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How many horror games use wild and exotic locations.

edited 2011-08-10 22:40:16 in Media
MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
Granted, this can work sometimes, but a lot of times it just alienates the audience from the danger. It's fine for a game like Devil May Cry or God of War, but familiarity is important to the horror genre.

I mean, do you know why Halloween is set in a regular suburban house like oh say YOURS? And why it has a relatively believable killer just like the one standing behind you, but don't look now because that'll really get him mad. It's because what makes horror scary is stepping into an uncanny valley: where the known meets the unknown, a point where what you're certain about ceases to be quantified, but you're not certain to what degree. You go too far, and  simply make it so that the entire situation is alien then you lose the scares.

Take Resident Evil 4, for example. The beginning is actually pretty creepy at first, with the small country town and the people who are just kind of... off, followed by one of the most intense gaming experiences I have ever had in my life in that town. Then we get to the super-monsters and railroading in lava pits. While the game is still engaging, it ceases to be frightening.
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  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    >Resident Evil

    >Horror
  • When in Turkey, ROCK THE FUCK OUT
    The first three games were. 
  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    ^^They try, and like I said, RE4 actually has some really good moments for it.
  • edited 2011-08-10 22:45:18
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Still seems more like an action series with a lot of tense moments to me. Though less so before 4.
  • When in Turkey, ROCK THE FUCK OUT
    Fine, the first three games tried to be.
  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    Oh, but action horror is a genre. It's usually not a very scary one, but the zombie-fighting scene in the most 4 is probably the best use of it I've ever seen.

    RE5... is not scary... at all.
  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    For the record, my definition of "horror" is probably more narrow than almost anyone else's.
  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    So if RE4 doesn't count as horror, then any Alien film after the first certainly better not either.
  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    I haven't actually seen any of them >.>
  • RE5... is not scary... at all.

    Are you kidding?  The notion that a budget that high produced that kind of writing is terrifying.
  • RE 1-3 had settings that were pretty scary.

    RE 4 had a more favorable control scheme in my opinion.

    RE 5's best addition for fear-inducing was the real-time equipment menu.

    So if they make an over-the-shoulder RE with like the original zombies and a familiar/uncanny valley-esque setting with a real-time equipment menu I'd be pretty happy.
  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    My basic view on horror in games is that they can't be of the standard "fight hundreds of monsters and win every time" video game formula and still be scary.

    Yet at the same time, actually killing the player breaks immersion.
  • edited 2011-08-11 00:46:05
    You can change. You can.
    I liked the setting for RE 4 because it was familiar. >_>

    Sorta jokes asides (What can I say, Colombia had lots of villages. And Cartagena did have a castle. Well, more like a fortress, but you catch my drift) Horror is just stuff that attempts to induce fear into the audience, by whatever means necessary. In fact, something not being scary doesn't disqualify at being horror, it just disqualifies it at being good horror.

    Also, hybrid genres, such as horror comedy (Like the Blood and Ice Cream Duology and Army of Darkness) are still horror. They just emphasize comedy because funniness.

    ^My belief is that horror in Videogames should be about unsurmountable enemies and a great setting with imaginative controls and playing with the medium. 

    the last one is important. Horror works best when it makes the audience unsettled and out of their element.
  • MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    So wait, are there also cave trolls and lava pits in your area?
  • You can change. You can.
    This is Baltimore Colombia. The Gods won't save you.
  • OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    I'm actually working on a couple of concepts for horror games. Not going to go into detail before I have more finalized, though.
  • ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    Horror games you say?

    InMyOpinion the most horrifying one that I had the honor of playing was Alien Trilogy. It was only horrifying then because I was small, but I have never felt so paranoid after playing a game like that. There was nightmares to be had. Even when I knew where all the aliens were, where all of the facehuggers were, where the shotgun shells were, I could never look outside my window again or walk home alone after that game. I could never get past the 8th level because of how nervous I got, after my shotgun shells ran out, I picked up all of the health and I let the warriors and drones lash me to a lumbering mess, hiding behind a corner with only a 9mm, knowing that it was going to kill me the moment I turned around the corner.

