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  • There is love everywhere, I already know
    Well, RESTART refuses to allow the isekai to become an escape in any way. In fact, everybody would love to escape from the isekai.

    I didn't watch the video, but I'm going on what I know about isekai stories.

    It is really weird how isekai stories tend to not have female MCs, considering one of the most tried and tested forms of story is "girl finds secret door/hole or whatever to magic land and experiences all the magic things."
  • edited 2017-11-05 09:09:02
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    It is really weird how isekai stories tend to not have female MCs, considering one of the most tried and tested forms of story is "girl finds secret door/hole or whatever to magic land and experiences all the magic things."

    I don't really see how this premise is gender-specific, but this particular version of it seems to be something that's more directly inspired by Alice in Wonderland, which seems to be a different lineage of isekai than the one that's currently prominent in animu.

    The video does mention Magic Knight Rayearth as a vague predecessor that didn't really kick off the isekai genre as it's currently recognized, and groups it in with those earlier shows, e.g. Inuyasha and others.

    I'd argue it's actually more similar to the modern-day isekai genre. Heck, Fuu (one of the three main characters) literally remarks that the fantasy world they're transported to is similar to that of an RPG, and similarity to a typical (J)RPG fantasy world is one of the hallmarks of recent isekai, according to that video's claims (to the point where recent series that are simply about JRPG-style worlds get painted with a similar brush).

    The piece that M.K.Rayearth is "missing" is a male audience-insert protagonist.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    As a sidenote, I'm curious how big of a thing VR Troopers was. While not quite isekai in the sense of being trapped in an alternate reality, it does have the characters moving between the real world and the "virtual world" on a regular basis, and in fact it does have story content based on exactly the premise of being trapped in the virtual world.

    In fact, I have, or at least used to have if I can't find it anymore, what is basically a VR Troopers light novel titled "Captive in the Virtual World". The term for this appears to be "chapter book", but I can't see any substantial distinction between the chapter book and light novel formats, aside from country of origin and perhaps content (and target audience). (Said book was one of four different VR Troopers chapter books.)

    I know the show was cut together from like three different tokusatsu shows, so whatever effects it may have had in the west would be very different from the impacts of its sources in Japan. But the confluence of these elements is probably just a coincidence in this case, considering that it's unlikely this western show would have had much impact on a trend amongst Japanese authors, especially given that the media trends usually flow from Japan to the west when it comes to these sorts of things.
  • edited 2017-11-05 11:03:32
    VR Troopers doesn't seem like it had much impact anywhere in the world. Like most of the various 90s things that happened because Power Rangers got way big.
    I'd argue it's actually more similar to the modern-day isekai genre. Heck, Fuu (one of the three main characters) literally remarks that the fantasy world they're transported to is similar to that of an RPG, and similarity to a typical (J)RPG fantasy world is one of the hallmarks of recent isekai, according to that video's claims (to the point where recent series that are simply about JRPG-style worlds get painted with a similar brush).

    I think it's not so much having similarities as playing them up. Based on that video, being as blatant as possible in regards to how gamers are the target audience is a huge theme in the recent trend.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Naas_Human wrote: »
    I think it's not so much having similarities as playing them up. Based on that video, being as blatant as possible in regards to how gamers are the target audience is a huge theme in the recent trend.
    Fair point. I actually wish they'd stick with the fantasy world thing rather than try to make it game-mechanics-y. I would have thought that's the part they'd try to hide, but...
  • RuFbQcX.jpg

    I love that this exists as a YuYuYu spinoff. This image just exudes contrast with the parent media.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    It made me think of Fire Girl for a moment, lol.
  • There is love everywhere, I already know
    I actually wish they'd stick with the fantasy world thing rather than try to make it game-mechanics-y. I would have thought that's the part they'd try to hide, but...

    I think the target audience is actually people who used to play games or would like to, but no longer have the time or want to put in effort. For example, Infinite Dendrogram is about the protagonist playing a video game.

    That's obvious escapism. I think it does tend to feel like it "means" less. For example, I enjoyed Seisen Cerberus a lot because it was never more than just a fantasy series (being based on a mobile card game and not an LN helped) and it took the setting seriously and that allowed for a fun economic theory based plot to accompany the more fantastical elements without feeling out of place.

    I should have also probably watched GRANBLUE FANTASY, but I feel that ship has sailed for me, maybe.
  • edited 2017-11-06 05:31:33
    Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Seisen Cerberus? I'll put that name on my radar I guess.

