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  • Is it possible to have a type of economy not on the spectrum from capitalism to communism?


    I'm sincerely ignorant on matters of economy, so I apologize if my question makes no sense.

  • "you duck spawn, refined creature, you try to be cynical, yokel, but all that comes out of it is that you're a dunce!!!!! you duck plug!"

    Depends how you define both. In fact, one can even argue that worker self-management is closer to capitalist side, because when you define capitalism as private ownership and communism as state ownership, then it's just going to be private ownership shared between a group of people. On the other hand, some socialists claim state socialism is just capitalism with the state being the capitalist, since you still go to work to earn wage and stuff. So, depends. Then there are fascists, who like to claim they're following "the third way", and some minor currents of thought like certain variations on Catholic social teachings (that Mondragon company was set up by a priest IIRC).

  • (Sorry for the late reply.)



    There's more to life than binaries, and the extent that you're willing to downplay exploitation under capitalism shows that you're stuck in "lesser evil" mode. Communism may not be a viable alternative, but capitalism/socialism is a spectrum and Scandinavian countries have found prosperity and welfare under hybrid systems. Heck, Norway is a social democratic country that puts our Conservative government to shame in fiscal management.



    Ahh, trust me, I know about the spectrum thing and have lived through a good span of it. That said, socialists don't consider social democracy to be socialist because their economy is still based on free markets, and for that same reason I'm not going to, either.



    If it weren't for capitalism, Panama might have never obtained independance without bloodshed. But one thing to put in mind is that capitalism is not democracy. Pinochet and Batista are as much capitalist as any. Capitalism is not the most viable alternative, it's the alternative that was bundled with free press.



    Ahh, the world isn't lacking in non-democratic capitalism, but really, it's pretty much a requirement, money is power, and when all the money is in the hands of a single entity (say, the state-government-party), well...


    Also, I'm curious about that independance thing.

  • He who laments and can't let go of the past is forever doomed to solitude.

    Panama didn't kill any colombian soldier during the separation process. The US provided naval support to avoid having to fight. All because they wanted the canal. Also, panama had an oligarchy up until the military coup in the 60's. They were all a bunch of white rich dudes who ran all the ballots and most of them were part or descendants of the independant movement.

  • He who laments and can't let go of the past is forever doomed to solitude.

    That's not awful. That's capitalism 101. An aristocracy of nobles is replaced by an aristocracy of wealth. And they weren¡'t all bad. Most of these presidents were capable, and not at all partisan.

  • I was referring mostly to the canal thing. Though if they weren't partisan, well, good.

  • He who laments and can't let go of the past is forever doomed to solitude.

    President Chiari appointed the opposition leader to be his envoy to the US when the January 9th 1964 happened.

  • I just counted the number of functional clocks in my room.


    I have one for every hour plus one extra! :D

  • ^^ Sounds like a cool chap. Our whites and greens didn't last long before partisanship took in, and then the reds brought it to a new level.


    Also, nice holiday.


    ^ I can't remember the last time I had a clock.

  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human

    I have ten clocks in my current living space.


    No, they are not all wall clocks.  Only one of them is.

  • Most of mine are wall clocks, with a few desk/tabletop clocks thrown in


    Also the number would be higher if you count things like cable boxes and microwaves that show the time on their displays, but I only counted dedicated clocks because I figured I have to draw the line somewhere

  • "you duck spawn, refined creature, you try to be cynical, yokel, but all that comes out of it is that you're a dunce!!!!! you duck plug!"

    I don't have that many clocks, but I like the sound of ticking.

  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human

    wall clock
    VCR/cable box/TV thingy/??? clock
    microwave clock (not currently in use)
    watch
    other watch (maybe? not sure if I have it with me, not currently in use)
    cell phone
    computer
    alarm clock
    wall clock (oh wait, I have two, actually, oops)
    travel alarm clock (not currently in use)

  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human

    I have been wiki-walking.  Recent destinations include:
    Amazônia Legal
    Capybara
    Duty-free shop
    Administrative divisions of Mexico
    Paraphyly
    Pantanal
    List of countries by population
    Demographics of Paraguay
    Akihabara
    Indo-Canadians
    Gold tegu


    Clearly, I am looking to buy exotic animals from South American minorities at duty-free shops in Japan.

