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Mass Effect isn't perfect and that angers me.

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  • FirebertFirebert
    I'm getting the Collector's Edition myself, it being (possibly) my favorite series and all.
  • MadassAlexMadassAlex
    One foot in front of the other, every day.
    Personally, I don't think Bioware are likely to hit the sweet spot they did the KotOR again any time soon.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    edited 2011-12-21 22:40:55
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    I'm getting the Collector's edition...of the PC version. What with how you don't need an Xbox Live gold subscription to use all the features on that one. That's why I'm playing the PC ME1 and 2.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    ^^^I'm simply stating a goal the game sets for itself and fails at. It can still be enjoyable but if they tout themselves as RPGs I'm no unreasonable to expect an RPG.

    True. It's just that at this stage, expecting games to live up to their labels seems a bit too...2004-ish

    man, that was a good year

    RE4. :D
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    edited 2011-12-21 22:42:03
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    Man I just wish they'd make Jade Empire 2 already.

    ^^^I felt that the first Dragon Age was actually better than KOTOR. I found the world and characters more engaging though it might be because at the time I had been on a fantasy dry spell.
  • DYREDYRE
    edited 2011-12-21 22:43:05

    It's almost like we're talking about something that calls itself a roleplaying game.

    In the context of video games, RPG refers to a type of game (usually a subclass of strategy games) in which, among other things, the player determines what actions the character(s) they control will do but the character's abilities determine how successful they are.  And these character abilities have to improve somehow over the course of the game in a manner that is somehow influenced by the player's choices.

    This is all RPG has ever really meant when talking about video games.  Roleplaying is not actually a requirement and the genre is only named such because the game mechanics of computer RPGs were originally adapted from tabletop RPGs, which actually do involve roleplaying.

  • FirebertFirebert
    edited 2011-12-21 22:43:16
    Jade Empire 2 would be awesome, but the first game didn't do that well, unfortunately.

    And Mass Effect will always be an RPG in my eyes.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    I want more Baldur's Gate.  :V
  • MadassAlexMadassAlex
    One foot in front of the other, every day.
    I felt that the first Dragon Age was actually better than KOTOR. I
    found the world and characters more engaging though it might be because
    at the time I had been on a fantasy dry spell.

    Overall, I simply preferred the mechanics of KotOR. Can't comment on the characterisation of either, since it's been a while.

    That said, DA probably had the better pacing and buildup. The last act of that was incredible.
  • ForzareForzare
    edited 2011-12-21 22:46:50
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    Every time I try to play DA:O, my computer dies.  :l

    Like, permadeath dies. 
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    I replayed KOTOR about a year back. Unfortunately, it loses a lot of its bite when you know the big plot twist. =|

    I think a good decision on Bioware's part was not to make you all 'oh I have amnesia' which would have destroyed the impact.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    Baldur's Gate is probably always going to be my favorite Bioware series.  But that probably has a lot to do with the fact that I basically grew up with it.

    And yeah, that twist was awesome.  And actually pulled off well.
  • FirebertFirebert
    Mass Effect's my favorite, natch, followed by Jade Empire.
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    KOTOR never had a moment that felt as thrilling as the counsel where you prove Loghain wrong to me.
  • MadassAlexMadassAlex
    One foot in front of the other, every day.
    Or a moment as interesting as when he joins your party.
  • HatterHatter
    Glaives are better.
    The Landsmeet was the only part of Dragon Age that I liked. Why couldn't the game have been entirely about Loghain, and cut out the crap with the Darkspawn? The Darkspawn weren't compelling as villains*. I couldn't give less of a shit about them. They were just walking plot devices.

    If they'd kept and expanded Loghain's role, revamped the class system to give more options, tweaked the setting, allowed you two more characters in a party and made it so that the game itself didn't look like someone had wiped mud all over it, it would have been my GOTYAY. As it is, though, Dragon Age is one of Bioware's weaker games.

    * I make a distinction between "monsters" and "villains." A villain (usually) talks and always has motivation; Saren, Darth Vader, Irenicus and Sovereign are all good examples of villains, even though they're monstrous in their own ways. A monster is a mindless force. 
  • NyarlyNyarly
    edited 2011-12-22 01:01:49
    Likes cheesecake unironically.

    In the context of video games, RPG refers to a type of game (usually a
    subclass of strategy games) in which, among other things, the player
    determines what actions the character(s) they control will do but the
    character's abilities determine how successful they are.  And these
    character abilities have to improve somehow over the course of the game
    in a manner that is somehow influenced by the player's choices.

    This
    is all RPG has ever really meant when talking about video games.
     Roleplaying is not actually a requirement and the genre is only named
    such because the game mechanics of computer RPGs were originally adapted
    from tabletop RPGs, which actually do involve roleplaying.

    I love you. Seriously, there are a lot of people who should finally learn this.

    It's not like actual roleplay is really possible in a computer game. At most, it may be possible in MMORPGs. But arguing that a single-player CRPG doesn't have enough role-playing is just dumb.

  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    I think certain games, in particular Persona 3 and 4 have managed genuine roleplaying, though thy are very rare.
  • FirebertFirebert
    edited 2011-12-22 01:03:46
    ^^ Indeed. So Mass Effect is plenty enough RPG.

    ^ I really need to get a PSP/PS2 sometime so I can play those...
  • SaigyoujiSaigyouji
    But you never had any to begin with.
    Neverwinter Nights isn't a "primary" entry? :<
  • FirebertFirebert
    Who ever said it wasn't?
  • dmboogiedmboogie
    probably human
    A bit late, but I'm pretty sure that the multiplayer is being developed by a separate team, so it's not like it's draining resources that could be used on the main game. 
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Personally, I'm actually looking forward to the multiplayer to the point that I'm switching to the PC version of the series because I wouldn't be able to play it on the Xbox version.
  • FirebertFirebert
    I'm looking forward to it as well, though on 360.
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