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GMH plays Pokémon Perfect Crystal: the Quest for the Full Pokédex



  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    I grabbed two things that might be it but I'm not sure about either and at where I presently am in my meatspace life I'm not sure whether I should pull the trigger on starting this at the moment. I might, but I think I kinda wanna finish up a few other things first.
  • edited 2018-10-24 07:55:00
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    So instead of messing with either of those, I just sat on them while I was finally able to get onto the Discord for the Crystal Clear hack.

    In this hack, there are a number of changes to the vanilla game that go beyond opening up the world and allowing capturing all 251 and various quality-of-life improvements -- no changes to the species themselves and moves available, but some changes to the endgame trainers (replacing them with the main dev's self-insert and various people who helped him with it), and the music, as well as a number of smaller features (e.g. NPC event lines). Specifically, I won't be able to use the names Yunica and Kishgal anymore, specifically because there won't be a rival anymore, far as I can tell.

    I won't be restarting this liveblog anytime soon yet, but at this point I'm debating (albeit on the back-burner) which of the following to do:
    * just go straight into Crystal Clear.
    * play a more conservative 251 hack, such as Emu Edition or Perfect Crystal (which is a 251 hack and restores Cerulean Cave but I can't see anything about it restoring Safari Zone or Viridian Forest).
    * play through vanilla Crystal first only to beating the game then go to Crystal Clear.
    * wait for Crystal Clear to be definitively finished and see what else it does.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Come to think of it, the way I'm planning to play Pokémon Crystal, it'll mean that every no-evolution mon is basically a trophy mon. Because I'll be prioritizing leveling up and evolving everything else.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human

    Oh hey, there's a 2020 update to Pokémon Perfect Crystal
  • There is love everywhere, I already know
    the way I'm planning to play Pokémon Crystal,

    In 2027?
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Seems like Cerulean Cave might not be in Emu Edition while Safari Zone might not be in Perfect Crystal. argh...

    No mention of Viridian Forest restoration either way.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Perfect Crystal now has a 2020 edit.


    Furthermore, someone created Patched Crystal, which is yet another different thing.

    This one has infinite-use TMs.
  • edited 2021-02-18 08:22:48
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Okay, so let me try to summarize what's in each hack, aside from just having all 251 (including restoring the GS Ball event).

    Emu Edition - apparently the most vanilla; just puts the missing mons back in. Semi-restores Safari Zone. There are some in-game trades that will get you the legendaries (which seems a bit odd but I guess they're basically like trophies which can also become easy-mode crutches, but not like I'm gonna use them anyway since I'll be too busy grinding out evolutions)

    Patched Crystal - fixes various bugs, tweaks time system, infinite use TMs, changes Dark to physical and Ghost to special, gymleaders rematchable

    Perfect Crystal - fixes various bugs, Mystery Gift/unobtainable decoration items now available, reusable TMs, final boss now level 100, increased opponent levels to match HGSS, gymleaders rematchable, restores Cerulean Cave, adjustable time.

    Perfect Crystal (2020) - same as above, except makes some ridiculously low encounter rates less low, final boss reverted to vanilla.

    Crystal Clear - open-world edit of Crystal, gymleaders refightable with scaling levels, and and IIRC there were a variety of other changes.

    TPP Anniversary Crystal - fixes bugs, new Kanto quests, physical/special split, fairy type, move re-learner. optional advanced AI.
  • edited 2021-05-04 18:02:29
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    I think I'm leaning toward playing Perfect Crystal (2020)...or possibly Patched Crystal.

    In contrast to Emu Edition, it restores Cerulean Cave rather than Safari Zone, it seems. I've actually been to Safari Zone in RBY and while it's interesting I can't say it's particularly fun. OTOH I've actually never been in Cerulean Cave before.

    There's another hack I didn't mention called Polished Crystal, which does restore Safari Zone, Viridian Forest, Pewter Museum, and other locations, but it also changes...a lot of other things. It does update game mechanics to Gen VI apparently, which could be nice (making Lick do more than piddly damage is definitely appreciated), but I'm not sure if I need that.


    TPP Anniversary Crystal has too much extra stuff and feels irrelevant to me. Crystal Clear isn't just open-world but also gets rid of the rival, which is a feature I want.

    Patched Crystal does a better job documenting its bugfixes in the readme than Perfect Crystal, and it's more vanilla than Perfect. It does swap special/physical associations for Dark and Ghost, which feels welcome. But it doesn't restore any areas. It also tweaks the time system, to make morning less stuck in the actual morning, but I don't know how I feel about that. I was going to use it as an excuse to get up earlier lol. Also there's no convenient time change function.

    So in summary, for Patched vs. Perfect 2020:

    * more vanilla
    * adjusted time system
    * swap special/physical for Dark and Ghost
    * GS Ball event just works; no other note attached. Presumably this works immediately when available, basically like in Emu Edition, where I ended up .

    Perfect 2020:
    * restored Cerulean Cave
    * convenient clock setting mechanism
    * (most?) decorations/Mystery Gift items now available in the regular game
    * hold B to run
    * restored previously-censored sprites (n.b. I don't care about this)
    * GS Ball event only after Mt. Silver
    * level increases for trainers to match HeartGold/SoulSilver. generally applies to late Johto/Kanto

    * bugfixes
    * reusable TMs
    * refightable gymleaders
    * all 251 mons catchable (and many are in similar places too)
    * Kanto legendaries -- . Differs from Emu Edition in that that just .

