That the obsession with paedos is so disproportionate

Gelzo

^^^Well there's that, and it's not especially hard to not have sex with the people you'd like to if rape would be your only shot. I'd be surprised to learn that just being a pedophile weakened your willpower and sense of morality if that was the case.

YuukiNao

^^ Your parallelism contains a mistake.  Your point is invalid.

Gelzo

I think his point is that is that curing pedophilia is going to be just as impossible as curing homosexuality.

Vivi

Yeah, that was my point.

YuukiNao

(I was missing the point for humor's sake, in case you didn't realize.)

MillerCross

I don't think you can cure pedophillia, but you you can get help to control the urges and redirect them.

Gelzo

^^The irony was apparent, but I missed the sarcasm.

Icalasari

My take on it:

You deserve respect if you can resist the urges and realize it is not normal (I'll allow for things like manga because at least nobody is hurt). But if you act out, you have lost all respect

I actually consider it like voreaphilia in a way. It would be quite sick if the person actually wanted to eat another human being and thought it was normal, but if they recognize it as abnormal and don't hurt anybody (hurting people includes partaking in material involving real victims)...

Mind you, I'm sure paedophilic urges are harder to resist than eating someone alive, since eating someone would require a bit more forethought

GLORIOUSLeader

Ooh! Ooh! Let me try!

People hate pedophiles because they want to fuck children.

What do I win?

MillerCross

You win a cookie.

Also, a trip to hell. One way.

Because being obvious it's a sin.

Central Avenue

You deserve respect if you can resist the urges and realize it is not normal (I'll allow for things like manga because at least nobody is hurt). But if you act out, you have lost all respect

Noimporta

I still find it disturbing that you wouldn't want to associate with someone because of something they can't help.

I'd like to make a distinction here. It's perfectly reasonable to not want to associate with people for traits they have no control over, no one is obligated. In fact, a gut reaction to such traits might be similarly not under their control. It's a different matter if one were to hold them in contempt for it.

Vivi

Is it bad that I don't want to be around mentally retarded people for long periods of time because I feel awkward?

MillerCross

As Noimporta said, it isn't bad that you feel uncomfortable around people with certain traits. It's when you actively hold them in contempt and blame them for possessing said traits where it gets wrong.

RedEyedAbyss

"If you are homosexual, the best thing to do is to go get psychological help to make you stop wanting to be homosexual."

A better comparison would be with anorexia.

MillerCross

That statement implies that sexuality is not (In at least some level) predertemined, and I don't buy that.

I do believe that it's not wholly predertemined, though. By which I mean, sexual preferences can be somewhat traceable.

Bastion

MillerCross

<3

DarkDecapodian

Pedophiles are to me what liberals are to Rick Perry, so I'm only stopping in to say YAY M!

Edit: Yes, I'm aware of the hypocrisy of demonizing pedophiles and gushing about a movie that humanises them in the same sentence. Bite me.