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My half-brothers don't know who Godzilla is

MyrmidonMyrmidon
edited 2011-11-20 15:49:16 in Meatspace
What the hell is WRONG with kids these days?
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  • NyktosNyktos
    a little muffled
    how is that even possible
  • RedEyedAbyssRedEyedAbyss
    Internet, that's what.
  • CounterclockCounterclock
    Belief
    Generation gap, oh noes

    >This generation is ignorant of [form of media]

    Grumble incoherently!
  • SaigyoujiSaigyouji
    But you never had any to begin with.
    ^ But what about the 1998 film, awful as it was?
  • EvergreenEvergreen
    Hey, my mother didn't know the difference between zombies and vampires, I even made a thread about it here back when it happened months ago. I bet she doesn't know Godzilla either. Then again, she's also middle-aged, not a kid...

    It is a shame, though, I suppose. But I've learned in life that you can't really expect anyone to know anything. You'd think it's impossible for a teenager, especially an American, to not know what an aircraft carrier is...but that was my girlfriend circa June 2008, when we were high school juniors. And that's just the most extreme example I can think of.

    More on-topic, while I of course know what Godzilla is, I've actually never seen any of the old movies or the 90's remake. I've heard the Blue Oyster Cult song Godzilla plenty of times though...
  • RedEyedAbyssRedEyedAbyss
    "Generation gap, oh noes

    >This generation is ignorant of [form of media]

    Grumble incoherently!"

    To be fair, Godzilla is still a major part of pop culture. Even if you've never seen a Godzilla movie, it's odd if you aren't at least familiar with what he is since he's referenced so often.

  • GelzoGelzo
    Pony Sleuth
    How old are they?

    Also, the -zilla suffix is so common, you'd think they'd have heard that at least.
  • NyktosNyktos
    a little muffled
    Hell, I've never seen a Godzilla movie, but I still have a good idea of who he is and what he looks like.
  • CrimsonCrimson
    Give us fire! Give us ruin! Give us our glory!
    I know someone who doesn't know who Bruce Wayne is, and several people who have never watched a Star Wars movie and don't want to.
  • MyrmidonMyrmidon
    Four and seven.

    The seven-year-old will be eight in a week.
  • GelzoGelzo
    Pony Sleuth
    Well that certainly isn't as bad as someone around our ages not knowing.
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    At four I knew who godzilla was and watched the showa era movies all the time. Then again, that may have been evidence of the larval state of a weeaboo.
  • EvergreenEvergreen
    With kids that age, especially because Godzilla isn't that big a current/recent presence in the media, I'm not surprised that the pop culture osmosis hasn't gotten to them yet. Give it a few years...

    Also, yeah, I've encountered a surprising amount of people who haven't seen any Star Wars. Most of them don't have anything against the possibility of doing so, though.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    When I was little, I watched a lot of those at my neighbor's house.

  • GelzoGelzo
    Pony Sleuth
    I guess there are still quite a few culturally relevant movies that I haven't gotten around to seeing yet. Pulp Fiction, Fight Club, Inception... Hey, am I only counting those as culturally relevant because they have memes attached? Either way I hear a lot of quotes and talk about them.

    Also, my family still hasn't seen The Big Lebowski.
  • All NinesAll Nines
    edited 2011-11-20 18:39:34
    Has friends besides tanks now
    I haven't seen Pulp Fiction or The Big Lebowski, and I sorta-kinda watched Inception, but it was at a swim team dinner, and everyone was talking over it, so I didn't catch much.

    But perhaps worse than any of that is that I haven't seen the Lord of the Rings trilogy. I should probably do that, since there's no way they could be less interesting than the books (or at least, there's no way the first movie could be duller than the first book).
  • GelzoGelzo
    Pony Sleuth
    I watched the LOTR movies several years ago, and I had a hard time following the events. Maybe it was because I was younger or hadn't read the books. I can surely attest that they're less dull than the books, at least, but they can still be sorta dull at times.

    Oh, and I recommend watching The Big Lebowski with your drinking / stoner buddies if you have any. I last watched it while at a party with drinking, and it was good times.
  • All NinesAll Nines
    Has friends besides tanks now
    Don't have any stoner/drinking buddies, I'm afraid.

