:20:51
    Writer, Artist, Obscure.
    Are you sure it's not "Not English" because I'm not sure why the Welsh, The Scots, The North Irish, and the rest would care.
  • IanExMachinaIanExMachina
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    Nope the title is a quote hence the your/you're failing.
  • PonicalicaPonicalica
    (void)
    Technically, Northern Ireland isn't part of Britain.
  • IanExMachinaIanExMachina
    edited 2011-04-29 09:28:12
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    Also #proudtobebritish is trending worldwide, there are a lot of people using it who aren't british, I wonder if they know what it means?
  • MousaThe14MousaThe14
    Writer, Artist, Obscure.
    I see....So just some fool who doesn't acknowledge the difference or thinks all of Britain should care. Interesting.

    ^ They probably don't.
  • RottweilerRottweiler
    Inside, too dark to read
    ^^ Would people abroad being "proud to be English" annoy you?

    It is our mother tongue.
  • IanExMachinaIanExMachina
    edited 2011-04-29 09:43:54
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    ^ #proudtospeakenglish would be closer to what you mean, as English is common term for people from England.

    Edit:

    Interestingly there are some american tweeters who have taken offence to British patriotism.

  • RottweilerRottweiler
    Inside, too dark to read
    ^ There's a difference between your mother tongue/culture and speaking English as a second language.

    Does it annoy you that Latinos call us Anglos?
  • KhwarizmiKhwarizmi
    edited 2011-04-29 09:46:40
    Because you never know what you might see.
    Rottweiler, if you want to be English, I'll call you English, but if so I hope never to hear you criticise other people for identifying as things they appear not to be.

    >Interestingly there are some american tweeters who have taken offence to British patriotism.

    Interestingly?
  • IanExMachinaIanExMachina
    edited 2011-04-29 09:49:10
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    I'm sorry I don't get what you are getting at with that first sentence?

    No not really.

    Basically the terms are being used in a certain way:

    British = From Britain
    English = From England
    American= From America(Usually USA rather than any other meaning).

    No real reference to spoken language in english, but for other languages it is different but that's their language so not fussed.

    Edit:
    ^
    Interestingly, as America seems more tolerant of lots of patriotism.
  • RottweilerRottweiler
    edited 2011-04-29 09:49:38
    Inside, too dark to read
    @Bobby: It's not a question of "want". It's a question of what ethnicity actually is.

    And if you say "American", how does that not imply culture has "nothing outside the state"?

    @Ian: I'm sorry I don't get what you are getting at with that first sentence?

    I'm getting at ethnicity.
  • KhwarizmiKhwarizmi
    Because you never know what you might see.
    @ Rott: Forgive me if I'm misremembering, but aren't you German American?

    @ Ian: Yeah, but that's American patriotism.  Different culture.
  • IanExMachinaIanExMachina
    edited 2011-04-29 09:56:34
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    Ah ok.

    Well I gave my basic outline in my other post, but I'd include people who became british citizens through migration/gaining the right to live in the UK. Unless they'd rather claim to be from their country of origin and still live in the UK. As then they'd be Whatevercountryoforiginish.

    Also failure tweets by someone not quite grasping Uk slang by proving her 'britishness' by using the word bullocks in a sentence. 

    I suppose but the ideal of patriotism if held I'd at least expect would mean recognising the same concept in others. But then again I don't know so *shrug*. 
  • TheConductorTheConductor
    @Pon: Erm...yes it is.
  • PonicalicaPonicalica
    (void)
    Isn't it on the island of Ireland and not the island of Britain?

    Also: 
  • KhwarizmiKhwarizmi
    Because you never know what you might see.
    Northern Ireland is in Britain in the same sense that Hawaii is in America.
  • RottweilerRottweiler
    edited 2011-04-29 10:04:15
    Inside, too dark to read
    @Bobby: My grandparents lost the language after World War I, when government and business enacted punitive measures for speaking German rather than English.

    The idea of the "melting pot" was that immigrants were all right, because they'd end up melting into the body of native English speakers. It worked, so what's our ethnicity?

    @Ian: Well I gave my basic outline in my other post, but I'd include people who became british citizens

    Is there "nothing outside the state" as far as identity?
  • KhwarizmiKhwarizmi
    edited 2011-04-29 10:06:24
    Because you never know what you might see.
    I think American culture is sufficiently different to be considered no longer English.

    I mean, I wouldn't call an English-speaking Welsh person "English".  That would be horrendously rude and factually incorrect.
  • IanExMachinaIanExMachina
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    Well if you were a British citizen and moved and didn't decide to call yourself the term for your new place, then you'd still be British.

    @Poni are those castrated male bovines? If not still wrong. :D
  • RottweilerRottweiler
    edited 2011-04-29 10:18:35
    Inside, too dark to read
    @Bobby: I think American culture is sufficiently different to be considered no longer English.

    Are Latinos objectively wrong for using the term Anglos?

    I think the fact we're communicate without one of us learning a second language shows our cultures are closer to each other than either is to even another Western culture. Do you think instead that there's "nothing outside the state", that one's culture is whatever their state is?
  • KhwarizmiKhwarizmi
    Because you never know what you might see.
    No, I don't think that, and I think that American culture is certainly related to English culture, but America is founded on different values from England.
  • RottweilerRottweiler
    Inside, too dark to read
    @Bobby: You're referring to how England is a nation state while America is a "propositional" state, founded as a City on a Hill for huddled masses anywhere in the world who yearn to live by its liberal values (and we'll make room for you by expelling illiberal Indians)?
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