    Whenever I walked along the road I would hear stepping, and hissing out in the fields. Not like snake hissing, but inhuman, stalkerish blood-curdling cries, and they would go from one side of the pitch black darkness to the other.

    Whenever I would be sleeping in my bed, I would hear scurrying under my bed. Whenever I looked out the window, I would see twisted shadows there, just staring through and appearing on the walls of my bedroom. I felt very paranoid some times, afraid to walk around my house because I did not want to hear those disgusting footsteps come rushing towards me.

    I would be too afraid of going down to the basement to pick anything up, due to the sounds of lumbering footsteps and gnarled screaming below. I didn't want to open any boxes because I was afraid a facehugger would jump out and violate my throat.

    Sometimes whenever I woke up in a hot sweat or with chest pain I would run to the bathroom, clutching myself in fear thinking there would be a twisted pink little embryo ready to burst through my chest and splatter my blood across the entire mirror and nest in my brother's closet, eating my family one by one.



    And then the day I saw the dogs in my neighborhood splattered across the road during the night time I feared for the worst. Was it roadkill? If so....where did the other half of the body go?

    I always looked hauntingly back at that field, feeling the prescence of hundreds of monsters running around in the tall grass and rotting trees, little tunnels underneath the hillside filled to the brim with slimy beings with razor-sharp teeth and chitinous skin.

    I grew out of the fear eventually, but it was fear I felt back then, and when I go to visit that old neighborhood, I look back at the field, and still feel those eyes there.
  • no longer cuddly, but still Edmond
    So am I the only person on this forum who has played Clock Tower, Penumbra and the original Alone in the Dark games from 1994?
  • Metroid: Other M was a horror story.


  • One foot in front of the other, every day.
    and still feel those eyes there


    Or rather, the watchers in the darkness that see without eyes. Dx

    That was totally me for AvP2, the FPS game.
  • I was scared of a resident evil game...

    Mostly cause I play games defensively, which means if I need to go somewhere, I'd rather see everywhere of it before I go there...

    Truth be told, I never went past the first 2 rooms XD
  • I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    Condemned is less exotic and I'd class that as a horror game.
  • Mr. The Edge goes to Washington
    The scariest game would be... if they gave Sinbad another TV show... and made a videogame of that!
  • no longer cuddly, but still Edmond
    So am I the only person on this forum who has played Clock Tower, Penumbra and the original Alone in the Dark games from 1994?


    The vote is.. yes, I probably am.
  • Clean your room little Billy

    ^ I've played them as well. They were all pretty good, though the first AitD hasn't aged well at all, graphically.

  • no longer cuddly, but still Edmond
    Graphically, nor have the bugs gone away. But it's still creepier than your average Resident Evil game.

    Though, I liked the first two REs.
  • Clean your room little Billy
    I finished RE4 twice over. Loved the hell out of it. But it wasn't really horror anymore (except maybe when Dr. Salvador makes an unexpected consultation visit directly behind you). As with Dead Space, it's action gaming with a greebly reskin.
  • edited 2011-08-11 18:32:40
    Resident Evil 4 was all the better for dropping that pretense of horror the original ones had. It was a pretty good action game, instead of a mediocre horror one.
  • You can change. You can.
    I dunno, I was rather fond of RE1's remake. Sure it ain't perfect, but it had its scary moments.

    Also, RE4, as I've mentioned before, had its creepy moments (Regenerators and Iron Maidens, the cultists at the castle, Dr Salvador)

    Overall, I'd say it's mostly a thing of its own, rather than simply action or horror. Or even action/horror. 
  • Clean your room little Billy

    Ah yes, I forgot about the Iron Maidens. It helps that they require precision, which often leads to a face full of spikes before you can line the shot up correctly.

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