People who dismiss entire mediums out of hand.

Malkavian · 2011-07-29 22:03:53

The dismissal of the virtual boy is a dismissal of a shoddy piece of tech, not the entire medium of video games.

Also, there was a lovecraft game for the Virtual Boy... I kind of want a Virtual Boy now...

^A debate of fetishes. 'Twas silly.

Deboss · 2011-07-30 03:49:19

If you've tried a genre/medium and found that it employs various tropes that you don't like, it makes sense to dismiss it. There's no point in consuming media that you don't enjoy, since that's medias only purpose. It only serves to create a form of bias that leads toward a higher rate of enjoying works you pick out.

Don't worry Forzare, I don't know either.

ninjaclown · 2011-07-30 04:06:34

Dear god, I'm agreeing with Malkavian. Normally, I'm not interested in what he talks about but he makes valid points.

TheMightyAnonym · 2011-07-30 05:59:40

I dismissed anime for a while; then Inuyasha happened.

Darn gateway drug.

Vorpy · 2011-07-30 22:53:25

^

Me too

Forzare · 2011-07-30 22:54:06

^^ Me too, only replace "Iyunasha" with "Azumanga Daioh."

ClockworkUniverse · 2011-07-30 22:55:56

Me too, only replace "Inuyasha" with "Eden of the East."

Hatter · 2011-07-30 22:58:35

I liked anime for a while. Then moe, 99% of hentai and weeabooism happened.

Now I only like mature anime like Cowboy Bebop, for mature viewers such as myself.

DonZabu · 2011-07-30 23:03:51

Me too, only replace "Inuyasha" with "Pokemon".

MillerCross · 2011-07-30 23:22:52

I disagree, and here's why.

there's nothing wrong with disliking a medium, if the trappings of the medium don't interest you in particular. Like, for example, if you don't like sitting two hours and watching a movie, you're not entirely a bad person or you're incult or whatever, same way if ou're not interested in serial storytelling, and therefore, animation, TV and comics don't interest you.

With that said, it is annoying when the dismissal is dumb, such as the classic "Reading is faggy" or the like.

Malkavian · 2011-07-30 23:33:04

^I think the words 'dismissal' might be vague and that's my fault. I don't mean 'not watching something that's not your cup of tea'. I mean 'declaring something as lacking any value because it's not your cup of tea.'

MillerCross · 2011-07-30 23:36:06

That's why I didn't say "Dismissal" in the first paragraph.

Brothers, remember?

Crimson · 2011-07-31 08:24:06

@Juan and Deboss: I disagree because when you get to the medium level the categories are broad enough to allow for incredible diversity between the works in that medium. It's not a case of an entire medium not appealing to you so much as you haven't found something within that medium that you've liked.

>Now I only like mature anime like Cowboy Bebop, for mature viewers such as myself.

Might I recommend Monster?

nohaynicklibre · 2011-07-31 08:30:02

Boku no Pico is much maturer,and has a deep psychological message

MillerCross · 2011-07-31 12:21:31

I disagree because when you get to the medium level the categories are broad enough to allow for incredible diversity between the works in that medium. It's not a case of an entire medium not appealing to you so much as you haven't found something within that medium that you've liked.

But, as it is, works that share the same medium still have something in common. That's why we still use such a classification. Like, for example, all videogames are interactive, right? What if you don't find this intereaction interesting or entertaining?

Same goes to comics, aren't all comics pictures with words? So, what if you don't find the idea of reading bubbles and sequential art entertaining?

Or TV. TV is a form of serial storytelling. Maybe you don't like to wait each week for an episode, or don't like to invest the 13/26 hours that would be spent in watching a DVD of a Tv series

and then, films. Maybe you don't think that two hours is enough to satisfy your entertainment needs as the story has to be in a time limit, and it can't develop its characters properly or whatever.

Anyway, I think I made my point clear.

Malkavian · 2011-07-31 12:44:55

I don't disagree with what you're saying, Juan, but I still think it's best to keep an open mind about these things and allow yourself to be willing to experience new things.

MillerCross · 2011-07-31 19:48:04

Well, yeah, but I think we can all agree that not all of us can sit down and enjoy everything. As long as you aren't an snobby bitch about it, you're good to go, to me, that is.

MoeDantes · 2011-08-01 04:59:44

I disagree because when you get to the medium level the categories are broad enough to allow for incredible diversity between the works in that medium.

allow for, yes. That's not to say they're always taken advantage of. Especially more niche mediums tend to focus on one or two genres.

Case in point, you'd be fully justified in avoiding video games circa 1981, when practically every game in existence was either a simplistic space shooter, simplistic platform game, simplistic Pac-Man clone, or else was on the PC or Commodore or something and nobody except those with cosmic space-brains knew how to run them anyway. But if you're dismissing games nowadays, yer just ig'nant.

Scrye2 · 2011-08-01 08:14:38

^^^Except that's unfathomably stupid. Making broadstroke dismissals like that leads to being poorly-rounded.

^^Certainly,
but it can enrich your life. If you eat at a place that has lower
quality food than another place that costs the same, you're cheating
yourself.

Yeeeah... I don't really think I'm missing out on being well-rounded or enriching my life by forgoing that Lucky Star shit.

MillerCross · 2011-08-01 10:18:54

Lucky Star ain't a medium, son. And there's enough variety in anime for you to find something you like.

Scrye2 · 2011-08-01 10:29:58

And I'm not impressed.

MillerCross · 2011-08-01 10:34:46

-shrug- I'll keep watching Anime!Firefly then.

The_Edge · 2011-08-01 11:20:13

I love Anime!Firefly!

AHR · 2011-08-01 11:21:11

Firefly has an animé?

Wicked223 · 2011-08-01 11:21:54

yes, it's called Cowboy Bebop.

GLORIOUSLeader · 2011-08-01 11:24:38

Actually, it's Outlaw Star. I think.

The_Edge · 2011-08-01 11:26:00

I consider both, Outlaw Star and Cowboy Bebop, to be Anime!Firefly.

Nyktos · 2011-08-01 11:44:22

Cowboy Bebop doesn't really have all that much in common with Firefly to be honest. It has guys...in space...who do things. Yeah, that's all the similarities.

Scrye2 · 2011-08-01 11:45:37

If my recollection of Outlaw Star from Toonami is anything to go by, just add "there's a chick in a box/jar" and that's about as far as the similarities go.

The_Edge · 2011-08-01 11:53:06

Well for one, Firefly, Cowboy Bebop, and Outlaw Star are all in the "final" frontier. Humanity is living in the stars now, but things are all Star Trek with great healthcare benefits and such. Life in the stars for these three series is tough. While Firefly takes a wild west vs. modern approach, Cowboy Bebop is mostly modern as well as Outlaw Star. However, Cowboy Bebop and Outlaw Star still have wild west elements. Firefly and Cowboy Bebop have no aliens and some colonies haven't terraformed too well. While Outlaw Star has a large part of society existing outside the social norms like the Brown Coats on Firefly. I could go on and on about these three series, but I really don't want to.

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