  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human

    Seminar class, session 1: canceled because school had a snow day closure.  Professor revises syllabus to accomodate the change.


    Seminar class, session 2: professor is attending conference on seminar class topic, about 900 miles away.  Impending ice storm.  Return flight cancelled.  Professor books new return flight; asks students to stay for an extra hour since class will start an hour late.  New return flight is cancelled.  A while later, professor secures Skype connectivity from another professor, and will use that to hold class at regular time.

  • He who laments and can't let go of the past is forever doomed to solitude.

    And who is the vice president candidate of Ricardo Martinelli's party? Marta Linares de Martinelli. No one was surprised. It just should be illegal.

  • While I suppose it shouldn't be illegal, our vice president is such on the merits of banging one of Chávez' daughters.


    (Psst, if you make a General Pmá. Politics Thread, I'd read it.)

  • edited 2014-01-30 12:59:27
    He who laments and can't let go of the past is forever doomed to solitude.

    We panamanians dislike the concept of re-elections. the point of a president is to have a leader with one time privileges, having continuation in power is bad for democracy. And Jose Domingo Arias is a candidate with limited accomplisments already, Marta Linares is a poor public speaker, as her announcement made clear. For more info on the concept of continuation in power: The 1994-1999 president did a referendum to change the law so he could run again for president the result was a resounding NO.


    And I don't have the time nor the political acumen to make such thread. It's not a bout venting, it's about having a concise and clear political ideology.

  • edited 2014-01-30 14:51:10

    Reminds me of the protests over 2007's referendum. Good times.


    I kinda just repost news on the Vzla. politics thread, and venting is fuuuun! Ahh well, I'll have to tell 14wings to make a General S.A. politics thread. >_>


    My political ideology has become very clear and concise: fuck the reds.

  • He who laments and can't let go of the past is forever doomed to solitude.

    That's not a position, that's a reaction. It's the thing that keeps people reading Julius Evola's racist backwards shit. I was pretty red as a teenager because I was reacting to the overbearing capitalism and social injustice wrought from that system. And my godfather, who I think is a non-theist, also my uncle, was a law student in the USSR so I got lots of feedback from mother russia there. But then I've started to realize, I am more of a social democrat in practice and values. A perfectly horizontal society is unnatainable at the scale of population we need, that is, the scale to reach the stars.

  • "you duck spawn, refined creature, you try to be cynical, yokel, but all that comes out of it is that you're a dunce!!!!! you duck plug!"

    We've once had identical twins as president and prime minister. Attack of the Clones jokes were had.

  • Hmm, you're right about the reaction thing. For yet another parallelism-in-reverse, I had been cutting the reds a bit too much slack due to the fact that things weren't all rosy during the 90s and that the opposition weren't saints either, especially early on.

  • He who laments and can't let go of the past is forever doomed to solitude.

    Really, I mean it. I can't believe my best friend reads that doofus. It's insulting to the intelligence on so many levels.

  • All the stuff I can find on him is tl;dr, can I get a summary?
  • "you duck spawn, refined creature, you try to be cynical, yokel, but all that comes out of it is that you're a dunce!!!!! you duck plug!"

    Mussolini's thinking-brain guy.

  • He who laments and can't let go of the past is forever doomed to solitude.

    I can give you a summation: Democracy bad, equality bad, hierarchies are the natural state of humans, fascism is a natural reaction of europeans against the forces that try to destroy what makes it great, but is misguieded. Black people are the descendants of a southern precursor race brought down by their inherent materialism. Norther europeans and native americans and some asians were the descendants of a superior norther race, like atlantis, who were brought down because they lost touch with their spirituality, and they were not entirely physicial beings and the mixing of races is bad because it dooms everyone to the downs that the souther race had and a great monarchy should be ideal and oh my god.

  • Sounds like a Metapedia idol.

  • He who laments and can't let go of the past is forever doomed to solitude.

    My friend is too right-wing for even them.

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