    I need to decide two things:
    * which hack to play
    * whether to play it on my computer or on my phone. If I play it on my phone, it's more like a genuine Pokémon experience, on-the-go and playable anytime, but also means I can't as easily share screenshots with you.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human

    That space in the middle was Totodile, in case you're unfamiliar.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    I'm gonna rename this thread because I'm no longer playing Crystal Emu Edition, but I'm playing Perfect Crystal now.


    caught: Totodile
    seen: Pidgey, Sentret, Hoppip, Caterpie, Weedle, Chikorita, Geodude
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    also I heard this on the radio:

    murkrow 38
    gilgar 45
    magnemite 39
    jigglypuff 35
    sentret 29
    hoppip 32
    vulpix 36
    weedle 31
    geodude 46
    caterpie 30
    miltank 39
    meowth 39
    growlithe 35
    poliwhirl 44
    weepinbell 44
    donphan 45
  • edited 2021-06-18 21:41:15
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Caught Rattata, Spearow, and Geodude.

    And I have good news and bad news.

    The bad news is that Lemuroid doesn't seem to manage the game's Real Time Clock properly.

    The good news is that Pokémon Perfect Crystal doesn't require inputting the password to reset the time.

    But I might want a better emulator.

    Meanwhile I should also dig up my physical copy of Crystal just so I can read the original game manual. There's something satisfying about the physicality of it, even if I'm not playing the actual game cartridge.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    And here we have our first confirmation that this isn't just regular Crystal.


    That thing on the top right is a cyndaquil, one of the starter pokémon. Normally, the other starters can't be caught in the wild and you have to trade with another player/game to get their pokédex entries.

    It also has an obnoxiously low catch rate, meaning that it is way harder to capture than anything else up to this point in the regular game. I must have thrown like twenty pokéballs at it, counting savestate scumming.

    Anyway, I'm up to 17 caught, 18 seen (Kishgal has a chikorita which I have yet to find wild).
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human


    Nothing like beating Joey with a better rattata than his.
  • *raises hand*
    also I heard this on the radio:
    What do the numbers next to those 'mon names mean?
    Also, this was on my draft, I'm pretty sure it's a breakdown on teams during my first runs through each game (including the Touhou hack), and something about Magnitude that probably made sense at the time:
    Yeh, Magnitude is very good for the levels you usually get it.




    Some HM slave.

    Lily White
    Lily Black
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    > What do the numbers next to those 'mon names mean?

    Professor Oak's Pokémon Talk is a radio show wherein Prof. Oak and DJ Mary talk about various pokémon, one species at a time, with Oak indicating where it can be found and DJ Mary making some comment about it (which is actually a randomly-generated combination of descriptions).
  • edited 2021-06-19 17:49:32
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Here's a listing of everything I've logged in my Pokédex, in order (I think):

    Totodile (starter)
    Cyndaquil (actually my second starter when I started emulating one of the gen 2 games years ago, I think it was Crystal but it may have been Gold)
    Dunsparce (a pokémon I've actually encountered for the first time in-game in my life, i.e. this isn't retreading Pokédex entries I've had before)

    Chikorita (actually my very first starter when I started playing Gold version on cart even more years ago)

    This makes me feel like when I pull out my carts I shouldn't just pull out Crystal but both Crystal and Gold, just so I can see how the two manuals differ.

    Anyhow, as for the real-time clock problem, what I've started doing is that I just end up re-setting the clock every time I play.

    There is a minor perk that results from this, which is that every time I reset the clock the fruit trees reset, which means I have a bunch of berries.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    also i think my selection of pokémon is oddly biased male, simply by chance

    i didn't look at the gender of each mon before catching it; i typically just caught the first one i could find

    though i do have the even more amusing thing where my geodude is female
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    ok so

    I have been having a different problem now

    so the past couple times I played, I just did some running around, level grinding

    the first time, i didn't save

    the second tine i am pretty sure I did

    both times, when I came back to my phone hours later my progress was gone and I had to start from a previous point where I'd left off

    I think I need to back up the srm here asap; this emulator is weird
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    hey wait, the srm was updated more recently

    why isn't it reading properly?
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    The Crystal and Gold manuals are very similar, unsurprisingly.

    And they're less awesome than the manual for Blue. Its was designed to imitate the look of a leather-bound notebook, and it also had a pokédex section that you could fill out. It has a type advantage chart; the Crystal/Gold manuals lack even this!
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Chikorita get! (Haven't found a wild Totodile yet but it seems to be in a place further than how far I've gotten.)
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    > use level 4 weedle against level 5 bellsprout
    > bellsprout only knows Vine Whip which is not very effective against Weedle
    > Weedle has enough HP to survive because Vine Whip just does 1 damage every turn
    > beautiful big bag of XP for my level 4 weedle

    > gen 2 stars counting PP for enemies
    > Vine Whip has only 10 PP
    > bellsprout runs out of PP
    > bellsprout used STRUGGLE


    > oops
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human

    My first pokédex entry via evolution.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human

    Also the first instance of a pokémon that flees.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    20th catch: Chikorita
    21st entry (no catch): Kakuna
    22nd catch: Unown B
    23rd catch: Unown F

    seen: Unown E, Unown C, Unown D, Unown I, Unown G, Unown H
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    I don't have enough money for pokéballs at this point (I would, barely, had I not wasted two balls on unsuccessful attempts at capturing Cyndaquil...and that was with savestates!), and my first box is also filling up, which means I need to start sorting things into proper boxes.

    There are 14 boxes, each of which can hold 20 pokémon. I think I'm at 17/20 on one box or so.

    I forgot how I did it last time.

    IIRC it was done something like this: box 1 for stuff to just pile in there on capture, then one box for each of the following:

    * two-stage evolutions
    * three-stage evolutions
    * two-stage stone evolutions
    * three-stage stone evolutions
    * Unown A-T
    * Unown U-Z
    * shinies
    * completed evolutionary chains (multiple boxes)
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