    And I did watch the first LOTR movie a few years ago, but I fell asleep near the end.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    Well, there's another thing we disagree on.

    I love the shit out of the books and the movies.
  • All NinesAll Nines
    Has friends besides tanks now
    I'll bet that the last two books/movies are more interesting than the first, at least. It would take a lot not to be.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    >:|
  • GelzoGelzo
    Pony Sleuth
    I can see how the stories can be interesting, but I fail to be entertained by the narrative, if that is a fair distinction to make.
  • captainbrasscaptainbrass

    I wouldn't be entirely surprised at kids that young never having heard of Godzilla, or anything else for that matter.


    I was a bit obsessed by him at that age, but that was from watching the old cartoon series (with Godzooki!) not the films. I've still never seen them.

  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    I guess there are still quite a few culturally relevant movies that I haven't gotten around to seeing yet. Pulp Fiction, Fight Club, Inception... Hey, am I only counting those as culturally relevant because they have memes attached? Either way I hear a lot of quotes and talk about them.

    If it helps, they're also incrediblly influential and kinda necessary to understand modern film as it is.

    Oh, and the LoTR movies are far better than the books. 

    No, Tolkien, I am not interested in what the elves did around 113 of the second age of the current land of whatever the fuck. I wanna see Frodo's journey from point a to point b.

    WHY IS IT SO HARD TO REMAIN IN TRACK AND NOT DIGRESS?
  • MadassAlexMadassAlex
    One foot in front of the other, every day.
    Tolkien does go off track sometimes, but to his credit, he only goes off track when nothing's really happening. His imitators aren't so observant of their own work.

    What I like about the films is their emotional intensity. Some parts are really a strong improvement -- Boromir's final moments spring to mind -- and their leaner, simpler telling of the story helps the audience remain invested in a way that a more literal-minded adaptation couldn't. All in all, the films are a triumph both cinematically and as adaptations.

    Given those points, I understand why, say, a film student (>:|) would consider the movies better than the books. Just as much as the films are masterful cinema adaptations of literary works, however, the book is a masterful literary adaptation of mythology without sacrificing strong characterisation, poignant themes and an original plot. It's just that the pacing sucks.

    Which I guess the films fixed as well.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Given those points, I understand why, say, a film student (>:|)

    I have no idea what you might be talking about 

    Mind you, the books are not bad. I read them after watching the movies and I did not feel like I had really "gone down" so to speak. But I definetly feel the movies are a far more rewarding experience. Mostly because it focuses on Frodo's journey and Aragorn's struggle, which are, to me, the most interesting parts about the film.

    Also, Viggo Mortensen is amazing.
  • MadassAlexMadassAlex
    One foot in front of the other, every day.
    In many respects, you're absolutely right. I hate to call upon the subjectivity argument, but the books and films are both very strong at their respective objectives. As noted, the books are more along the lines of mythology, except when dealing near-exclusively with the hobbits. The movies, on the other hand, a more conventionally dramatic with mythology setting the context for the drama.

    As for Viggo. Well. He's the one that inspired me to take up the sword. If you called it a man-crush, I couldn't argue. <_<
  • CounterclockCounterclock
    Belief
    Juan likes the Story, Alex likes the Mythos.

    Honestly, Not hard to tell what the problem is.

    @Juan. pacing was bad, but part of what Alex is trying to stress about was the underlying of a lot of really awesome things that strengthen the story's impact and the character's actions.

    @Alex. You understand a bit of why Juan feels that way, so I don't need to explain to you.
  • CounterclockCounterclock
    Belief
    Ninja'd by the swordsmen himself.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    I just don't think the story gains much from such an elaborate setting .

    Think of it like a house. A very expensive, good looking house, with billions upon billions of furniture, a pool and all that jazz.

    What's the point of those things if all you're gonn do is stare at them instead of using them? And for that matter, why care about the little things like their texture or shape combining and fitting with other shapes instead of just how good it feels?

    That, i think, is my main problem with Tolkien's aapproach to writing. I still like him, and the sons of turin is still one of my favorite books out there, but i still feel his need to create a world instead of a story doesn't make for good storytelling.
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