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There hasn't been a real good ghost movie in a while.

ViviVivi
edited 2011-09-28 22:24:21 in General
$80+ per session
Insidious was just very average. The third act kind of ruined it.

Comments

  • CounterclockCounterclock
    Belief
    Hmmm.

    What makes a good ghost movie?
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    Something different. Scary, or funny. Preferably both. Character Development. Crazy shit like TVs exploding or something, if you are going with the possessed route. Non-convoluted shit like having a psychic old lady to help you travel into the realm of demons where you son's real soul is being trapped while he is possessed. 
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    Paranormal Activity was pretty good.
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    Yeah but the second one kind of sucked.

    Oh, and another thing I like with my ghost movies is that the victim is someone related to the haunting, or whatever. Like, they aren't just some unlucky bitches that were in the wrong place and the wrong time. That works with other horror monsters, but not ghosts.

    I want me a really good ghost movie. I might go write one.
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    Oh, the second was crap, but if we're going to deny films based on lousy sequels we'd have to deny the exorcist.

    In  any case, there's also Ju-On and Kaiden for varying definitions of recent.
  • MoeDantesMoeDantes
    no longer cuddly, but still Edmond
    I haven't been impressed with a lot of horror movies lately either. Didn't really like the first Paranormal Activity much (never saw the second). It seems like the genre has just kinda lost something.

    White Noise was decent, IIRC.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    I never thought much of horror movies unless they were independent hipster bullshit, so.

    anyway, The Antichrist is a fun movie.
  • MadassAlexMadassAlex
    One foot in front of the other, every day.
    The Tunnel.

    An Australian horror film about abandoned tunnel networks under Sydney, reported on illegally by a news crew. Done documentary style and told entirely through footage taken at the time of investigation.
  • MoeDantesMoeDantes
    no longer cuddly, but still Edmond
    I didn't really like The Exorcist much either, but I'm probably spoiled because I read both the books first.

    Actually for some reason overtly religious themes tend to turn me off of horror movies... but then I watch Adventures in Oddysey and Bibleman. I don't even know how to explain that.

    Ya know one movie I found surprisingly decent? Final Destination 3. Which is odd because I hated the first part.
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    The latest FD was good, too.
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    ^^^^Didn't you go on a long spiel defending Aliens to me?
  • MoeDantesMoeDantes
    no longer cuddly, but still Edmond
    Did he?

    I'm less surprised by him defending than I am by the idea that Aliens needed defending.
  • MadassAlexMadassAlex
    One foot in front of the other, every day.
    Malk needs to get into this chickenshit outfit.
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    edited 2011-09-29 02:53:16
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    I don't think Aliens is a bad movie, but it did start every bad trend in the franchise.

    The first is a claustrophobic horror film with a monster terrorizing a constricted group.

    The second is WHOO SPACE MARINES SHOOTIN' UP SHIT!

    It does it well, but it encourages to macho fantasies other Alien products indulge in.

    Also, it wasn't scary.

    ^You just can't accept that James Cameron is a hack.
  • MadassAlexMadassAlex
    One foot in front of the other, every day.
    To be fair, I think Aliens is his only truly brilliant movie. The rest I can take or leave.

    Also, Closed Circle with monsters is the best horror setting.
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    What do you guys consider to be scary?
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    ^^You misspelled Terminator 2.

    ^Tension, oppression, building an atmosphere where I fear what is coming.
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    Malk, but what do you FEAR
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    I couldn't tell you.

    I can only say what scares me.
  • MoeDantesMoeDantes
    no longer cuddly, but still Edmond
    I honestly don't know, Vivi. Fear seems to be a nebulous thing and doing one specific set of tricks doesn't always do it, and things that normally don't scare or disturb me at all can do so in specific contexts.

    Like I don't normally find Zombies all that scary, but the first Resident Evil game had a few creepy moments. I normally don't find flesh-and-blood humans intimidating at all, but fuck do I try to avoid being seen in Metal Gear (no its not horror, but I always thought a stealth game would be the perfect vehicle for it... and Penumbra seems to agree with me).

    I do think horror could benefit from breaking a few rules here and there. Not everything needs to take place at night, or be in an isolated environment, and not every character needs to be an unlikable dumbass teenager. Moreover breaking rules makes things less predictable.
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    I agree with that Dantes.

    Especially more daytime horror.
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    Dumbass teenagers are only really a staple of slasher films. As for daytime horror there's Carnival of Souls, Dawn of The Dead, and Silent Hill 2 just off the top of my head.
  • MoeDantesMoeDantes
    no longer cuddly, but still Edmond
    Another thing horror films could do: come up with ghosts/demons/monsters who are actually scary. This is honestly one of the bigger failings of horror in my opinion--it's one of the reasons I wasn't particularly impressed with Eternal Darkness - Sanity's Requiem (yeah I know that's a video game and we're talking about movies, but... well... I haven't seen a movie that met my standards either). Don't throw something lame at us... come up with a creature that is seriously fucked up, who the very minute you look at it you're like "what the fuck is that thing?"

    Probably the closest thing American horror ever had to this is Alien, but that's been ruined by popcultural osmosis. And anyway, the creature itself wasn't as fucked up as some of Giger's other work.

    I mean granted sometimes something mundane can do the job (dinosaurs in Jurassic Park and Dino Crisis), but that's more tension and suspense than true horror.
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