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The villains in Home Alone 1 and 2

IcalasariIcalasari
edited 2011-12-04 22:23:12 in Media
No rainbow star
God they are stupid! How do you FUNCTION like that!
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  • WaltzyWaltzy
    Home Alone is a pretty cool guy. eh turns on water faucets and doesn't afraid of anything.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    It's a kids movie. The villains are stupid because it amuses many kids to see the results.
  • InsanityAddictInsanityAddict
    Diet NEET
    There's a scene in Spy Hard that lets the kid finally have his comeuppance, but I can't find it on Youtube. :(
  • LegionnaireLegionnaire
    ^^ WHAT

    Presumably, they're stupid because if they weren't the movie wouldn't be classified as viewable by children.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    It's a lot harder to pull off a plot with intelligent criminals (i.e. people willing and able to kill a child) as villains that would entertain little kids and still be able to be shown to kids.
  • IcalasariIcalasari
    No rainbow star
    Yeah, but their level of idiocy?

    The only smart things they did in the second one was carefully turning on lights (I can forgive the guy for not expecting a blowtorch to the head) and the initial dodging of the paint cans

    ...Actually, thinking about it, the kid is also fairly evil. A kerosene soaked rope? Electrocuting a man? A staple gun to the face?
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    -shrug-
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    I think you're supposed to forgive comedic sociopathy in kids... for some reason.

    Man, eff that movie. One of my least favorite Christmas memories.
  • IcalasariIcalasari
    No rainbow star
    ^ These days the criminals would sue and win :D

    ...And in that case I think I'd support the criminals because holy crap psycho kid
  • GelzoGelzo
    Pony Sleuth
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine

    A good number of U.S. states authorize use of deadly force against a home intruder.
  • IanExMachinaIanExMachina
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    ^
    I hate that stuff :/
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    ^Why? I mean, seriously, if someone's invading my house and I don't know if they mean me harm or not, pardon me if I prioritize my safety over theirs.
  • IanExMachinaIanExMachina
    edited 2011-12-05 07:46:24
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    DEADLY Force?

    Restrain them, incapacitate them sure, but go all the way to kill them?

    EDIT:
    I s'pose you might be in more danger over there what with everyone having guns, but I still don't support the deadly force bit.

  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    edited 2011-12-05 07:46:28
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Restraining and incapacitating aren't easy. Both involve some level of risk. Shooting and stabbing, less so.
  • IanExMachinaIanExMachina
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    I'd say stabbing has a pretty high risk too with having to get close, at at that range hitting them with something blunt and heavy to incapacitate is a viable option really.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Hitting them with something blunt and heavy isn't an incapacitating measure. It's a killing measure.
  • IanExMachinaIanExMachina
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    I didn't say to the head, you can hit in various places and incapacitate them without it being a deathblow.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    edited 2011-12-05 07:53:17
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    That's a risk, though. You can only take out one limb at a time that way, and it guarantees that you're within their reach. If they have even a knife, that's a bad idea.
  • IanExMachinaIanExMachina
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    If they have a knife they have to undergo risk too, making actual assault a less viable reaction and retreat more viable.

    Depends on what object you hold regarding reach though.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Retreat is less viable for them if I just took out a leg.
  • IanExMachinaIanExMachina
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    And then you'd kill them?
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    edited 2011-12-05 08:11:39
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    No, this is your hypothetical scenario. I'd just shoot them to start with.
  • IanExMachinaIanExMachina
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    I think I'll just have to agree to disagree over the whole thing really.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    edited 2011-12-05 08:25:36
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Yeah, probably.

    One thing I should stress, though: killing isn't my goal in such a situation. Incapacitating is. First thing I'd do after shooting is call emergency services and ask them to send an ambulance and a police car.

    There is no situation in which I want a human to die. There are situations in which I'll accept it, but I'd never desire it.
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    Honestly this is a largely moot discussion because home invaders will come in when you're not home.
  • ClockworkUniverseClockworkUniverse
    OOOooooOoOoOOoo, I'm a ghoOooOooOOOost!
    Heh, true. Home invasions are rare, and this situation is rare even among that already-rare situation.
  • nohaynicklibrenohaynicklibre
    Kichigai birthday!!
    This movie and Problem Child are what probably spawned my hate for blond kids when I was younger
  • captainbrasscaptainbrass
    Are they Ineffectual Sympathetic Villains? I have to agree with the various people who've pointed out that you can't really unleash hardcore violent criminals in a kiddie movie, and if they were shown as remotely smart it wouldn't be believable when have their asses handed to them by a small child.
  • DemongodofchaosDemongodofchaos
    Feel The Wrath....
    Now, imagine putting in Hoome Alone traps when you house is on fire:


  • IcalasariIcalasari
    No rainbow star
    @Castle law thing: I'd say it would be better if it protected the person if they accidentally killed the intruder defending themselves (unless the intruder is threatening your life for certain in which case all bets are off)
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