    And why has the Granblue Fantasy ship "sailed" already for you?

    Anyway I popped in an old audiocassette of 101 Strings and I suddenly realized that some anime soundtrack music stylistically takes after these older easy-listening types of songs.
  • There is love everywhere, I already know
    It aired two cours ago, so I'd have to find some time to watch it, and I rarely do that nowadays.
  • edited 2017-11-07 05:33:20
    There is love everywhere, I already know
    Japan was no longer infected with the pacifist mentality that had plagued its citizens a hundred years ago

    Subtle, BEATLESS, subtle.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    I see anime has learned to be spicy.
  • There is love everywhere, I already know
    It's actually from the LN BEATLESS, but I'm pretty sure the anime next cour will have similar militaristic tendencies.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    suggestions for light novel titles:
    * In Another World With My TI-89
    * In Another World With My Steam Account
    * In Another World With My Keytar
    * In Another World With My Luxury Yacht
    * In Another World With My Solar Photovoltaic Panels
    * In Another World With My Anime DVD Collection
    * In Another World With Their Jetpacks, Hoverboards, and Teleporters
    * In Another World Teaching The Locals About The P Versus NP Problem
    * In Another World With My Campaign For Elected Office
    * In Another World With My Big Fat Greek Wedding
    * In Another World With Yet Another World In Tow
  • There is love everywhere, I already know
    Isn't that last one just Hai to Gensou no Grimgar?
    In Another World With My Luxury Yacht

    I'd watch it.
  • So like, if MGRP Restart had Captain Grace?
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1381967&show=50#msg52950956 to what extent can this be summarizable as "I like cool-looking female protags and sci-fi setting elements"?
  • Blassreither

    C.mon man, there is no H.
  • edited 2017-11-07 21:58:46
    In "the of course I'd say that" category of things, I seriously suggest putting Blassreiter as a priority because of how Urobuchi it is. Despite his claim that it was mostly Itano's doing.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    I currently have a negative opinion of Gen Urobuchi because of MadoMagi, lol.
  • There is love everywhere, I already know
    I am 28 episodes behind on Idol Time PriPara.

    It would be a very bad idea to try and catch up.

    I feel like now I have to do it.
  • edited 2017-11-09 18:25:58
    Symphogear AXZ's final episode does not placate the feeling of different magical girl franchises blurring together.

    Even the JoJo reference was a little too YuYuYu (well, NoWaYu).
  • There is love everywhere, I already know
    I think it's inevitable that there are similarities between franchises, but I don't think we're at "blurring together".

    Matoi was clearly inspired by Symphogear, but it was different enough. Similarly NoWaYu's team had what was essentially the Symphogear team's weapons, but the set-up was different.
  • edited 2017-11-10 10:27:18
    Matoi was the weird dissonance between the needlessly familiar and obnoxiously restating what isn't. It's unique in a way that's not exactly ideal.
  • edited 2017-11-10 16:15:07
    There is love everywhere, I already know
    If Yuma was the main character of Matoi I would like it better, but I'm not sure it would actually be better.

    In fact between Matoi and Yuma, Clarus' status as "Tsubasa knockoff" becomes really obvious (especially when you consider her backstory).
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    What's Matoi?
  • edited 2017-11-10 23:06:59
    That one Shinto-themed anime that isn't YuYuYu, or even all that influenced by it.

    cP5XwEC.jpg

    (Somehow, the imitation YuYuYu show is Battle Girl High School)
  • “I wanna be the kind of Magical Girl that I love. Since I became a Magical Girl, I’ll continue to help people every day, and I don’t plan on stopping. If I get a job, that’s gonna interrupt all my Magical Girl activities.”

    (...)

    How old are you again?”

    “That’s got nothing to do with…”

    How old?”

    “Thirty… Four.”

    “Chie Yumeno, do you want to know what kind of rumors people say about you in the neighborhood?”

    “No…”

    “Change your clothes and go to the Employment Support Center. Now.”

    Magical Girl Raising Project is still great.
  • edited 2017-11-11 10:17:50
    There is love everywhere, I already know
    MahoIku is great at establishing insane characters.

    One of my biggest regrets is that they didn't explore how Princess Quake was prooooooobably a little too obsessed with children more before she died.

    I feel like between me and Naas we've covered every magical girl show that aired this year that isn't PreCure.
  • I wanna say that Wixoss Peeping Analyze had things resolved too conveniently, but then I remembered the ridiculousness of Lostorage Incited Wixoss.
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